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[desertjoe] 03/12/2018 17:16

LADESIDE - "they don't actually know specifically what they don't like but they just don't like it." The last time I heard those words "they" were talking about Hillary Clinton.....or was it Nancy Pelosi? Anyway bring it all on for the New Year and get the sterling exchange rate (and our LLOY shares) back up in time for a nice divvi.

[alphorn] 03/12/2018 17:04

"she's not even British". Who was that Poikka?

[careful] 03/12/2018 16:49

I like most of the countries in Europe and the people I have met.
..but when I look around the UK, I see a multi race multi secular society.
Not saying that is a bad thing, but there is no sentimental national image of the UK some Brexiteers on this thread would like to believe.

Immigration and freedom of movement from the EU. was a big issue in the referendum.
The latest figures show about 70,000 from the EU and 200,000. from outside the EU.

Many employers are worried about this development. Hard working educated young EU people are keeping this country going. Our own kids just do not want to work in lower paid jobs, we have lost the traditional working class.
They think that important low paid work is beneath them.
That is why our government has let them in.

[poikka] 03/12/2018 16:45

That's just the problem, Ladeside, just the problem. I mean, who are these people, don't they read the news? Actually, most kids don't, but then they generally like the EU - so what does that say?

I think that most of us on here know why we don't like the EU; we've said it enough times.

It doesn't sound nice though, does it - EU, EUgh...yup, makes you want to throw up.

Gotta go loves, dance night :) - Salsa tonight, Argentine Tango tomorrow evening, then Modern Jive, and so on. Keeps me out of mischief.

Nurse! get that bloody wheelchair outta the way. She's invested in GSK and is in a grump cos they fell big time after saying that they were going to fork out $5.4bn for a bio-pharma. Huh, she should grumble, and she's not even British. How does she think we feel!

[ladeside] 03/12/2018 16:31

The problem with lots of people is they just don't like the sound or notion of "the EU", they don't actually know specifically what they don't like but they just don't like it.

Oh dear........

[poikka] 03/12/2018 16:23

Oh, I nearly forgot - all the so-called "contractual obligations" that we're coughing-up for (£39bn+). Assuming that every EU country by GDP had the same obligations, that would mean that the EU had found £250+bn worth. That's 2.5x the Market Capitalisation of BP.

Nah, it's a bung - and our best card that May's giving away. Stoopid, stoopid woman!

[robwt] 03/12/2018 16:17

"We knew what we were voting for", just simply isn't true.

Cameron sent a little book of doom to every household...it is all in that little book that cost the taxpayer £9 million.

Just get on with it, we have had over 40 years of this nonsense and we have always come off worse after PM John Major because all of our PM's, Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron never had the balls of Margaret Thatcher who was the one PM who told Europe that Britain was not their lacky.

[buywell3] 03/12/2018 16:16

Trump wins again

[poikka] 03/12/2018 16:13

Well you can see what IN looks like, Lakeside.

[ladeside] 03/12/2018 16:10

"We knew what we were voting for", just simply isn't true.

Nobody really knew what they were voting for as the politicians and negotiators, even at this late stage, still can't tell us with any certainty what "out" looks like.

I'd also propose that the majority of the electorate are pretty "challenged" when it comes to politics, economics and current affairs, so again I'd reckon that most certainly "didn't know" what they were voting for.

[robwt] 03/12/2018 16:01

Rees-Mogg is capable of leading the country. Theresa May is all but useless, she has been played by Barnier. New leader is needed to take us out of Europe, that person has to be a Brexiteer.

The deal May is proposing, is a cop out by a weak leader. Rees Mogg is the man to lead the country forward with a deal that is good for the UK or we leave with a no deal. Remainers just don't get it, if we don't show strength now and let them carry on dictating that we have to accept this lousy deal, we will end up weaker than at anytime since we joined.

I do not want to be ruled by unelected dictators, we are too far down the road to even think about silly second referendums.....the people have spoken, we knew what we were doing. Get shot of May and put someone in who can lead, whether you like Rees Mogg or not, at least we know that JRM is clever well educated, shrewd and successful politician, an economist, investor and businessman. His CV is A1.

Outside Europe, we can not only prosper, we will be dealing with Europe on what is good for both parties. As soon as we have left, Barnier will be toast, they will blame the whole thing on the bureaucrats and I would bet the farm that we will be trading with them again, very soon on better terms.

Count the BMW's and Mercs on the road, because the Germans aren't likely to put just that little slice of our beneficial mutual trade in jepoardy. Germany and France have as much, if not more to lose. Have a look at those two countries, riots in France against Macron, Merkel on her way out in Germany.

[alphorn] 03/12/2018 15:27

Many leaders have a sell-by-date and the ones mentioned above, irrespective of one's political views, have reached that point. There are no obvious candidates today that spring to mind and I disagree completely that Boris or Mogg would hack it as a PM.
This is not the moment to have a caretaker such as Davis either.

This is a key time to be nimble in the markets and the coming days could be very profitable. The last 2 weeks have been very profitable too and it will be time to lock in before Christmas.

[bonda67] 03/12/2018 15:19

And from Careful's post, still is!!

[poikka] 03/12/2018 15:11

What really worries me is that Bliar has taken so many folk in over the years, and still does. I dunno.

[poikka] 03/12/2018 15:09

What??!!, Dianne in the running?! Gott in heaven.

[grahamite2] 03/12/2018 15:08

If anything you understate your case, Pete. Blair, Mandelsohn, Major, Heseltine, Clegg - what a grisly crew! - are more than just discredited, they are despised and hated. Whenever one of them opens his mouth he is effectively making a speech on behalf of his opponents.

[poikka] 03/12/2018 15:08

Careful - "A lot of old people were scammed 2 years ago."

Spot on, Careful, so much scaremongering that it's a wonder that the majority still voted Leave.

And all the fuss about Boris and the £350m/week. The man was absolutely correct: it had been made quite clear, or clear enough for those who would see, that we were going to lose the rebate - if we stayed in.

[cheshire pete] 03/12/2018 15:04

Absolutely no way careful, no matter how incompetent she may be she can be voted out of post unlike the unelected EU officials, this is in part what is meant when brexiteers say the EU is undemocratic.

[careful] 03/12/2018 14:26

A lot of old people were scammed 2 years ago.
Don't rub it in by saying you respect their choice.
If an old granny was scammed out of her life savings,
you would not say 2 years later that you respect her right to transfer it to the crook.

..Blair is right this time, you don't get to being a PM for over 10 years and getting wealthy at the same time without talent.

...give the suckers a chance to correct their mistake.
bring on a second referendum.
It will happen, a logical outcome.

We would all prefer Brussels to run the UK before Diane Abbot wouldn't we?

[cheshire pete] 03/12/2018 14:14

Agree Ladeside, however what these yesterday's men such as Blair, Mandelsohn, Major, Heseltine, Clegg don't understand is that they are not like Floyd Paterson or Frank Sinatra who have made multiple successful comebacks, they are all discredited for one reason or another and no longer have the influence that their huge egos allow them to think. By the way I don't consider myself to be an extremist, but perhaps am able to see through some things to what lies beyond.

[ladeside] 03/12/2018 14:01

pete, I don't disagree, I can't stand Blair and think he's a complete manipulative charlatan, however my worry would be that everything's being setup for him and his cronies to come "riding to the rescue" as it were.

Actually I was just looking the other day at the wealth him and the wife had accrued and it made me think that if a couple of public servants from another country had accrued this sort of wealth that everyone would have been "tut tutting" about the "corruption in that country".

Imelda Marcos eat your heart out...............

[cheshire pete] 03/12/2018 13:52

Mr Blair, who is in favour of a second vote, said the choice should be between a hard Brexit or staying in the European Union. Apparently what he said this morning.
Problem for him is the people made that choice 2 years ago when they voted to leave the EU. Same old manipulative Blair.

[smurfy2001] 03/12/2018 13:39

Stocks and oil surge as Trump calls truce in China trade war

Financial markets give their reaction to hopes the trade spat will prove less costly than feared to demand in the global economy.

hxxps://news.sky.com/story/stocks-and-oil-surge-as-trump-calls-truce-in-china-trade-war-11570447

[xxxxxy] 03/12/2018 13:26

Brexit SHOCK:

Dominic Raab reveals what Theresa May is 'hiding in Brexit deal'
DOMINIC Raab claimed he has seen the full legal advice on the Withdrawal Agreement and revealed what Theresa May is hiding.