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Versarien Plc LSE:VRS London Ordinary Share GB00B8YZTJ80 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -0.825 -2.45% 32.90 32.35 33.45 33.80 32.00 33.80 977,160 16:35:09
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Industrial Engineering 8.3 -4.7 -2.7 - 56

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21/10/2020
20:36
I don't know how some people have the time for more than one profile as it becomes very time consuming 23kg can you put that into cubic metres please as that's a fair whack I don't need them to update me on each sale as I believe we have set the frameworks up for repeat stuff that will be reported when appropriate Only thing is those with multiple "personalities" will flip when news arrives and start posting under different profiles. We know it's gonna happen I know jooothing
mavfav
21/10/2020
19:13
Phil, have you honestly created 71 different avatars just so you can troll this thread? Wow that is dedication to the cause... to be fair you are probably better off posting in "Andys" troll echo chamber next door. Probably a bit more up your street ;-)
tim3416
21/10/2020
18:46
RTG despite endless posts from LTH's onthis board there is absolutely no concrete evidence that there has been any demand / orders / sales from VRS graphene. I can only recall seeing a 23 Kg order in the past and that was some time ago.That is insufficient to get an excess baggage charge a BA flight. I apologise if that is not the latest on sales and I am sure you will correct me. It is also worth noting that borrowing money from a government that has itself overspent to the time of £36 billion last month alone will bring significant unwanted scrutiny if that trend continues.
philbyk71
21/10/2020
18:09
No input from the gibbering gerbil over on the other thread today?
26taotao
21/10/2020
17:26
State EntrepreneurialismSome investment stands out. I'm an HS2 fan. But our £5million is a throwback to days when state spending was to be frowned upon - young George. And it might be the largest , in fact it is, The Suez Canal was £6.35 million.That was ballsy.It's such a small amount. £5m But let's hope it triggers the switch.Orders not crutches.
alchemy
21/10/2020
17:19
I think to break it down into isolated components is a mistake as well as for example on an aircraft seat there will be multiple components to improve strength, lightweight, provide antibacterial and antiviral material as well potential heat dissipation.If you are going to make changes to kickstart the industry then do it properly. I know nooothing
mavfav
21/10/2020
16:44
Neill was carrying a miniature seat back around with him to shareholder pub meetings about 2 yrs ago so it has been around a while and probably would have come out this year apart from covid
luckykids
21/10/2020
16:40
forestfred21 Oct '20 - 15:13 - 1130 of 1132 I totally agree with you, graphene HAS a huge part to play in future innovative products, I think everyone here will agree with that statement. I think the problem is that the products are currently being developed and tested and this takes a long time, so there seems to be minimal demand currently. In due course that will change, and demand will increase as products hit the market. The problem is VRS are sitting here waiting for orders for their product, with some expensive mouths to feed in the meantime. In athletic terms, they may have peaked too early. The one major failing of British companies is commercialisation, and it remains to be seen whether VRS can achieve what they have set out to achieve, or whether other companies will be able to step into a competitive market for graphene.
andy
21/10/2020
16:28
Tt Wow !! Thank you thats very positive indeed that you like me feel graphene has a massive future ! It certainly seems very likely . I’m of the belief the global companies Uk government DTI people chose very wisely who they should collaborate with and,the reasons why they chose Versarien were verified like the graphene they now produce. Excited to see how those collaborations are Progressing as well as new sectors development Massive market potentially . Dyor Ff
forestfred
21/10/2020
16:25
S stands Seat S stands for Seat but my understanding is that this actually relates to graphene enhancements to aero industry specifically carbon fibre composites. The seat could be a quick win here as requires less testing but the technology of graphene films are likely to also be part of this element. Based on the annual report and mapping each (known) project mentioned under the Gscale programme, I would hazard a guess that the collaboration titled “Further collaboration with Chinese Aerospace Company” sits in S. This collaboration was set up to investigate graphene film materials and sensors in aerospace industry. This would result in stronger, lighter more conductive prepreg materials ideal for plane parts, which would also include seats. For a bit of detail on the science behind this: “One type of composite material commonly used in the aerospace industry is carbon fiber reinforced plastic (“CFRP”). CFRP generally comprises one or more composite layers or plies laminated together to form a sheet and is generally a non-conductive polymer such as an epoxy resin. For aerospace applications, an aerospace grade resin is used as the matrix material. The reinforcement material provides structural strength to the matrix material and the CFRP, and generally consists of strands of carbon fibre or carbon filaments, which are electrically conductive. It is desirable to increase the amount of carbon in CFRP to further improve mechanical and/or electrical properties of composite structures without increasing weight or disturbing other desirable properties. But, simply increasing the amount of carbon fiber reinforcement material in CFRP does not meet this goal and is not cost efficient. Other forms of carbon, such as graphene, which has exceptional mechanical strength and thermal conductivity, would have beneficial effects in composite structures.” (End of science bit) In last year’s annual report it was mentioned that fuel efficiency of aircraft could be improved through lighter graphene enhanced composite wings. I thought it was odd at the time to mention wings so perhaps this is included in the S in Gscale along with the seat. There is no mention of the seat in the annual report this year, however we were told via RNS last year that Versarien received an order for graphene nano platelets for use in fire retardant aircraft interior parts for a major global airline. We never established what the parts were but they were widely speculated to be seat backs. From previous podcasts and research there have been a number of companies producing light weight seats made from composite materials for the aero industry that have been loosely connected to Versarien. HolidayFunds8 recently mentioned Airtek along with rationale why this may be covered by NDA and therefore omission from the list of projects. There has also been Cecence and Argo mentioned in the past. We know there are companies working with graphene to make light weight seats, we know there is an appetite from the carriers to reduce costs via light weighting. This drives demand. There will be a big push this decade for all the Airlines to become more eco-friendly and mitigate environmental damage such as carbon emissions, noise and air quality. This has started already and graphene will play a pivotal role. However, for Graphene to be used in aircrafts, it would need to be of the highest quality, verified and pass the stringent safety tests. Versarien have proven all of these. The final part to prove is scalability to commercial quantities, which Versarien are doing aided by the government loan. Whilst revolutionising the commercial aerospace industry with graphene wings and films etc might still be some way off due to complexity and safety, I expect the seat to move far quicker and hence its prominence in GSCALE For seat to get is own letter in GSCALE either means it’s a very important first mover product or is helped the acronym. I suspect it’s a bit of both but in doing so doesn’t make the connection to the graphene enhanced carbon fibre obvious nor the collaboration with a Chinese state run giant which some may miss.
rogerthegrouch
21/10/2020
15:59
"Perhaps Primatel have gone for the best?" Hope so!
sandbag
21/10/2020
15:56
Message posted on the 'PPE Defends' Facebook page an hour ago, next to an image of Versarien's mask: "Tomorrow I be will discussing the use of facemasks and facecoverings on BBC radio and Sky radio to try and and cut through the confusion and clutter on this topic." (And mentioning Versarien or Nanene?) hTTps://www.facebook.com/PPE-Defends-102865858182512/
grabster
21/10/2020
15:55
At last Graphene hits a market place where it will be noticed. Man cannot truly enjoy freedom without:https://dlmag.com/omega-pants-by-graphene-x-is-most-rugged-and-waterproof-pair-out-there/
fireball xl5
21/10/2020
15:48
Tata Graphene Centrehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b1V5qA2d77A&noapp=1
fireball xl5
21/10/2020
15:45
sandbag - beg to differ, but Times advert does not quote the manufacturer. Agree that their website description does show IDEATIs. Perhaps Primatel have gone for the best?
ewads
21/10/2020
15:45
FF - I think that the potential for graphene remains massive but no longer (if it ever was) for VRS. The credibility of VRS is shot to pieces.
terry topper
21/10/2020
15:36
ewads. The Primatel ad specifically says that the masks are planaTECH & IDEATIs. www.primatel.co.uk/graphene-enhanced-face-mask-washable-pack-of-3 "planarTECH & IDEATI’s 2AM graphene-enhanced face mask" edit. Sorry I should have said Primatel web site not their ad.
sandbag
21/10/2020
15:33
Based on no further detail (I think?) is it reasonable to assume the following:1) the capacity increase is for 2-DTech, ie: GNP's2) it's at Cheltenham. 3) location relative to the final customer is of secondary importance given the likelihood that most of the product will be combined prior to supply, eg: Polygrene. Are we aware of capacity increase at Cambridge at this stage?
chumbo1
21/10/2020
15:21
G stands for Graphene The G relates to the scale up of graphene production to commercial quantities to meet present and future demand. The loan greatly facilitates the scale up activities which presumably involves the procurement and management of new machinery etc. The SCALE projects will funnel the demand via the customers and collaborators. The biggest blocker to graphene commercialisation has historically been the ability to produce high quality graphene in commercial quantities. We are told testing always generates positive results or exceptional results with the customers so the missing piece to the puzzle to unlock and unleash the full potential of graphene is the ability to scale up. And this is exactly what Versarien are doing with the government’s backing. In versarien's case, this is the scale up of the different processes to produce a variety of graphenes and I have little doubt that they will achieve this, after all, Versarien has a proven track record of scaling up. It was only a few years ago that we were talking about grams, but now we talk in tonnes. How long will all this take? The scale up will no doubt be incremental and running at next target capacity will presumably take the duration of the GSCALE project ie a couple of years. However, its important to note this is incremental and the initial scale up will provide the graphene for the faster moving projects. I think Neill answered the time scale question well in a recent podcast… "I know a lot of people got confused at that the project takes 2 years and does that mean is going to be 2 years before we get products; well that’s not the case – each one of these projects is split down into projects below that some of them are easily achievable and we hope to be able to deliver results very quickly”
rogerthegrouch
21/10/2020
15:19
Indeed, I've seen a few graphene masks lately. I note that they seem to use a similar pattern on the cloth to the VRS one. That one above is not marketed as N95 compliant.
twatcher
21/10/2020
15:16
Not so sure sandbag. Differences noted in the advert (in yesterday's Times - page 52) mentions adjustable ear straps,CE marked, antibacterial 99.94% . However they did not say that their masks were anti viral, wheras VRS's are.. Both masks are probably very similar but not identical. Anyway looks like graphene enhanced masks getting some traction now
ewads
21/10/2020
15:13
Have been invested for many years now . My view is that it will Happen if and when it’s meant to ,from what I am told stock market investments are normally a minimum of 5 years plus . The Potential for graphene and Vrs is no less massive than its ever been. More news globally everyday on this material . Let’s see what pans out no one knows what the future will bring with anything . From what I can see globally on news about graphene and commercial Products . A lot of very clever people and clever global companies ,universities are trying to utilise this wonder material into everyday uses . why is that I wonder . A lot of less clever people say it’s not so wonderful . I’m Going with the scientists and global companies on this one . They seem to see something special Worth trying to develop further . Why do they keep trying , it seems progress is being made but not as quick as many would like . No smoke with out fire as they say so as perhaps we are just simmering away . Glalth Ff
forestfred
21/10/2020
15:06
Unfortunately not VRS masks. hxxps://www.primatel.co.uk/graphene-enhanced-face-mask-washable-pack-of-3 https://www.graphene-info.com/planartech-and-ideati-launch-graphene-enhanced-antibacterial-face-masks
sandbag
21/10/2020
15:00
Cheek - Primatel, Kingston, Surrey - e-mail address Primatel.co.uk
ewads
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