Anglo Asian Mining Share Discussion Threads

[bleepy] 06/10/2020 14:32

We have nothing against the Armenian people, Armenian people must hold their government accountable, President Aliyev says...

[teataster] 06/10/2020 14:23

Thanks MF hope we hear something soon.

[casual47] 06/10/2020 14:20

Armenian media reporting large scale assault by Azerbaijan this afternoon.



I think if things are anything like the Israel-Palestinian conflict then we may see the fighting go into overdrive the closer they get to a cease-fire (more bombs are fired 5 minutes before the cease-fire starts than the hours prior)

[lefrene] 06/10/2020 13:45

Cel, that first link was very slick and professional, plainly made to feed the Armenian diaspora in the USA. I doubt the USA wants rioting Armenians in their cities, so the USA too will have an interest in stopping the fighting.

If both parties have started this thing to defuse political discontent in their home populations, then both will want a way out of it once they feel popular pressure has been satisfied.

[casual47] 06/10/2020 13:33

It's a war crime to embed military hardware such as Smerch rocket launchers within civilian communities. It's of course a tactic also favoured by the likes of Hezbollah etc who routinely fire rockets from hospitals etc.

"The streets of Tartar have been deserted ever since Azerbaijan’s army staked out a position in the town, making it a major target in the conflict."

[celeritas] 06/10/2020 13:28

I agree lef, that report was completely one sided. Here's a view all be it small from the Azeri side.

[lefrene] 06/10/2020 13:05

Both countries must realise that they are risk of being taken over by their 'allies' who have their own agendas. The longer they keep fighting then the greater the risk of both of them losing out. They will of course know this, so I'm hopeful they will start talking very soon.

[avsome1968] 06/10/2020 13:05

AMC Bwana4 tip looks like its going places now got momentum at the moment.

[fozzie] 06/10/2020 13:01

Well I very belatedly joined the PXC club this afternoon with a small maiden purchase.

[mad foetus] 06/10/2020 12:32

I think it is mainly just the lack of news. Once the PEA drops, which could be at any time, we will better understand the true value of PXC

[teataster] 06/10/2020 12:15

Any views on pxc? Relentless drop recently. Tia.

[bwana4] 06/10/2020 12:12

Hi Fuji99
Hope you are keeping well.

[bleepy] 06/10/2020 11:57

Russian boots were amongst the occupied armies that drove out over 800,000 Azerbaijani people from their lands.

Russia is as responsible as Armenia for present state of affairs and moreso for past misdemeanors. They as well as Armenia have much to answer for.

Seems their puppeteer satellite state has miscalculated on so many fronts, deceived on an international scale and now unfolding a white flag.

[casual47] 06/10/2020 11:44

Russia's Prime Minister will be in Armenia on Thursday. Apparently it was planned a long time ago but no doubt it is pretty convenient just about now.

[bleepy] 06/10/2020 11:21

Mattjos, another troll to add to your bin list...

[casual47] 06/10/2020 11:17

According to Armenian media:

Azerbaijan's losses are as follows: 3,454 casualties, 126 drones, 16 combat helicopters, 17 warplanes, 379 armored vehicles, and 4 Smerch-type rocket launchers.

[pogue] 06/10/2020 11:10

I have been thinking hard over my AAZ holdings that bit on the military was me starting. I had not thought this would escalate. So now knowing the military might out there I dont see a swift military end to this so the opposite is peace. Problem is its clear the Azeris (and the Turks) are not in that kind of mood judging by the commitment they are pursuing their goal with. The only threat to AAZ I perceive is that the war comes out of the NK region and into Azerbaijan. That would suggest the Armenians turning the battle significantly and then invading Azerbaijan, the former is possible the latter would start a whole new level of escalation which I think would not happen. So I conclude AAZ will survive this unscathed. How this ends and allows the share price to rise however I am not sure. Russia has sat on the sidelines so far if that continues a win for the Azeris looks likely with the Turks backing. Russia joining could bring forward a very nasty conflict as the Turks are in NATO so I believe no one will allow that to happen.
Now how long will this last?

[casual47] 06/10/2020 10:53

Looks like the demands from each side are beginning to crystallise:

Azerbaijan wants Turkey to get a seat in the Minsk Group peace talks.

N-K has said that they themselves should be allowed to make their own representation in peace talks.

Could be a way to return to peace talks: add both Turkey and N-K to the peace platform.

See:


"Only the people of Artsakh have the right to decide their own destiny. Artur Tovmasyan, President of the Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh) National Assembly, stated this at a briefing Tuesday.

According to him, if the enemy shows readiness for a ceasefire, Artsakh is ready to consider that option. However, as per Tovmasyan, the peace talks are possible only in the format after the Budapest summit; that is, with the participation of Nagorno-Karabakh. "Only we [the people of Artsakh] have the right to decide our destiny," he stressed.

Asked whether the relatively stable situation at night is connected with the numerous calls for the establishment of a ceasefire, Tovmasyan did not make any assumptions. However, he noted that the weather is bad, and it does not provide for hostilities. In addition, according to the Artsakh parliament speaker, Russia is already trying to bring the foreign ministers of Armenia and Azerbaijan—and possibly the defense ministers—to the negotiating table. "But we must remember that there is usually a ‘calm’ before the ‘storm,’" said Artur Tovmasyan."

[klosters65] 06/10/2020 10:52

In the event that the Azeris regain and control N K their old land, does that increase the value of our licences ?

[2sporrans] 06/10/2020 10:39

Some may find this helpful:

The location of the main Gedabek mines and plant wrt the Armenian border and the NK zone; sorry the image isn't clearer but my time limited:



So these are located roughly 1/2 way between Ganja [2nd largest city of Ajerbaijan] and the large lake to the West. [Small Gosha u/g mine 40-50km to NW of Gedabek plant.]

Crucial to note:
1. The Armenian border is Armenia 'proper'; the NK zone and the fighting is well to the SE.
2. Although Ganja has been hit by missiles-shells....the AAZ assets are not close to any Azerzi military facility or critical infrastructure - both potential targets.

Moving SE.....here is better map, showing the Nagorno-Karabakh zone:



Note the swathe of occupied territory - the hatched area - that surrounds the NK province as such.
That was predominantly populated by Azerzis pre 1990's, subsequently evicted.

As Donald Pond has pointed out, the NK province was completely cut off from Armenia prior to the conquest of this occupied territory.
As he also observed, the whole zone isn't that large; note the 10km scale.
But, the terrain is mountainous.

Note where the main fighting has been taking place.
The Azerzis main thrust into the occupied territory to the South.
They took the town of Jabrayil a few days ago, according to Azerzi sources.
Will they attempt to form a classic pincer movement, coming down through occupied area, from the North via the Murovdag pass?
This does look very challenging though.

To give an idea of just how severe most of the topography is, look at this:



Wouldn't want to be fighting out on a limb with supply line through that lot; not during winter for sure.

Pertinently to AAZ, that topography extends NW, up through the Gedabek-Gosha Contract Areas.
Think about it....

[lefrene] 06/10/2020 10:36

Celeritas, a very slick piece of propaganda.

[friendzarin] 06/10/2020 10:34

Found this site pretty useful for latest news from a variety of sources.

[celeritas] 06/10/2020 10:15

An interesting take on the conflict.

[lefrene] 06/10/2020 10:04

goldrush, if their Prime Minister is anything to go by, I'm not surprised that they have few friends, but I've never knowingly met any Armenians, and presumably any that I might meet decided to leave for better life opportunities elsewhere. 30 years ago they knowingly took and occupied land that was not theirs, driving out 800,000 Azeri's in the process. Now the children of those deprived people want their inheritance back. Did Armenia think they could sit on this stolen property for ever?