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It seems most unlikely that any takeover will be attempted as there has been no notifiable stake building.Also, this is AIM and 75% of shareholders must agree.Neill has nearly 11%, and if the offer wasn’t recommended by him there is little or no chance it could succeed.It’s a non issue in my opinion.
Today's validation makes an attempted takeover bid this year more likely in my view - most likely a well-off global player with a wish to capture first-mover advantage for themselves in what amounts to a materials revolution. To overcome resistance from reluctant shareholders it would have to be a very generous offer. I hope it doesn't happen - or doesn't succeed.
Harrysol - I hope NR does NOT participate in any takeover or rescue or bailout of Haydale. Versarien has enough on its plate without such distraction. Too much baggage attached. If Haydale does possess any minor element that is of some use to Versarien, NR can perhaps snap it up in the event that Haydale goes into administration. But getting involved with Haydale as it currently is - no thanks! Sorting out Haydale would be a serious drag on Versarien's progress and would interrupt this company's declared focus, just at the time when prospects are coming to fruition.
johnveals - one can have faith in graphene , but not in Versarien's mgmt. One can hope for a takeover to release (some of) the s'holder value that mgmt seems utterly incapable of releasing. It really is as as simple as that.
V exciting tweet. Cos by extension after takeover - tesla too. Bosh ! :) glalth. Best ellis Neill Ricketts @neillricketts "The world of EV's is hotting up with the Maxwell acquisition, this is great news for EV pioneers looking for more range and new technology to further increase the difference with ICE. Maxwell is a very interesting company doing some great things and also working with @gnanomat" 4:53 pm · 4 Feb 2019 · hTtps://
Perhaps AD63, I guess we can only wait and see. However VRS is in a very healthy cash position right now. They've got the flexibility to make a purchase if it plays into their growth strategy, defend against a hostile takeover (highly unlikely though imo) or just wait out the shitty markets. Think we'd be well over £2.50 right now were it not for wider market / political backdrop.
Has anyone else noticed how Ricketts' happiness - as expressed in his tweets - is inversely proportional to the share price? Maybe he should try being f**king miserable for a change - not only would he know how increasing numbers of his shareholders feel, but it might even boost the sp! Simple fact: since I invested in September 2017 the largest order we've been told about has been a pathetic 1Kg, and there's still absolutely no sign of large revenues. Bring on the takeover - can't happen soon enough for me...
t/over = turnover NOT takeover. What are people expecting?
Still, every bit of good news that doesn't move the sp makes the company a more attractive takeover target. If Ricketts can't or won't unlock the value in VRS someone else can and will.
Ff2345Any talk of a take over is ludicrous, it’s not behaving like any share that’s ever been the subject of a takeover, and it would be voted down in any instance.However, at a standard takeover premium, the price would be approximately 135p at best.
Grabster - from most perspectives it’s unlikely AECOM would have to make an announcement of any deal with VRS as it’s unlikely to be material in terms of cash flow, size etc. Takeover or strategic stake purchase is about the only scenario I can think of. It would be unusual but by no means unheard of for a customer to buy or invest in a supplier but with nanotechnology it’s always possible if VRS look like having something genuinely groundbreaking. That’s enough unsubstantiated dreaming for now! AIMHO etc
Why is it that our supposedly-inferior competitors, selling supposedly-inferior products, are getting orders and investments, while we wait endlessly for Ricketts to deliver anything much of value? Our competitors' customers certainly seem to think what they're selling has value, despite endless statements to the contrary from Graham. Those 30+ collabs? All those people they're talking to in China? You know how much it's all worth? Nothing - not a cent until and unless it turns into contracts/orders/licenses. And so far of that there is not the first sign, apart from one MoU. What the F**K is taking so long? I'd have thought getting to MoU stage was the hard part, moving from there to an actual contract should be the quicker/easier bit. I'm only still here for a takeover - my opinion of Ricketts gets less every day (and before anyone says anything, I'm entirely sure the feeling's mutual)...
Absolutely 20pc, I am purely speculating but we can be sure that this deal is going to be massive. It’s a zone full of companies who are growing and therefore investing at a pace. I to would be very disappointed to see a hostile takeover approach but I think the U.K. goverment would have something to say about that given that they are looking for a return on investment to.
I don't disagree with your comment,just thought the wording in the 5/11/18 RNS was making some kind of point. Just to add a bit re my last post. I hope that the negotiations if possible will include clauses to stop Chinese partners from attempting a takeover of VRS for a period of time. As it currently stands the market cap of VRS is far to CHEAP to beat off a takeover attempt from one of the monsters we are currently dealing with. Although looking like that could be about to change shortly.
Club. I think the point Hattie was making was if you don't believe in the management team then you really should sell up now whilst still in profit. I may not the worlds expert in the stock market but if vrs don't deliver then the takeover will be p/share not £10 as you keep bleating. Not only do I believe in vrs and the team I love Neills outlook on life. Money is not everything so happy to hold and will support of required.
The chances of a hostile takeover are slim. Sometime back the law said the government could block a hostile bid for a UK company with sales of over £70m if the company had military or strategic benefits for the UK or words to that effect. You might have thought dropping it to a round figure of £10m would be a figure of choice. VRS had sales of just under £10m and the new law came out using £1m as the cut off. Coincidence ?
Club you are blocked so i can't see your posts and the drivel you write. Assuming that Neill and Chris agree it would take less than 20 PI's with substantial LONG TERM holdings i know to block any takeover. There are enough of us with patience who want to see the real long term value delivered and are happy to wait for many years for this to come to fruition as we believe in the management, the plan they have and their ability to deliver! Sorry you are not aligned - maybe time to leave ... or at least shut up?
roger - well we can't always get what we want. But if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get you get what you neeeeeed... What I need is for my VRS stake to be worth as much as possible as quickly as possible. If NR can deliver - and he hasn't yet, getting collabs is the easy bit, but he's so far been woeful at the hard bit of turning them into money - then great. If not, I would welcome a takeover. You are of course entitled to your view, as I am to mine. But I know for a fact I am far from alone: not *all* discussions take place on this BB, you know.
fuji - thx for the advice, but I'll be staying put. Either NR delivers or there's a takeover, one of those is nailed on. The science appears to be good, even if he seems incapable of delivering orders and revenues.
"NR tweet to say there is a Board Meeting this Friday - to sign off the Interims I wonder?" with any luck to approve the takeover approach.
adejuk - What's in your opinion, the impact on IQE of outsourced wafer market following Finisar takeover ?
grity - Why I woudn't invest in IQE ? Because its major income comes from Apple. If apple pulls the plug as it did for Imagination, the company is dead. As it is now, IQE growth is in stagnation mode. Then add people not buying new phones as they are either expensive or their old ones are doing the same job as the new ones. So stagnation will set in for a long while unless a takeover happens. I got out from 130p and if I want I would double my stake now but I wouldn't touch it because what is happening looks as a dead cat bounce. Then add how many shorters waiting around the corner - more than 10%. I am even worried it will go back to the 10 - 20p traditional levels in a year without decent growth.
Pshevlin - far from the funds accumulating, it seems that those who did hold have been dumping, continuously and in quantity.Ricketts not looking such a clever boy now, is he?Bring on the takeover.
divers - well it's largely academic: another 3 or 6 months of this chronic non-delivery (in terms of orders and revenues) and the takeover approaches will start rolling in. I for one will welcome them. Would I take £10-£20 on a buyout end of next year as opposed to £100 in 5 years time? Yes I would...
divers "for immediate returns please go to the casino, this is business" yeah? ands how long, exactly, are we supposed to wait? IAI is now over a year old, Unilever is around the year mark, McLaren haven't placed any more orders (that we know of), and despite c30 collabs the simple fact is that the largest order they've told us about in the past 2 years is 1Kg of nanene and NO graphink sales. So I'll ask again -exactly how long are we supposed to wait? How long are YOU prepared to wait to see significant orders and revenues? Because my patience is exhausted. I'm still here for a takeover approach, which surely can't be far away now - put a rocket up Rickett's ass...
Chillpill - it’s not me claiming that the IP is worth £2bn (c£13.50 a share).So you wanna explain how come the largest order for nanene they’ve had is for 1Kg, given the number of collabs they have and the size of the companies they’re talking to? 1Kg is an utterly pathetic amount in the context of Rickett’s shooting his mouth off. - 1Kg is a slap in the face for s’holders who have been waiting for something significant - in fact it’s a bloody insult.Roll on the takeover approaches, that’s what I say.
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