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Versarien LSE:VRS London Ordinary Share GB00B8YZTJ80 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.50p +0.40% 124.50p 385,138 14:49:28
Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price
122.00p 127.00p 124.50p 122.50p 122.50p
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Industrial Engineering 9.02 -1.56 -1.00 191.3

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2019-01-18 17:07:46124.505,0006,225.00O
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2019-01-18 16:27:42124.401,0001,244.00O
2019-01-18 16:21:01125.752,4903,131.18O
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18/1/2019
08:20
Versarien Daily Update: Versarien is listed in the Industrial Engineering sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker VRS. The last closing price for Versarien was 124p.
Versarien has a 4 week average price of 118p and a 12 week average price of 103p.
The 1 year high share price is 192.50p while the 1 year low share price is currently 58.50p.
There are currently 153,624,320 shares in issue and the average daily traded volume is 285,807 shares. The market capitalisation of Versarien is £191,262,278.40.
01/1/2019
12:39
rogerbridge: I am expecting my Graphene book to arrive tomorrow and I am looking forward to reading it. That is if I can drag my gaze away from the VRS share price on ADVFN. As Fest would say “Get that stock market open” and “Here comes one hundred and eighty.”
10/12/2018
16:32
grabster: Regardless of what the VRS share price does this week, I am confident of an imminent whooosh, taking this back above 180p within 6-8 weeks ;-)
05/12/2018
09:01
ridicule: Lovat you make some good points re the VRS share price. Setting aside Club’s ludicrous outbursts, I think the context that we should be looking at is - The VRS share price was just 15p 14 short months ago! Regulars on this Board are well acquainted with the amazing building blocks NR has delivered to move the share price to this point. Just think where the share price is likely to be in another 14 short months, then think, apart from one other company in my case, where else you would put your money to match such prospective returns? I am content to remain invested here at a seven figure level, primarily because of NR and the DIT secondees, regardless of how big the gap between the enterprise and fundamental valuation becomes. This is because events dear friends, will make us all rich, possibly beyond our wildest dreams. Any wobble when the results come out tomorrow, if there is one, should be treated as noise.
30/11/2018
12:34
festario: VRS share price might get caned on Interim results day as well.I hope not obviously, and I won't be able to benefit from it, but it happened last time.
28/11/2018
08:16
tini5: FGR news great for mining industry I guess but it's hardly moved their share price much. +1 cent? Not exactly shaking the earth there but well done. hTTps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNBEldrSaV0 VRS share price will arch way up from where it is now when the karma train departs from the station. The dots are out there, all you have to do is join them.
21/11/2018
09:34
loglorry1: Quite a lot of chat here about the weakness in tech stocks in the US and how that reflects on the VRS share price. It's worth remembering the dangers of holding story stocks with little revenue when quality firms are getting slammed on Wall Street. The price in VRS is illusory if a number of people want to cash in at the same time. Not so much an issue with APPL but a highly illiquid share like VRS is a different matter. All of Neil’s huffing and puffing won’t help anyone if they want or need to sell and there are no bids. You'll all just accuse me of scaremongering but any of us who have been around the block a bit know if things get ugly bids in these small caps can just evaporate and when you have forced sellers who have geared up using spread bets the price can get hammered. If you are taking a long term view of years and don't care about prices on a daily basis then you have nothing to worry about. Most of the people who post here though do so multiple times a day so they probably are interested in the short term despite all claiming otherwise. It's also worth noting that a lot of people seem to have followed others into shares like IQE. This obviously compounds the issue.
16/11/2018
13:42
ridicule: Philbstar your post 48561. I agree with you. I made a similar point last January that attracted some opprobrium from some. At that time, I advocated using another share with high growth prospects to cantilever between the two investments. Top slice a bit from the share that had got ahead of itself and lodge the proceeds into the one that was lagging. And vice Versa. I have been able to increase my holdings in both investments using this technique while remaining committed to both of them and certainly never using adverse propaganda against either investment. This is a far cry from the impact of shorters who attack the target share quite ruthlessly and have a much greater adverse impact than the normal market adjustment one would experience by the fundamental/ enterprise value gap getting ahead of itself. The secondment of 2 DIT folk was a game changer for VRS and should have allowed a much bigger value gap. My view remains that, without the shorters, the VRS share price would be around 190 - 200p given the outstanding enterprise value that VRS represents.
16/11/2018
10:46
ridicule: The two components that drive a share price have been, and always will be, fundamental trading metrics- p/e, eps, mkt cap etc and the second element which is the enterprise value - how exciting are the trading prospects? What are the unique market advantages of the Company in question? How impressive are the management team? How sound is their strategy? What external leverage is available? In the case of VRS, the last of these enterprise drivers is massive - stakeholder relationships with UOM and Cambridge; the various Catapults VRS are linked to; the size, quality and multiple market verticals covered by their collaborations; the HMG senior secondees; China; the special position VRS and NR in particular have secured in the USA ahead of US companies; an exciting acquisition strategy culminating in Gnanomat; EU funding access post-Brexit; strong R&D programmes with access to £1bn worth of research assets. Without doubt this is the greatest enterprise value company that I have ever come across in my 30 years of investing. So, why is the share price at 117p and not 190-200p? In a word the shorters! Shorters have software programmes that automatically flag up shares that have excessive upward share price movements. VRS clearly fell into this category between Nov 17 and Jan 18 and we have come under a sustained shorting attack as a consequence. Not because they have any genuine concerns over VRS per se, but because VRS emerged as a statistic. The shorting strategy is highly repeatable. Borrow as much stock as possible and sell it in the market. Then highlight the allegedly enormous gap between fundamental trading metrics and the current share price. Then the shorters progressively attack the basis that the enterprise value is predicated on, play mind games with nervous PIs and cause enough negative share price movement to frighten the horses. Once some PIs are underwater because they bought at what has become the top, but would not have been had the shorting attack not occurred, the investment physcology changes and a nervousness to avoid buying at a peak sets in. This gives the shorters much more power to move the share price than their shareholding would otherwise have justified. NR has clearly clocked this situation, as evidenced by his Twitter campaign; his intervention over who could participate in the Primary Bid placing and his release of yesterday’s RNS. We PIs, if we fully agree and understand the foregoing, can also do our bit. We can avoid the temptation to sell or trade. We could write to our MPs asking why shorting is not illegal since it damages economic growth within SMEs in particular and the economy more generally and It causes losses among nervous investors. We can and will continue with the excellent research that makes the shorters look ridiculous on this thread and we are now getting ever closer to the day when they get taken out by the really big RNS that will close the gap between fundamentals and enterprise values at a stroke. I would like my toast to be brown and well done please!
14/11/2018
17:10
vrs1: Good piece of research sandbag. The foundations are being laid for a great British company. The collaborations are part of the deal making process of this new technology. Nanene is going to play a massive role in all of this. Three far East recognise this and so do Versarien. All of what I have read to date from the likes of smog lorry and dottycarbery is taken out of context, grossly exaggerated or simply untrue. They are not even share holders and so one wonders if they are paid assassin's. Why are they here if not to drive down the VRS share price. I imagine that when the first order comes, it will be rapidly proceeded by many more and then the collaborations will be seen to be amazing deals. Roll on collaborations - we can't have orders without them. This is a new technology. I don't need to keep reading the same insane tripe from the same morons. Your not shareholders so go away. Your not welcome. Your wealth assassin's. The collaborations are all on track. They will pay off. I'll make millions from this.
14/11/2018
11:37
serratia: A journey. Way back in time I came across Graphene. As I'm technically trained I looked into it and understood where this could lead to and looked further. At the time there were a few quoted companies so which one (s) to follow? I looked at two aspects product performance and management quality. Performance - I could see that in theory the layer number would be important and looked at the companies offerings. At that time XG were making the headlines but were a private company. I thought Haydale might be on to something re dispersion. DCTA/AGM/GRPH /XG didn't seem from theory to have suitable material for composites which looked the most promising area at the time. Management - Next up a look at what the CEO's pay themselves. One stood out - VRS salaries were under half those taken by competitor companies with DCTA/XG taking very high incomes. I met the CEO/FD's and was very impressed. Not only very genuine guys but very astute and no BS. I've run a few companies and it's no exception to say they're the highest quality senior guys I've met over many years. Also extremely careful with shareholders money which is not always the case with start up companies. So VRS stood out with HAYD one to watch. I bought in to VRS. Roll on to today - GRPH looks to have gone, AGM don't seem to be getting anywhere. DCTA has had difficulties in composites and doesn't seem to be getting too far with their offering, still going though. XG really on the edge. It looks like they believed their own optimistic views and spent a lot of money before their products were proven in the market place. Those costs are hurting them now and unless they can get volume through their plant they're in big trouble. Lot's of talk about the future but their finances look decidedly unhealthy. Haydale were unlucky they solved a problem that didn't need solving for the most part and have fallen away. Technical understanding moved on and it became clear that additional properties in Graphene's are needed to obtain the best performance and as my understanding increased with various scientific publications it became clearer that Nanene kept hitting the optimum targets. On top of that new applications came to light who'd have thought Graphene could revolutionise concrete? Management have shown the qualities I spotted in the early meetings. Their energy and strategic thinking has been added to the early observations. Performance - Since those early days VRS share price has risen 240%, AGM has fallen 50%, DCTA fallen 60%, Hayd 88% and GPRH gone. In those early days VRS was valued at 3 to 4 times less than AGM/DCTA now it's 8 * or more higher than its peer group. Was I lucky to pick VRS ? Yes and no. Lucky to have come across great management in the early days, lucky to have the knowledge to understand Graphene before the market caught on. Not lucky in my investment as everything pointed to the kind of performance that has happened since, it has performed as expected. On to the future - Will someone else come up with a competitive product ? Possibly in time. Nothing major out there yet. In the meantime VRS are racing ahead in the 'land grab'. The worlds major companies and countries are knocking on their doors. If/when competition arises VRS will be way ahead. ( What good is a car as good as the Mercedes in F1 if they're starting 10 laps behind ?). IF someone comes up with a competitive product Graphene prices will fall. The starting material is cheap so it's down to the process of manufacture. We saw Carbon nanotube prices fall as numerous people can make a suitable product so far this hasn't happened with Nanene. It could, but the 'land grab' is accelerating Nanene is becoming embedded in companies and it would take a fair time for anyone to catch up. (There are competitor products to Dyson but Dyson is so well established the competition are finding it hard to challenge them). Another part of VRS's strategy seems to be to move down stream from just producing Graphene to capture more of the value stream. This will enable them to maintain their position. (Dyson came up with a new way to suck air but didn't stop there they created the products that used their invention). VRS are now worth 8* their peer group when I first noticed them and continue to develop at a rapid pace so I can see the gap getting much larger. Do I trust the management to deliver - absolutely.
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