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|Zeus Capitals take on things. Interview on Directors Talk.
|Now, a spot of director buying would set this on fire!|
|Is it possible that Ilika has been biding its time on double stacking and larger batteries until today's announcement of the granting of a key patent in the US?
I would love it if this were true, but then, as with my over-large holding in Forbidden Technologies, am I a delusionista?
Come on Ilika.
Let's have the bacon.|
|Rogk, I really can’t figure why this particular point is always in your teeth. I won’t engage next month :) but for the record can you say what share ownership you think they should have & at what frequencies you think they should buy?|
|Without wanting to bore anyone to death going on about collaborations. A company I’m sure we all know released results this morning. They have had licence agreements etc but the sales are poor. The point is, having licences & products on the shelves isn’t the be all & end all. End users have to look at them and embark on a load of integration/compatibility/testing work etc as the product in itself does nothing when it isn’t connected to anything. This task would be incredibly time consuming, expensive and seen as more risky as there is little or no certainty of having a positive end result. By using collaborations with other component manufactures you shorten this integration/compatibility/testing period considerably & are able to offer a fully working product or certainly a more complete part of one. I’m not saying licences aren’t important etc, I’m just highlighting a view that collaborations may well turn out to be the big cheese when we eventually have some of both|
|ROGK - Close period, current share ownership, options up the gazoo etc etc. Pls attach these to your monthly reminder that prompts you to drone on about directors buying shares.|
|HB/AFB - They have always said that the larger batteries for consumer electronic products are very price competitive. Doesn’t it make sense that they would focus on the areas they have (M250, miniature, temperature resistant), getting efficiencies & credibility up before embarking on a more competitive sector? They said they can produce the stacked batteries; whether that has changed or not, who knows? But I wouldn’t necessary assume that it has simply because we haven’t heard that they’re charging in at this point trying to supply Apple etc. Then again who knows, they might be doing just that. I’d at least like to think they've approached Samsung after their recent debacle, with a battery solution that’s right up their alley.|
|Yes sure, stacked batteries is possible in theory, but Obviously not in any sensible price range.|
|Let's face it, deposition technology (or whatever they called it) was never going to be any use for making large batteries. Can you imagine how long they would take to make a single phone battery!
They should never have claimed to be in the process of developing stacked batteries. It was all hype just to mislead investors in order to boost the stock price so that they could raise more funds and keep their business running.
Not breaking any laws (proveably anyway).
More AIM SCUM.|
|The old roadmap pictured batteries of larger and larger size.
Since there is no mention whatsoever of anything larger than the current micro battery for iot we must come to the inevitable conclusion that they have given up on multi-stacking.
I feel they should announce this as it is a major change in the direction of the company.|
|It makes very little difference frankly whether revenues are booked pre- or post- 30 April. Its just a theoretical line in the sand...|
|Pj he's not saying that at all, he's just saying not in y/e 17 which ends next mth. He had to as previously stated deal would come by April.
Licensing deals are being worked on and could be announced very soon. What he actually says is that Revenues from them unlikely to materialise this or next month. We should however see them next yr I.e. From May..|
|Got my fingers burnt here, when will I learn?, if this had blockbuster potential then battery manufacturers would be beating a path to their door, and not just to sign licensing deals but to buy the company. I have no doubt that there s a future in this technology but it's market is looking more and more niche, a micro battery in a micro sector!|
|Nothing has changed? Basically Purdy is telling you no licensing until 2018.
In Director speak that means 2019 imo|
|Oops. Looks like Ilika slipped up in spilling too many development beans.|
|Not sure what to make if it, it doesn't look like we are going to hear of a licencing deal in the next 6wks (I.E this financial yr for Ika) as previously thought and hence the wording of his statement. That is why the mms have lopped it first thing. Maybe though the mms read that as in the next yr.
But actually the fact that licencing talks are continuing with a lot of cos and his statement relates to revenues rather than announcements being likely, makes me feel more confident we will start to hear about these deals. I only hope they won't be along the lines of "collaborations" instead of manufacturing with royalties and large upfront payments.
So for me nothing much has changed, these things always take twice as long as first thought. As long as we get some deals announced with first revenues payable in the coming yr. The first is always the hardest
Bargain price now I think|
|Trouble is, the only hope they have of being important in solid state batteries is to scale up to larger cells, but also to do it quickly, before the rest of the world catches up.
Sadly they seem not to be able to do either of these.
The Stereax battery that they currently have is totally dependent on the idiotically named IOT internet of things. The IOT will come, but not very soon. Too late for Ilika anyway.|
|Well I actually found the update to be quite reassuring. I feel we are moving in the right direction, even if rather slower than we hoped, and am happy to keep this one tucked away in anticipation of it eventually coming good.|
|Yep, just an R&D outfit. When they talk of commercial arrangements with various (big name) companies I think they mean that their R&D costs are being covered. R&D is of course the driver for new technology and critical for future economic well-being, but probably not something that shareholders want to be supporting in the here and now.|