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[club sandwich] 23/7/2018 13:28

DaveMac - there are none so blind as those that will not see. Filtered.

[club sandwich] 23/7/2018 13:27

Plus of course they're now talking to 24 interested parties, not one.

I want China to come through as much as anyone else - but if it takes another 6 or even 12 months to arrive then so be it. I'd rather wait longer for a better deal. Imagine - just for arguments' sake - if in say 12 months the deal is announced: 12 Chinese partners (just for argument's sake) producing a total of say 1000T of nanene a year to start, with that amount ramping to say 10,000T a year over 5 years. That will be worth waiting for, no? Especially if they can get a good price of say 50p/g for the nanene...

The above of course is just my speculation, and might bear no relation to the actual deal announced. But if it happens at all I have confidence in the team that it will be a good one...

[jointer13] 23/7/2018 13:26

what a team...very reassuring.

"iso accreditation which we are absolutely covered despite what anyone intimates"

[davemac3] 23/7/2018 13:24

I don't do Twitter but these Podcasts look like PR exercises, probably paid for by VRS and questions supplied by VRS, does anybody know?

[club sandwich] 23/7/2018 13:21

DaveMac - I don't know, why don't you tweet Justin and ask him - and CC Neill?

As to how long the China deal will take - Neill *has* answered that many times: it takes as long as it takes to get the right deal in terms of valuation, IP protection etc...

[zagrosfold] 23/7/2018 13:20

Yes, the podcast leaves you in no doubt you're backing the right horse

[davemac3] 23/7/2018 13:18

why didn't he ask him what the 3T is for and how long the Chinese deals will take?

[davemac3] 23/7/2018 13:06

do VRS pay for these podcasts?

[battery] 23/7/2018 13:00

Podcast is out..

[luckyorange] 23/7/2018 12:59

Keep backing them timbo, you are doing the right thing lol.

[spike_1] 23/7/2018 12:57

timbo I suggest you ask Neill, he is very approachable.

[grabster] 23/7/2018 12:51

I know ;-)

But you must surely admit that Haydale are in a bit of a pickle. Hitting out at VRS will not resolve that.

[timbo003] 23/7/2018 12:49

>>>Grabster, I'm just reciprocating

[timbo003] 23/7/2018 12:44

Spike

Irrespective of the vintage of the video, MK is talking about data that shows that functionalisation using Haydale's method (not some other plasma method), produces meaningful improvements in the strength of composites, it does matter how old the video is, it still remains a fact.

It is also it is worth remembering that Versarien's Nanene is almost certainly functionalised to some degree (just look at the high level of impurities in the elemental analysis), presumably this occurs during the grinding process. The nanene functionalisation no doubt accounts for its ability to disperse, but I wonder how reproducible the level and type of functionalisation really is ?

[grabster] 23/7/2018 12:44

Timbo you clearly consider HAYD a better investment. - and have done so all the way down from 2 quid to 50p, in which time VRS has climbed more than six-fold. Good luck. The rest of the market does not seem to share your confidence.

[occultusverum1] 23/7/2018 12:44

From the patent application response: "Given the lack of technical information, it would require an unreasonable amount of experimentation to carry out the invention across the whole scope of the claim, thus imposing a severe and undue burden..."
and
"failing to define any process feature, like e.g. reaction conditions, reaction times, as well as, amounts of starting materials and their ratios"
Therefore, I'm not sure that anyone is going to be able to recreate Nanene from the information held within the patent application

[spike_1] 23/7/2018 12:41

timbo, that was Martin (working then for Haydale) exactly 4 years ago!
He's moved on in that time, but Haydale hasn't.

Best wishes - Mike

[1retirement] 23/7/2018 12:40

Hi Tom AKA Timboo. Things must be getting desperate if Loglorry et al are getting you to chip in with the misinformation from way out there in Greece? That spreadbet deadline really is creating the perfect storm :-)

[timbo003] 23/7/2018 12:30

I'm only here to return the favour after some provocative comments on the Haydale thread......

Virtually all the process details for Nanene's manufacture contained within PCT patent application WO2016063036 were deemed invalid in the PCT international research report and the patent application has subsequently been withdrawn in Europe (and will probably be withdrawn elsewhere)

I suspect the competition (especially in China and India) are likely to find the information contained within WO2016036 very useful should they wish to replicate the Nanene process

[timbo003] 23/7/2018 12:27

It would seem that Versarien's new hire Martin Kemp strongly disagrees with Superg and his BS regarding the pros and cons of Graphene functionalisation



Which one of the two do you believe?

[superg1] 23/7/2018 12:13

Just picking up on the theme. BTW my Mrs loves this clip before anyone starts she knows who the boss is and it isn't me.