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[962962] 19/6/2020 09:47

m1k.The s-188 is a notice of intent.Who since it was issued has been sacked,made redundant,given an actual enforcement date.

[watfordhornet] 19/6/2020 09:47

Is 12 weeks notice and statutory not good? Most places are 4 weeks notice where I work. With tax free element prob equiv to 6 months pay. Is it not?

[m1k3y1] 19/6/2020 09:41

962.......are you reading any of the information !
Have you read the S-188 notice ?

And you haven't answered my question about how you negotiate in this situation.

[962962] 19/6/2020 09:37

m1k.And at which meeting did BA dictate.

[m1k3y1] 19/6/2020 09:30

962.....BA are not negotiating, they are dictating.
How do you negotiate with en employer who is not interested in improving on statutory redundancy and 12 weeks notice period.........for everyone except senior management and pilots.

[962962] 19/6/2020 09:28

m1k.Sit down at a table and negotiate.It may get absoloutely nowhere,but this mexican stand off if now becoming a farce.

[loganair] 19/6/2020 09:20

Most airlines around the world are shedding between 10% and 30% of their work force therefore BA is no different and they need to reduce their work force and reduce the cost of the work force that remains.

I can see BA permanently losing 20% to 40% of their profitable business travelers. I read a report that almost every businessman in the U.S. who regularly flew on business were not missing this flying during Covid stay at home.

[m1k3y1] 19/6/2020 09:12

962......what do you suggest they do ?

[962962] 19/6/2020 09:09

m1k.Who in their right mind is even going to consider going on strike.

[m1k3y1] 19/6/2020 08:19

Jailbird......I agree that some will accept. The Unions will now have to consider strike action I believe.

[jailbird] 19/6/2020 07:17

Heard some longer server bring offered 30k tax free Not sniffed at and will tempt ppl nearer retirement on old contracts now .Some a little younger might take it and rejoin when things pick up on same contracts offered now

[jailbird] 19/6/2020 07:09

Agree about the package If that is refused then what will the alternative be ?

[m1k3y1] 18/6/2020 22:38

Well maybe but they are IAG are playing games. The VR that is being offered it seems, is just statutory redundancy and the 12 weeks notice period they have to pay anyway.

Just the same but packaged differently . Cruz has to go and has to appear on TV to be interviewed .

Also hearing that a new S 188 letter has had to be issued to some areas, including crew, as the original
s 188 was drafted incorrectly !

[jailbird] 18/6/2020 22:08

Divide and rule again

[m1k3y1] 18/6/2020 21:21

BA still playing games it seems. A few VR letters have been sent out but targetted and not agreed with Unions.

[jailbird] 18/6/2020 21:11

Blimey This could drag over summer

[m1k3y1] 18/6/2020 18:45

Strike action does seem the obvious recourse for UNITE / GMB, once employees are unfurloughed and aircraft are in the skies again.

[teamwork1] 18/6/2020 18:36

https://www-thesun-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/11890329/british-airways-strikes-flies-passengers-fear/amp/?amp_js_v=a3&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesun.co.uk%2Fnews%2F11890329%2Fbritish-airways-strikes-flies-passengers-fear%2F

[action] 18/6/2020 16:49

New range 230p to 300p.

[m1k3y1] 18/6/2020 13:01

take_that.........agreed.

[action] 18/6/2020 12:56

R we revising 230 again?

[take_that] 18/6/2020 12:49

I think there is an element of IAG being seen to be doing something to justify the draconian actions with BA. The negative press and public opinion surrounding WW and AC is very significant and as I see it becoming potentially more damaging to customer perception and forward bookings than the present Covid issue.A couple of months ago, the press were tearing into Branson. IMHO WW and (when found) AC, have misplayed their hand by being too greedy and neglecting their staff. They could have taken out Virgin with the Branson rhetoric and baying for blood that was occurring.Level Europe is just a half a dozen narrow body aircraft and not the long haul Level.I can't imagine Goldman Sachs are cheap and would have thought that this should have commenced before the whole fire and rehire debacle was published. Personally, I think the management have made fundamental mistakes but time will tell whether they can climb out of this hole that they have dug without incurring too much damage to the brand.

[qantas] 18/6/2020 12:39

IAG CARRIER LEVEL EUROPE FILES FOR INSOLVENCY
18 JUN 2020
BY JAMES CHAPPLE
IAG carrier Level Europe has ceased trading with immediate effect and is set to file for insolvency.

Please do your own research as always.

[m1k3y1] 17/6/2020 21:16

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