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[772] 24/7/2018 17:27

Club,
I don't understand why the China deals are affected by our market cap, surely the valuation they are quibbling over is the value of our IP and product. I don't think because we are around £200 market cap they will get it cheap. Happy to be corrected if I've got this wrong.

[anotherdrink] 24/7/2018 17:21

Can't we realistically expect a very positive RNS in September / October? Circa 18:30 into the podcast - The Graphene Council will be testing VRS materials throughout August so that VRS can be the first out there with certified graphene. What share price then - to be the first globally accredited?

[scrutable] 24/7/2018 17:19

superg;
not only mms. Add IG to the list of miscreants. Whilst you are on margin call, however modest, they will stop you out when it suits them. Spreadex, whom you don't seem to like, is much more benevolent. They will not demand margin top up as long as you have positive equity, though thanks to Brussels that may be about to change to 50%.

[superg1] 24/7/2018 17:09

tmoon

He's probably already read it on here.

[anley] 24/7/2018 17:06

The choice is VRS or NanoXplore to invest in.............the first section is what they are going to do and the second link tells you how they will do it.

NanoXplore Inc. (“NanoXplore” or “Corporation”) (TSX-V: GRA) announces the summary results of an independent Feasibility Study (the “FS”) for its upcoming 10,000 metric tons/year graphene production plant. All reported figures are in Canadian dollars and are on a 100% project basis unless otherwise stated.

hxxps://www.nationalgrapheneassociation.com/news/nanoxplore-announces-positive-feasibility-study-for-its-10000-metric-ton-year-graphene-production-plant/?utm_source=NGA+Newsletter+Members&utm_campaign=ab648060cf-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_01_24_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_8470edd927-ab648060cf-74260693

What sort of Graphene will it be and how long will the company last and they will be joining NR in Austin Texas in October along with a Ceylon graphene business..........its all go - boom and bust for some!!

[tmoon] 24/7/2018 16:58

Should somebody contact Neill to put him in touch with Luke Vardy as we all know Nanene improves the strength of carbon fibre.

[spike_1] 24/7/2018 16:56

Curtain Twitcher: yes very exciting, and capable of making components amazingly fast, and along with nanene, amazingly strong.

What's not to like ;0)

[ellissj] 24/7/2018 16:56

It's all about credibility, establishing your lead, and building confidence in the tech and brand. Lets not forget neill is the inaugral member of the graphene council, within the us national graphene association. The same council has invited vrs to apply to be the inaugral member of it's 'verified graphene producer programme.' Verifying that vrs gnps 'will meet their demanding standards.' Reasonable to assume 'demanding standards' are to iso standard. If accepted, vrs can probably claim to be publically 'the world lead.' I wonder if that might change the IP valuation etc? Vrs sitting pretty. Aimo. Glalth. Best ellis.

[grabster] 24/7/2018 16:38

Nice report, Curtain Twitcher. Apt that it should come from the north-west where so much transformational weaving technology emerged during the earlier industrial revolution of the 18th/19th century. James Hargreaves (the spinning jenny) and Richard Arkwright (the spinning frame, or water frame). (OK, the latter Derbyshire too, but Preston born). This new machiine sounds impressively transformational too.

[forestfred] 24/7/2018 16:31

Turbo charge as you put it like that!
So do I :-)on reflection
Ff

[turbocharge] 24/7/2018 16:28

I personally prefer the Club's £1bn magpie to forestfred's ducks....

[curtain twitcher] 24/7/2018 16:28

GOV.UK

News story Published 24 July 2018

UK creates world’s first 3D winder for complex carbon fibre parts
Knowledge Transfer Partnership develops carbon fibre winding machine to create complex and curved components for next-generation cars and aeroplanes.

Specialist machinery manufacturer Cygnet Texkimp and the University of Manchester have created a cutting-edge machine to support the next generation of fuel-efficient cars and aeroplanes.

The 3D Winder is the world’s first robotic winding machine capable of laying carbon fibre to make complex, lightweight composite parts for industry.

It comes out of a 2-year Knowledge Transfer Partnership (KTP).

Luke Vardy, Managing Director of Cygnet Texkimp, said:

The 3D Winder revolutionises what the composites industry can achieve with winding. It offers benefits in terms of cost and speed of manufacture as well as the strength, uniformity and repeatability of the finished product.

There is nothing else like it on the market at the moment. It is the first machine of its kind.

Turning research into reality
The 3D Winder builds on a prototype from the university’s School of Materials.

Through the KTP, the Northwich-based company brought in PhD graduate and composites academic, Dr Yan Liu, to develop this technology to work with more complex and curved shapes.

The resulting machine uses a technique called filament winding to create complex components such as fuel pipes and aircraft wing spars, which are the main structural members of the wing.

It does so cost-effectively, in high volumes and at high speeds. Trials have shown it to produce parts much quicker and to a higher integrity than traditional methods such as braiding and weaving. It has the potential to wind an aircraft wing spar in just a few minutes.

Reflecting on the KTP, Luke said:

Partnering with the university enabled us to carry out extensive research into advanced filament winding techniques.

It laid the groundwork for us to develop a new filament winding product stream more quickly than we otherwise would, to be first to market with an innovative new product.

Following the success of the partnership, Yan was offered a permanent role at Cygnet Texkimp’s R&D centre.

The future is bright
Since the project ended, the 3D Winder has gone on to be recognised by industry. In 2017 it won the Composites UK Trade Association’s innovation in composite manufacture award.

A production-scale version of the machine is now being used to carry out advanced trials with international part manufacturers, including one of the world’s leading automotive wheel manufacturers. The very lightweight quality of composite components make the 3D Winder ideal for the aerospace and automotive sectors.

Luke continued:

We’re on the threshold of a new generation of lightweight, fuel-efficient cars and aeroplanes. Demand for greater fuel efficiency and lower emissions is driving the need for better ways of producing and using intelligent materials such as carbon fibre composites.

Our long-term objective is to see this technology adopted as a conventional way to produce composite parts throughout the world."

[andymoore07] 24/7/2018 16:25

The snippet from the Podcast I liked was "Graphene is going to be everywhere"

[forestfred] 24/7/2018 16:20

Sandbag
Agreed as you say the recent new team members could have gone anywhere!!! they are experts in their field .

Says a lot that they joined Vrs they must see a good future ahead of them too.

What ever Vrs now have them onboard !!

Both parties must be happy for mutual benefit !!
Which bodes well for us .
Watch this space is my view .

Yes the ducks are lining up nicely
Ff

[club sandwich] 24/7/2018 16:05

Magpie - £1bn = c680p I believe

[melf] 24/7/2018 15:40

The Spain trip is interesting. It must have been an important meeting for him fly to off the day before the prelims were out. Then I couldn't help notice that he made reference to the trip when he did the podcast yesterday.....almost as if he was itching to talk about it but knew he couldn't.....the plot thickens.

[melf] 24/7/2018 15:40

Rinse and repeat...:-#)

[magpie61] 24/7/2018 15:36

TaSo maybe a 5 magpie stage then

[sandbag] 24/7/2018 15:34

"Neill is a smart chap and he's been playing a blinder so far"

He certainly is smart and he's assembling a team which can only be seen as absolutely outstanding. Since the attachment of Matt from HMG there have been three outstanding additions to the team two of which are QA orientated. There must be an awful lot of work to justify two such specialists. The three new employees are of such high technical value that they could have gone anywhere they wanted but chose to join VRS. How can you not be both excited and relaxed about an investment here?

[pshevlin] 24/7/2018 15:34

5x this magpie.

[magpie61] 24/7/2018 15:31

So what is share price for £1 billion value?

[spike_1] 24/7/2018 15:31

Well that'll teach me, Singer now off the bid and back on the offer at 128 ho hum.

[spike_1] 24/7/2018 15:29

Just to state the blinding obvious: Singer are now the highest on the Bid (at 125), which strongly suggests to me they have run out of stock (certainly for today at any rate).

Best wishes - Spike

[a_game] 24/7/2018 15:24

all I will say is that I suspect the re-rate to £1Bn will be faster than some people think - Neill is a smart chap and he's been playing a blinder so far