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[gotnorolex] 19/1/2025 20:44

The deluded chancellor took the governor of the Bank of England to Beijing to bring back a promise of 600m over 5 years. If she could charm only one of the new expats with a sweetener to return from tax exile, she needn't pull that stunt again!

[gotnorolex] 19/1/2025 20:19

All this non-dom envy is BS. Double taxation is confiscation! The UK invested £78.7 billion abroad last year, profits come back and taxed here! That's why were the 5th richest nation, though we are probably the least productive. Individuals who are paid abroad already pay taxes there and were exempt from declaring it to HMRC. The Conservatives changed all that, only to find the tax take diminished because shareholders decided not to take divis from overseas investments and let the pot grow. Most of the millionaires leaving are doing so to avoid a tax raid on their legitimate cash funds, bonds etc. Cypress did just that in their financial crisis in 2013 which is not forgotten. The ultra rich are a nomadic group and will invest where the risk is least and will go where the grass is greener. So will for the time being ignore this green and pleasant land!

[stonedyou] 19/1/2025 19:17

Military Situation On Ukrainian Frontlines On January 19, 2025 (Maps Update)

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Russian strikes were reported in Sumy region;

Russian strikes were reported in Kharkiv region;

Russian strikes were reported in Dnepropetrovsk region;

Russian strikes were reported in Zhitomir region;

Russian strikes were reported in Poltava region;

Russian forces advanced in the Volchansk direction;

Russian forces advanced in the Pokrovsk direction;

Russian forces advanced in the Kursk direction;

Russian forces eliminated 35 servicemen, three field artillery guns in the Kharkiv area;

Russian forces eliminated 430 servicemen, a tank, three infantry vehicles, two M113 armoured personnel carriers, three pickups in the Svatove area;

Russian forces eliminated 195 servicemen, a HMMWV armoured fighting vehicles, and three pickup trucks in the Chasov Yar area;

Russian forces eliminated 535 servicemen, two M113 APCs, four armoured fighting vehicles, 10 motor vehicles, five artillery guns in Donetsk region;

Russian forces eliminated up to 135 servicemen, a tank, an armoured vehicle, a motor vehicle, a Krab system in the Southern Donetsk area;

Russian forces eliminated up to 75 servicemen, an armoured fighting vehicle, five motor vehicles in Kherson region;

Russian air defense forces intercepted 66 Ukrainian drones over the past day;

Russian air defense forces shot down shot down three U.S.-made HIMARS MLRS projectiles over the past day.

Fighting is ongoing in the area of Novy Komar;

Clashes continued on the eastern outskirts of Velyka Novosilka;

Russian forces are storming Velyka Novosilka from northern, western and eastern directions;

Up to 135 servicemen, a tank, an armoured vehicle, a motor vehicle, a Krab system were destroyed in the area.

Russian forces took control of Yasenove village;

Russian MoD confirmed control of Vozdvizhenka;

Russian forces advanced in the eastern part of Kotlyne;

Russian forces advanced to a depth of up to 800 m in Udachne;

Clashes continued in Uspenivka;

Clashes continued in Zvirove;

Clashes continued near Sukhyi Yar;

Clashes continued in Lysivka;

Russian forces eliminated up to 535 servicemen, two M113 APCs, four armoured fighting vehicles, 10 motor vehicles, five artillery guns in the area.

Russian forces advanced in the 10th and Novoseverny neighborhoods;

Battles are ongoing near the refractory plant;

Russian forces advanced on southern outskirts of Chasov Yar;

Up to 195 servicemen, a HMMWV armoured fighting vehicles, and three pickup trucks were destroyed in the area.

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[utrickytrees] 19/1/2025 18:01

Careful has promoted himself to outerspace environmentalist. No doubt we should commit 2% of GDP to interstellar clear up initiatives?

[scruff1] 19/1/2025 18:00

Already selling caps in Manchester. Blackmarket doing gangbusters. Reeves is gonna tax em and kier corbyn is gonna jail everyone caught wearing one.

[diku] 19/1/2025 17:12

AI trade and euphoria is getting very crowded...if and when it does unwind no doubt panic to exit doors...

[gotnorolex] 19/1/2025 17:10

Steve Bannon will try and remove Musk from influencing Trump who needs X to post his off script nonsense and someone to blame if the ludicrous (DOGE) promise of 2.5 Trillion federal state admin staff cuts fail. The figure has already been downgraded to $500 billion and Ramaswamy heading to governorship of Ohio.
That's OK we'll have him here to manufacture our own innovations rather outsource it to China.
Ah! But that would be anathema to Labour, who'd rather dream of hope and live in despair!
Live in hope and die in despair even.

[stonedyou] 19/1/2025 16:37

Military operation in Ukraine19 Jan, 11:30

Ukraine loses over 210 soldiers in Kursk Region in past day

Kiev has lost up to 52,870 troops since military actions started in the Kursk area, according to the Russian Defense Ministry
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MOSCOW, January 19. /TASS/. Ukrainian losses in Russia’s Kursk Region over the past 24 hours have amounted to more than 210 troops, the Russian Defense Ministry reported.

"Over the day, the Ukrainian armed forces lost more than 210 servicemen, an infantry fighting vehicle, five armored combat vehicles, six cars, an artillery weapon and a mortar launcher," the ministry said.

Kiev has lost up to 52,870 troops, 304 tanks, 232 infantry fighting vehicles, 174 armored personnel carriers, 1,572 armored combat vehicles, 1,508 motor vehicles, 373 artillery guns, and 44 multiple rocket launchers since military actions started in the Kursk area, according to the ministry.

[stonedyou] 19/1/2025 16:36

Military operation in Ukraine19 Jan, 12:39

Russian army liberates Vozdvizhenka in Donetsk People’s Republic

Russia’s operational-tactical aviation, unmanned aerial vehicles, as well as artillery and missile forces, inflicted damage on troops and equipment of the Ukrainian army in 143 areas in the past 24 hours, the Defense Ministry said
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MOSCOW, January 19. /TASS/. The Russian army has liberated the settlement of Vozdvizhenka in the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR), the Defense Ministry reported.

"As a result of active assault actions by a unit of Battlegroup Center the settlement of Vozdvizhenka in the Donetsk People’s Republic was liberated," the report said.

Battlegroup East
The units of Russia’s Battlegroup East continued advancing deep into the Ukrainian army’s defense in the past 24 hours, having destroyed up to 135 troops of the enemy.

"The Ukrainian army lost up to 135 troops, a tank, an armored combat vehicle, a car and a 155mm Polish-made Krab self-propelled artillery system," the ministry said.

Battlegroups North and Dnepr
The Ukrainian army lost around 110 troops in the responsibility area of Russia’s Battlegroups North and Dnepr in the past 24 hours.

The enemy lost up to 35 troops in the responsibility area of Battlegroup North and more than 75 troops in the responsibility area of Battlegroup Dnepr, according to the report.

Moreover, the Ukrainian army lost an armored combat vehicle, five cars, two electronic warfare stations, three field branch artillery weapons, and three storage depots.

Battlegroup South
The Ukrainian army lost up to 195 people and a command post of its infantry brigade as a result of actions by Russia’s Battlegroup South in 24 hours, the Defense Ministry said.

"The units of Battlegroup South improved their tactical position, inflicted damage on formations of two mechanized and infantry brigades of the Ukrainian army near settlements of Minkovka, Markovo, Verolyubovka, Chervonoye, Chasov Yar, Podolskoye and Alekseyevo-Druzhkovka of the Donetsk People’s Republic. The Ukrainian army lost up to 195 troops, a US-made HMMWV armored combat vehicle and three pickups. An infantry brigade’s command post, an electronic warfare station and four ammunition depots were destroyed," the ministry noted.

Russian air defense forces destroyed 66 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles and three HIMARS multiple launch rocket systems over the past 24 hours.

"Air defense capacities downed three US-produced HIMARS multiple launch rocket systems and 66 fixed-wing unmanned aerial vehicles," the report said.

Russia’s operational-tactical aviation, unmanned aerial vehicles, as well as artillery and missile forces, inflicted damage on troops and equipment of the Ukrainian army in 143 areas in the past 24 hours, the Defense Ministry said.

"Operational-tactical aviation, combat unmanned aerial vehicles, missile forces and artillery of the Russian Armed Forces’ group of forces inflicted damage on infrastructure of military airfields, troops and equipment of the enemy in 143 areas," the report said.

Battlegroup Center
The Ukrainian army lost up to 535 troops and two Western armored fighting vehicles in the responsibility area of Russia’s Battlegroup Center in 24 hours.

"Damage was inflicted on troops and equipment of seven mechanized, infantry brigades of the Ukrainian army and an assault brigade of Ukraine’s national police near settlements on Petrovka, Dzerzhinsk, Solyonoye, Ukrainka, Novovasilyevka, Shevchenko, Novoyelizavetovka, Lysovka, Peschanoye and Slavyanka of the Donetsk People’s Republic. The enemy lost up to 535 troops, two US-made M113 and Finland-manufactured Pasi armored fighting vehicles, four armored combat vehicles, ten cars and five artillery weapons," the report said.

Battlegroup West
The Ukrainian army lost more than 430 troops and a tank as a result of actions by Russia’s Battlegroup West in 24 hours.

The group’s units secured more advantageous positions and inflicted damage on troops and equipment of ten Ukrainian brigades in the Donetsk People’s Republic, the report said.

"The enemy lost more than 430 troops, a tank, three infantry fighting vehicles, including a US-made Bradley, two US-manufactured M113 armored fighting vehicles, three pickups, seven field branch artillery weapons, including three produced in NATO countries," the ministry said, adding that an ordnance ammunition depot was destroyed.

[stonedyou] 19/1/2025 16:18

Military Overview: Ukrainian Defense In Donetsk People’s Republic Is Crumbling Even Further

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On January 19, the Russian Armed Forces liberated the village of Vozdvizhenka in the Krasnoarmeysk district of the Donetsk People’s Republic. This advance followed the liberation of the villages of Petropavlovka and Vremevka in the Velykaya Novoselka district of the Donetsk People’s Republic.

Notable tactical advance was also made by the Russian Armed Forces in the ongoing battle for the town of Chhasov Yar located west of Bakhmut (Artemovsk). Russian units advanced in the multistory buildings area south of the town council and reached Dneprovskaya street there.

Russian MBTs break down AFU strongholds in Krasnoarmeysk direction. UAV pilots of the Russian Tsentr (Center) Group of Forces detected UAF firing positions. Tank crews received the position data of the target, moved to the firing position, and destroyed the stronghold.

In the Kremennaya direction, Russian forces expanded their control zone west and north of Ivanovka village.

On top of this the situation for UAF units in Velikaya Novoselka, another strong point of the Kyiv regime, is complicated. Pro-Kyiv forces there found themselves blocked from northern, southern, eastern and northwestern directions. Clashes are in fact ongoing in the vicinity of the town.

Destruction of Oshkosh M-ATV of the UAF.

A Russian FPV destroys UAF artillery in the Sukhie Yalti area.

Together with the recent Russian advance in Uspenovka and the crumbling UAF defense west of Kurakhovo the situation for the group of Kyiv’s forces involved in clashes in the Donetsk People’s Republic seem to be continuing to deteriorate.

Russian FPVs engaged a UAF armoured fighting vehicle in Kharkiv region.


The Ukrainian Armed Forces continue attempts to attack Russian regions with UAVs and other weapons. Over the past night, Russian air defenses intercepted two UAVs over Belgorod and Bryansk regions. Earlier, at 29:00-21:00 local time of January 8, the UAF made an attempt to attack the Russian Republic of Crimea with 9 UAVs, which were intercepted. Two more UAVs were intercepted over the Black Sea in the same period.

It should be noted that on January 18 in response to the fire of U.S.-made ATACMS operational-tactical missiles on civilian infrastructure in Belgorod region, the Russian Armed Forces carried out a group high-precision strike against the Ukrainian defense industry facilities.

According to the Russian Defense Ministry the targets included “the Luch design bureau, which is designing and manufacturing Neptune long-range guided missiles and Olkha MLRS rockets”.

It is likely that further attempts of the Kyiv regime to launch UAVs and missiles at targets in Russia will trigger only more active work of the Russian military to neutralize military facility on the territory of Ukraine used by Kyiv and Western-provided supplies and weapons.

Meanwhile, the Russian Defense Ministry released a January 19 report on the progress of its special military operation:

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.

In Kharkov direction, the Sever Group of Forces inflicted fire damage on formations of the national guard brigade and foreign mercenaries close to Volchansk and Malye Prokhody (Kharkov region).

The AFU losses amounted to up to 35 troops, three field artillery guns, and a depot of materiel.

The Zapad Group of Forces captured more advantageous lines and positions, inflicted losses on manpower and hardware of four mechanised brigades, a jaeger brigade, a mountain assault brigade, an airmobile brigade, an assault brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a territorial defence brigade, and a national guard brigade close to Petropavlovka, Novoosinovo, Glushkovka, Borovskaya Andreyevka, Zapadnoye, Zelyony Gai, Zagryzovo (Kharkov region), Novoyegorovka, Kolodezi, and Terny (Donetsk People’s Republic).

The AFU losses amounted to more than 430 troops, a tank, three infantry fighting vehicles including a U.S.-made Bradley IFV, two U.S.-made M113 armoured personnel carriers, three pickup trucks, seven field artillery guns, three of them were NATO-made.

One Kvertus electronic warfare station and one artillery ammunition depot were neutralised.

The Yug Group of Forces units improved tactical situation and defeated units of two mechanised brigades and a motorised infantry brigade close to Minkovka, Markovo, Verolyubovka, Chervonoye, Chasov Yar, Podolskoye, and Alekseyevo-Druzhovka (Donetsk People’s Republic).

The AFU losses amounted to up to 195 troops, a U.S.-made HMMWV armoured fighting vehicles, and three pickup trucks.

One motorised infantry brigade command post, one electronic warfare station, and four ammunition depots were destroyed.

As a result of active offensive actions, the Tsentr Group liberated Vozdvizhenka (Donetsk People’s Republic).

Russian units hit manpower and materiel of seven mechanised brigades, a motorised infantry brigade of the AFU, and an assault brigade of Ukrainian national police near Petrovka, Dzerzhinsk, Solenoye, Ukrainka, Novovasilyevka, Shevchenko, Novoyelizavetovka, Lysovka, Peschanoye, and Slavyanka (Donetsk People’s Republic).

The AFU losses amounted to up to 535 troops, two US-made M113 APCs, and a Finnish-made Pasi armoured personnel carrier, four armoured fighting vehicles, 10 motor vehicles, and five artillery guns.

The Vostok Group of Forces continued advancing to the depths of the enemy’s defence, defeated units of four mechanised brigades of the AFU, a marine brigade, three territorial defence brigades, and a national guard brigade near Dneproenergiya, Razliv, Velikaya Novoselka, Otradnoye, Novopol of the Donetsk People’s Republic, and Temirovka (Zaporozhye region).

The AFU losses amounted to up to 135 troops, a tank, an armoured fighting vehicle, a motor vehicle, and a Polish-made 155-mm Krab self-propelled artillery system.

The Dnepr Group of Forces engaged manpower and hardware of three coastal defence brigades, a mechanised brigade of the AFU, and a territorial defence brigade close to Stanislav, Zmeyevka, Yantarnoye, Tokarevka, Antonovka, Kazatskoye (Kherson region), and Kamenskoye (Zaporozhye region).

The enemy lost more than 75 troops, an armoured fighting vehicle, five motor vehicles, and two electronic warfare stations.

Two depots storing ammunition and materiel were neutralised.

Operational-Tactical Aviation, attack unmanned aerial vehicles, and Missile Troops and Artillery of the Russian Groups of Forces have engaged the infrastructure of military airfields, clusters of enemy manpower and hardware in 143 areas during the day.

Russian air defence systems shot down three U.S.-made HIMARS MLRS projectiles and 66 fixed-wing unmanned aerial vehicles.

In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 652 aircraft, 283 helicopters, 40,792 unmanned aerial vehicles, 590 anti-aircraft missile systems, 20,674 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 1,510 MLRS combat vehicles, 20,800 field artillery guns and mortars, and 30,481 units of support military vehicles have been neutralised.

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[careful] 19/1/2025 15:55

Musks rocket blew up.
What a mess, an environmental disaster.
14,000 satellites in orbit now, space junk.

The rocket blowing up just a few day ahead of Trumps Presisidency must be a sign.
The golden boys luck has turned, an ominous sign.

Talk of going to Mars to live, that will never happen.
Self driving cars on English country roads, forget it.
Twitter X just platforms for layabouts and gossips.
..and a bog standard electric car company, there are too many.

Musk owns a portfolio of worthless junk and yet supposed to be the richest man in the World.
It will be a dramatic fall from grace. This years prediction.

[gotnorolex] 19/1/2025 14:14

I'm all for reform with a small "r" but not for another Reformation!

[scruff1] 19/1/2025 14:04

careful - dont worry - clarity of thought takes time. Like most things it gets easier with practice. Dont give up lad

[scruff1] 19/1/2025 13:57

If you are not against the current establishment you are round the bleedin twist probably in the cabinet, a member of just stop oil or just arrived in a dinghy

[gotnorolex] 19/1/2025 13:17

Here's what I listen to when I want to escape into a world of serenity!

[careful] 19/1/2025 13:01

I need to go and rest.
I must have a virus.
Agreed with one of Scruffs posts.
Does not feel right.

[aceuk] 19/1/2025 12:36

Santander looking at leaving UK



Good for Ye Olde Nag, bad for those 2 middle aged teenagers Ant & Dec?