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[stonedyou] 02/12/2018 14:02

Dontcha just love the idiots who dispense their bones when all around

them problems are rising, they just wanna increase it!!!!





PC GONE MAD: Criticising migration could become CRIMINAL offence under new plan



A LEADING MEP has warned EU citizens they could be “jailed” for criticising
migration policies if a new United Nations agreement is acted upon.



“One basic element of this new agreement is the extension of the definition of hate speech.

“The agreement wants to criminalise migration speech. Criticism of migration will become a criminal offence.

“Media outlets that give room to criticism of migration can be shut down.

[alphorn] 02/12/2018 11:04

"I may never buy any more shares, I do not think my mind can take the stress of it all".

Who am I? ;)))

How someone can change. (Clue).

[mikemichael2] 02/12/2018 10:54

Have a look yourself, the fight is on youtube.

[minerve] 02/12/2018 10:40

Thanks maxk.

[diku] 02/12/2018 10:39

Did anybody see the big fight early hours this morning?...was it really a draw or a fix?...as a draw it would be seen as unfinished business...so the hunger to make more money for fighters, promoters, sponsors, TV rights etc etc is kept alive....how much money did both the boxers make from the draw?...

[maxk] 02/12/2018 10:28

I personally don't like tuition fee's Min .. clear enough?

[maxk] 02/12/2018 10:05

Good ol man of the people Blair introduced tuition fees (£1k pa), altho I don't remember the tories opposing them

[poikka] 02/12/2018 09:57

There is a little bit of good news on the global trade front, with the US and China starting talks. Might lift my Far East holdings a tad - fingers crossed.

[poikka] 02/12/2018 09:55

So is Parliament going to get the full legal advice that Geoffrey Cox gave to May or not?

We should, we really should, as the word from insiders is that the advice says that the backstop could become permanent. And as we're at the mercy of Brussels, that "could" actually more likely means "Would" - unlike we "could" be £xbns worse off by the year 2035....

Here's more on that:-

"Mrs May insists the agreement's legal text is clear that any backstop - keeping the UK under EU customs rules until a permanent trade deal was in place - would be temporary.

However, her former Brexit secretary Dominic Raab told the Sunday Times the backstop would last indefinitely - for as long as it takes to negotiate a new UK-EU relationship - "unless the EU allows us to exit".

"The EU has a clear veto, even if the future negotiations stretch on for many years, or even if they break down and there is no realistic likelihood of us reaching agreement," he is quoted as saying.

"That's my view as a former international lawyer, but it is consistent if not identical with all the formal advice I received.""

And as the EU doesn't want us to leave for reasons made clear many times over, the result is pretty clear, no?

[minerve] 02/12/2018 09:38

Yes Maxk, bargainbob is right. This all stems from Thatcher. Blair could only play with the cards he was dealt and he didn't envisage the levels of fees the Tories think is perfectly acceptable. Tories think student fees are just another cash cow. Give loans to students and funding is there for: universities, suppliers, construction industry, landlords, pension funds, sovereign wealth funds and whole list of other parasites who will make money on an average student's debt of £40K+. Funny though they f%cked-up trying to sell the debt off.

[cheshire pete] 02/12/2018 09:02

Alphorn #8255 "This could have a far reaching impact on the extreme Brixiteer views of over the cliff and into the WTO life boat"
Sounds increasingly desperate clutching at straws to me but suggest you forward to the project fear desks of the pro-remain dailys, sure they'll capitalise on it.
New business idea though for the mass market: for sale 'Over the Cliff' parachutes guaranteed to give a soft landing on the fertile pastures of our forthcoming New Age. Easy to use and no instruction required, just needs a lot of bottle to activate.

[maxk] 02/12/2018 08:53

Cant think why Treeza wants to keep this under wraps..

[bargainbob] 02/12/2018 08:38

It a stems from the Thatcher era. Maxk, Land of hope and glory for some. I do wonder if Jacko was a Yuppie. I'am sure he will confirm lol.

[xxxxxy] 02/12/2018 08:33

How do I represent my constituents on the issue of our exit from the EU?
By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: DECEMBER 2, 2018
A whole series of emails are arriving in my email box and doubtless in the email boxes of other MPs drafted to ask How will I represent the constituent, given their view. There are different versions, with some of the drafts used by people who want to leave, some who wish to remain, and some who want a second referendum. Some are individually worded by constituents. There are several different views, but an MP of course only has one vote.

There is, however, common ground in the vast majority of the emails I receive. Whether coming from Remain or Leave supporters, the big majority dislike the Withdrawal Agreement. Both sides sees this as an attempted compromise which suits few. Both see the Agreement turns us into a rule taker and bill payer. It removes our bargaining levers by legally binding us to give the EU what it wants before we have secured what we might like. Most people see this rightly as a very bad deal, with no agreement on what we might get out of an eventual Future Partnership Agreement. Some Remain voters think it would better to stay in the EU to have vote and voice as well as taking their rules and paying the bills. Leave voters say the Withdrawal Agreement is not leaving, as we stay in the single market and customs union and carry on paying large sums to buy more time for talks.

This makes my task that much easier. My judgement has been throughout that this Agreement has to be voted down. In the light of the extensive correspondence I have received I do not have to worry about whether I am speaking for my constituents in so doing, as a majority tell me they too want it voted down. The question of what we should then do produces a variety of answers amongst constituents. I will return to these issues over the period of the vote and the sequel to the vote. I feel I need to honour my promises to electors in the 2017 General Election when I said I would support carrying out the will of the nation in the referendum.

The resignation of yet another Minister, the eleventh to go on this matter so far, is a reminder of how Mrs May cannot win this vote unless Labour change their minds. Ministers give up interesting jobs reluctantly, in order to vote against the government. That is eleven more votes against the Agreement so far. It is difficult to see how the Prime Minister could carry on if she goes down to defeat on this central policy she has designed.
The sooner we tell the EU we cannot sign the Withdrawal Agreement the better. The sooner we table a proper Free Trade Agreement and see if they want one the better.

[maxk] 02/12/2018 00:06

Min, you need to look further back, it's actually your hero who really started this.


And the charges that go with it.

[minerve] 01/12/2018 23:55

The problems that are happening with universities are all to do with Tory ideology that everything can run better if left alone to run like a private business. Failed ideology IMO. Universities are so dependent on student fees that, just like car manufacturers, they all have had to go for volume. Only a few universities escape this - like Oxford, Cambridge, St Andrews, Durham etc. Attracting volume means upgrading facilities. And boy, haven't they spent. Some borrowing vast sums in the x£100ms. Why do most youngsters go to university? Well, because there is no other choice. Gig economy jobs that treat you like sh%t. You'll need to have more than one, and the employers pretend you aren't an employee to escape employer responsibilities towards their employees. Look forward to more of this post Brexit. Real apprenticeships don't exist, apart from one or two exceptions. The building trade has started them because it is scared to death of the dearth of skills leaving our shores because of Brexit and early retirements due to skilled labour being overvalued and over-remunerated over the last 3 decades. Other apprenticeships are just slave labour. Look forward to more of this post Brexit. So university they go. It is a disgrace by those within Jacko's cohort that make fun of these youngsters trying to better themselves. Their greed of taking more than their fare share out of the pot will result in our youth paying for many decades to come. Thanks Jacko and friends. Eventually some of these universities will go bust or have to merge because returns will flatten because of oversupply of capital. It will be a sad day when some universities have to close. I suppose Jacko would recommend they go and work for a rather dubious character who wears a Newcastle t-shirt.

As for Erasmus, you wouldn't qualify Jacko. You are a jealous, sad individual. My daughter is a young, energetic, clever, progressive human being which you never were and never will be. You believe your way is best because that is all you know and are capable of understanding. Here is the news: the 20th century ended 18 years' ago. Best get used to it laddie, because we are not going back. The current Little Englander movement is just the last failed hurrah of a generation long gone. A small aberration in an increasingly globalised world.

[maxk] 01/12/2018 23:41

Remainer fantasy's coming to an end..