Spending, Debt-Ceiling Talks Continue as Pelosi's Deadline Nears -- 3rd Update
19 July 2019 - 11:56PM
Dow Jones News
By Andrew Duehren and Kate Davidson
WASHINGTON -- The White House and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
continued talks Friday over how to pay for a two-year agreement to
raise overall spending limits and at the same time raise the U.S.
government's borrowing limit, aiming to finalize the agreement
before the House leaves town next week.
Mrs. Pelosi earlier this past week said a deal needed to be
reached by Friday to give the House enough time to pass the bill
before the start of the House's August break, pressing negotiators
to clear the last hurdles toward an agreement. But aides and
lawmakers indicated there is flexibility to reach an agreement
after Friday and still pass the agreement in time.
The Trump administration is seeking roughly $150 billion in cuts
to offset any spending increases above limits set in a 2011 law. It
proposed to House negotiators a broader list of $574 billion in
potential cuts to various programs Thursday evening, according to a
senior administration official. The administration has also
suggested extending spending limits beyond their expiration after
fiscal year 2021 to reduce spending by $516 billion, according to
the official.
Those offers didn't appeal to Democrats, and a Democratic aide
close to the talks said the proposed cuts were "the White House's
starting point for negotiations on this aspect."
"They understand these levels are nonstarters for us. Talks will
continue," the Democratic aide said.
A person familiar with the matter said the White House views the
proposed offsets as a serious list and is waiting to see how Mrs.
Pelosi responds.
President Trump expressed some optimism Friday about the
negotiations.
"Hopefully we're in good shape on the debt ceiling," Mr. Trump
told reporters in the Oval Office, before saying of the limit: "We
can never play with it."
Democrats want equal increases in military and nonmilitary
funding next year, a concept known as parity. Administration
officials initially sought to freeze spending at current levels
next year, but Senate Republicans balked at that proposal, warning
it could harm the military. Some House Republicans, meanwhile, are
calling for any new spending to be offset by cuts elsewhere.
The debt limit is a statute that prohibits the U.S. from
borrowing money to close the gap between what the government spends
and what it collects. Without the ability to borrow, the government
could begin to miss payments on its obligations, such as Social
Security and veterans benefits or interest on the debt, triggering
a potential default.
Congress in recent years has been tying debt-limit increases to
other fiscal legislation, which gives members of both parties a
chance to extract from the other concessions on broader spending
levels. This time, there is more urgency because Treasury Secretary
Steven Mnuchin has warned the U.S. could hit its debt ceiling in
early September, before lawmakers return to Washington.
Proposed measures to offset the cost of the agreement is the
last major hurdle in the talks. Mr. Mnuchin said on Thursday that
both sides had agreed on raising spending levels above the 2011
caps and raising the debt ceiling for two years.
Without a new agreement to lift spending limits, automatic
spending cuts known as a sequester would reduce discretionary
spending by 10% early next year.
Mr. Mnuchin and Mrs. Pelosi spoke on Friday for about 15
minutes, according to an aide to the speaker, and the pair are
expected to continue talking.
The last spending agreement, which expires Oct. 1, raised
spending by almost $300 billion above limits set in the 2011 law
and included roughly $38 billion in cuts and small revenue
increases to partially offset its cost.
While negotiators appear close to reaching a deal, any final
agreement will need to earn the approval of Mr. Trump, whom
lawmakers in both parties caution may not sign on to the agreement
reached by members of his administration.
--Catherine Lucey contributed to this article.
Write to Andrew Duehren at andrew.duehren@wsj.com and Kate
Davidson at kate.davidson@wsj.com
(END) Dow Jones Newswires
July 19, 2019 18:41 ET (22:41 GMT)
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