Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Versarien LSE:VRS London Ordinary Share GB00B8YZTJ80 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 19.75p 19.00p 20.50p 19.75p 19.75p 19.75p 35,430 07:30:27
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Industrial Engineering 5.9 -2.2 -1.9 - 25.94

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
26/7/2017
18:53
Hopefully the company hasn't gone into a coma like the mkt in VRS shares lol
john henry
26/7/2017
15:16
Just spotted this re Cambridge graphene and the European space agency. hxxps://www.graphene.cam.ac.uk/news/zero-gravity-graphene-for-space-applications
superg1
26/7/2017
14:51
I recall a new poster saying nobody wanted SXX at 20p but were then falling over themselves to buy at 30p plus. Typical behaviour imo. EG I knew Nanene was going to launch (found the website) but didn't expect much of that as it was an existing known product. Clearly not as the share price took a hike and new investors arrived. So on that basis perhaps the same will happen when the ink gets a name and fully launches. Potential big news that isn't really news to followers. Then if one or more of the very large companies sign up on something what then? They are the ones clamouring to see if graphene has a fix/enhancement for their issues NOT VRS trying to nag them into looking graphene. Many of those big companies have been looking for years indeed one I can't mention has avery dim view of a non uk graphene company. That's all about graphene hype v graphene that works. So some now know graphene that works but they will want to know if it works for the fix they want. Then they want to know if the cost matrix on volume needed equates to viability on costs. If it works and the price works then the end result could be very interesting. If anyone can make it work VRS can due to the level of expertise in their vertical of Cambridge the UOM and the NGI. That's the expertise the big names will want. Straight answers from the top of the chain, VRS is a supplier with direct links to the top.
superg1
26/7/2017
14:11
And you know why. I do read other threads and some are beyond bonkers on the hype. I struggle to understand the gullibility of some. I out it down to mad gambling addicts with a screw or two loose. We'll get updates here from time to time and that's about as much as I can say here. I have been expecting negative news on one graphene share (no two actually), one if which I don't mention but may do if I can gather verifiable info. I'm sure the negative has taken place but I can't find a public reference to it just.
superg1
26/7/2017
14:01
I knew you'd say exactly that.
festario
26/7/2017
13:55
Better that way Fest reacting to developments than chasing potential. That's the way the VRS team like it. If it was a hot hype share then the looney lot would be here.
superg1
26/7/2017
12:51
Sleepy share this is, yawn.
festario
26/7/2017
11:20
lucky It's because of those very same statements that I thought it best to just highlight one or two things about the holding company Zenyatta to put things in context. Just because Zenyatta blow a few publicity notes on a euphonium it doesn't mean that they have a colliery brass band to back it if you get my drift. So if some people want to either join or put money into Zenyatta's alleged 'brass band', good luck to them. Personally I think the euphonium makes exactly the kind of sound that I would make to ZEN-tech if they knocked on my door for any 'brass'!
vasilis
26/7/2017
10:53
Thanks Vas, the reason I posted it was this 'The UK is a centre for graphene research, innovation and funding and consequently this attracts many global graphene industry specialists. By locating in UK, ZEN-tech will be able to tap into the extensive resources available there and will be on the leading edge of the developments in this new and fast growing materials sector.' The first sentence is interesting considering they could have chosen other countries, the second sentence highlights their intention of going after the available funding... grrrrr! About time VRS was given a slice of the pie considering how advanced they are compared to others!
luckyorange
26/7/2017
09:58
Vas As we can see a number of graphite companies are trying to create an investor boost by talking graphene. That follows on from a few years ago when the large flake and other higher grades for batteries hype that came. Stratmin were one on the AIM. None took off or got interest that I know if and now many are trying the graphene hype. Graphite mines offline are numerous. The one Lucky ID'd the other day looks like a complete fraud as is the news about a deal. That one was so poor it's obvious to anyone that understands graphene but many on the ASX will fall for that one and get done over.
superg1
26/7/2017
09:51
Astral My guide for scale up was one shift and obviously they could easily do two if the need which would double my range. EG AGM's claims are based on 24/7. It also helps to know the cost of the kit v returns which if you know it through research is very good. Pure estimate here just on the intial process and assuming similar scale enhancement on bigger machines as in the proposed step up. For £2m on the shearing process I'd estimate the range would be 7-14 tonnes. From the example I am aware of cost per unit returns a higher mutliple of production v the increased price. On the ink Prof Ferrari said for a modest investment they could produce 100 tonnes (100,000 litres). We know that process has yields of 100%. Some others have already wasted £10 mill or more in cash with no upgrades. With that sort of cash VRS could transform the graphene industry. Half that would do I suspect.
superg1
26/7/2017
09:31
lucky 1 Zenyatta Ventures was founded to exploit a naturally occurring graphite deposit in Albany, Canada on First Nation land - http://www.zenyatta.ca/article/our-company-1389.asp If you look at the Board under the Corporate heading you can see the industry experience is in mining. 2 It was only last month that Zenyatta announced exfoliation of graphite to GO but at the laboratory level, with hopes it could be scaled up - http://www.zenyatta.ca/article/press-release-4470.asp Note the cautionary statement :- 'CAUTIONARY STATEMENT: This analysis does not represent a statistically large sample size and the OCE grant is for going from small scale lab equipment to a larger scale equipment. Furthermore, these positive results do not mean that Zenyatta can extract and process Albany graphite for graphite applications on an economic basis. Without a formal independent feasibility study, there is no assurance that the operation will be economic.' So the announcement of the formation of the subsidiary ZEN-tech should be assessed in my view bearing in mind both what Zenyatta has achieved to date and what experience and resources it actually has - or hopes to attract - to carry out future objectives against current established businesses in the graphene sphere.
vasilis
25/7/2017
23:47
'ZEN-tech, a private incorporated company, will have access to the high-purity graphite from Zenyatta Ventures for graphene and graphene related opportunities. There is a high level of interest, especially in Europe, from sophisticated technology or cleantech entities, particularly related to a need for access to a unique raw material graphite source that converts to high-quality graphene for various applications. The UK is a centre for graphene research, innovation and funding and consequently this attracts many global graphene industry specialists. By locating in UK, ZEN-tech will be able to tap into the extensive resources available there and will be on the leading edge of the developments in this new and fast growing materials sector. The subsidiary will operate independently of Zenyatta and will be assembling an expert management team once the structure is in place. Details on company structure and related developments will be announced in the near future.' Https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2017/07/25/1057665/0/en/Zenyatta-Announces-the-Formation-of-a-Wholly-Owned-Subsidiary-ZEN-tech-Materials-Ltd-to-Develop-Commercialize-Graphene-Related-Opportunities.html
luckyorange
25/7/2017
22:36
Ah! 'Gele, you're here too! Good luck matey!
festario
25/7/2017
22:26
Thanks Superg1 for your comprehensive reports, a most welcome read for those with less time...gla.lth's,,and Festario..
abergele
25/7/2017
16:07
A couple of trades on NEX as well..... hTTp://www.nexexchange.com/member?securityid=2074266
bones
25/7/2017
15:06
Finally... a trade on VRS today.... and a little buy I think.
festario
25/7/2017
15:02
Depends on what you call large!
astralvision
25/7/2017
14:23
At Cambridge I asked - If a large order came in can your existing kit handle it ? The answer -yes.
serratia
25/7/2017
13:19
re The comment about the first graphene purchase. That came about due to an end user which it turns out was the Mclaren watch deal (in part) already had an idea and plan butnot the product to execute it. Rumour control has it that they had tried a particular graphene which didn't work hence they went to the NGI to find one that did. Which as it happens turned out to be good timing as VRS trials in carbon fibre had recently been completed. The actual watch no doubt started it's plans a year or two prior to launch. So obviously the NGI advice was Nanene. The OEM didn't approach VRS they went to the NGI.
superg1
25/7/2017
12:00
sg I have done all the required research and I'm happy with my position and my take on things. I don't take everything at face value (not saying you do either) It's a question now of seeing how things play out, investing is always a bit of a gamble, I favour VRS but I want to see solid progress. It's a shame they have made that progress harder to track by lumping plastics and graphene together. Who really wants to know how many shopping baskets AAC have produced? But there again there is the suggestion that by lumping these things together it can disguise slow progress on graphene sales. Perish the thought, I'm sure it was done for the best of reasons!
astralvision
25/7/2017
11:50
Astral On the first step of scale up the costs dramaticallly drop as fixed costs are not much different. So 250kg to 500kg does dramatically costs. On the theory side it's simply down to demand and cost. There are probably 10's of 1000's of the kit needed worldwide. So my theory comment is simply demand based.
superg1
25/7/2017
11:03
Astral Have you been to the facility, watched production and spoken to the guy ( Also an engineer) who produces it, as part of your research. Obviously I'm relying on what they say and I see. On scale up some time back the CEO said in theory larger machines will do the same. He did say as an engineer things on paper don't necessarily work in reality. That changed to checking that it works scaled up to the intended scale up kit. EG making sure it works before scaling up and the CEO says it does. The way VRS work is to prove things work. Hence instead of saying we produce graphene and graphene does X Y and Z, they proved Nanene works then said they can do X Y and Z. The main reason being if it didn't work it's not a business to spend money on. That combined with many graphenes out there that don't work. Hence the have called it Nanene to get away from the plethora of junk graphene claims.
superg1
25/7/2017
10:38
PS At the risk of disrupting someone's patent application ;¬) I guess a similar effect might be achieved by using a dual head machine to print alternating layers of ordinary filament, and thin graphene-infused filament. That would still need the microwave heating process, but as that's cheap and quick it's not a great problem. One would have to look at the Texas patents to see what they cover before considering any such approach.
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