Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[evergreen8] 10/11/2018 20:28

Maisto, thank you for your most informative comment. I am left in bewilderment as to who in their right mind would sell The golden goose?

I will have to recalibrate my understanding of investors to factor in ill informed vendors that had been absent from my thinking.

[evergreen8] 10/11/2018 18:54

Maisto
I agree with your assessment of the factors that the external market would require to see before investing in VRS.
However,I do not see that the absence of external interest would introduce any downward pressure on the share price for LTHs.
So why the decline if the LTH are not selling?
I read posts speculating where all the sells are coming from while expressing Disbelief in the unexplained drop from 180 while at the same time we see full time detractors doing their utmost to undermine the current value.
If the detractors are motivated to this objective would they not also work to the same end by other means?
I remain unshakably confident in VRS and its inevitable success.

[graphite bot] 10/11/2018 18:36

Maisto icompleatly agree with your post.

[lovat scout] 10/11/2018 18:19

Evergreen - what you are suggesting is blatant market manipulation and would result in a criminal prosecution - a risky strategy!

[chezt] 10/11/2018 18:13

I’m intrigued by the Samsung news and their foldable screens for mobile phones. For the screens to be robust enough for commercial production then they must have used graphene in its construction. And, with their links to flexenable and from there to versarien, this must be graphene via vrs, via graphinks. They are going into production now (november) to produce these phones, or so the rumours have it. So I am guessing a substantial quantity is going to be needed and then wondering, what size of initial order would this entail, assuming that I am Joining all the dots correctly?

[maisto] 10/11/2018 17:53

Fest, I hear you. Evergreen, I think you're overthinking it. While Wednesday's RNS was massive for us, I'm not sure that was the case for the majority of the market. As I said in my previous lengthy post, Club is right in principle. The share price need sales. Most people on this board know about VRS far more than your average PI. Joe public looks for real figures, tangible targets etc. So for many people, the latest news was a bit like the previous ones ie collaborations but in a legally binding manner. However, no matter how detailed it was, there was nothing tangible attached to it in terms of sales/revenue prospects or timescales. For that reason I'm not too surprised by the nonchalant reaction it received from the market. Neill is aware of this, too. That's why a few months back he said something along the lines of 'he knows the next news must be sales'.Having said that, I'm absolutely thrilled by the fact that we now have an MOU with a giant like Tunghsu. The potential is indeed enormous and I know this announcement is different from the others. Sales, revenues, profits, global expansion... They're on their way. Everything is coming together, one by one. I wish I could fast forward to 1 or 2 years from now... Looking forward to a very bright future. AIMHOPS: Bootie, I would love to see your chart. Am sure so would others. Just stick a little non-disclaimer note to it and you're done ;)BestMaisto

[bootie64] 10/11/2018 17:17

LO,
LOL,
I am out all day for the rugby!
Be online on the PC tomorrow

[matheus7777] 10/11/2018 16:55

evergreen this could be an explanation for the regular 25k sells with the shares being bought back in smaller increments

[luckyorange] 10/11/2018 16:26

How many thumbs up before you relent bootie? Have confidence , you know what you are doing , yes it is probability and no time scale is ever given by anyone but it is something to focus on . For the here and now your chart looks spot on to me. 👍

[evergreen8] 10/11/2018 16:24

I am assuming that the total pool being recycled could be as little as 50k with each transaction of varying size but at deliberately reducing value. Both the sale and purchase would be evident to the same extent as all normal transactions but with the majority of shareholders holding for the long term there would be no balancing upward pressure on the share price I totally agree with you that in the near future this will be irrelevant as VRS will I believe (dyor) become a global supplier across a range of markets.

[laginaneil] 10/11/2018 15:50

evergreen - sorry if i don't understand but would you not see 50K of purchase's?

[ch1rp] 10/11/2018 15:48

Really it matters not one whit. Check out the AIM market, it naturally goes up and down. It unnaturally also goes up and down. However, this company has done EVERYTHING right. Time and business acumen will move this along very nicely indeed. Looking forward to the batteries, the wondrous effects of graphene, the electric cars, the joined up thinking, the superb business deals all coming to fruition.Just another opportunity to be a part of something transformative:)))

[evergreen8] 10/11/2018 15:20

1teepee: Thank you for your reply which suggests that I did not adequately describe the hypothesis. I am speculating that a team of individuals each holding shares would elect to sell at reducing value to each other and pass the funds received to the next member of the team to fund the next purchase. In this way 50k of shares could be sold round the circle 100 times at 0.5p less each time. This would outwardly show 5 million shares had been sold driving the price down by 50p. Total cost to achieve this would be £25k.
This would explain where the mystery source of all the shares being sold originated.
Any comments would be appreciated.

[realcooltrader] 10/11/2018 15:09

"Golly baby, I'm a lucky c++t"

[mikkydhu] 10/11/2018 15:06

Thank you for that, ellissj.

As they say, "A picture is worth a thousand words." These three pictures enormously add to the confidence already given by the RNS.

[luckyorange] 10/11/2018 15:06

If you don't have a dream, how you gonna have a dream come true?



Captain Sensible , Happy talky talk 🌞

[1teepee] 10/11/2018 14:45

Yeah I won't be investing in first Graphene either , just curious

[ellissj] 10/11/2018 14:24

A simple tweet from neill, showing what is positive and real here ! Many thx. Glalth. Best ellis.

"So last night the guys entertained our new friends from Tunghsu, building lasting relationships and talking about a very bright future

10:17 pm · 9 Nov 2018 · Twitter Web Client"

[owenga] 10/11/2018 13:53

Come on bootie! We like looking at charts!

[wr63] 10/11/2018 13:38

I think you only get London listed companies on advfn.Hoptcopter seems to be the popular Australian equivalent. hTTps://hotcopper.com.au/asx/fgr/?keywords=FGRYou should find all the info on the above links if you want to.I won't invest in any company with Aus links but had a look to see what others were saying about FGR when spid kept promoting them, there seems to be a fair amount of negativity

[luckyorange] 10/11/2018 13:32

Thanks bootie,
😊
bootie sent me his chart with trendlines and didn't want to post it on here because of the hassle we all get sometimes when we project forward.

I think it should be posted up, give him the thumbs up and see if you can persuade him

Hope that is ok bootie?

[bootie64] 10/11/2018 13:21

LO
Interesting date!
I have sent you pm

[1teepee] 10/11/2018 13:05

It the natural cycles of the bull and bear trends that happen over years. It's been repeating since the stock market began;)