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|Net assets of 17 million Mcap less than 7 million. I suspect the March 2016 house purchase will cause a few dents in the nav. That is probably why the price is falling. Their investment in safestay is back a little too.|
|Does anyone know why the share price is falling? I bought in a couple of weeks ago :-(|
|So the options of Ray Lipton lapsed as per Note 4 EPS|
|why the price rise on friday?|
|Did Raymond Liptons (RIP) options lapse or get exercised? - last day was today:-
"Following the death of Raymond Lipman on 9 June 2015, under the terms of the share option scheme his executors have until 9 June 2016 to decide whether to exercise the share options granted to him."|
|great to see them back doing old fashioned trading!|
|OK thanks EezyMunny.|
|Don't forget the in the money share options michaelmouse. Real "market cap" effectively much much much higher!|
|thats a buy back of over 7% of the company.
Still holding and bought a good chunk of safestay|
|Yes great results, NAV over 83p. Still holding a token amount.|
|Can't believe these have done so well and actually a dividend being paid again. Good luck to those that held firm. I would sell now if I still held as there is big dilution on the way. The Lipman's have done very well to restore shareholder value, albeit most of the value will be for themselves.|
|Worth pointing out the dilutive effect of options...and 9.5 million loan due within a year.|
|Looking VERY cheap now!|
|There won't be a dividend in my view. All the money goes to the Lipman family as it always has done...time for a new ferrari. The only shareholder benefit is the demerged entities. Beware.|
|Just looked a bit more. Don't see how much they paid for Wimbledon so calculating a NAV looks impossible. So I'll retract my "punters paying way over the odds" comment until that's clear.
It's a whatever for me.
I only posted because people are quoting a market cap that fails to reflect the huge load of in the money options. It just needs to be clear that when they are exercised the market cap will be very much higher, and that peeps need to compare their projected NAV with that, much bigger, MCap, and not the misleading numbers people are quoting.|
|agreed EM, it's not 34p but it's not 52p ( cuurent ask ) either, so difficult to project.
suspect they'll keep rising on these 'headline RNS's' though & have therefore raised my target to sell to 60p & out.|
|You're numbers look simplistic Troll.
A fair bit has changed since the £10.6m NAV at 31st March.
Safestay demerger will have reduced NAV a bit I guess.
Profits/losses since, and factor in future profits for Chandos, Wimbledon.
Exercise of options would bring in c. £2m cash but market cap goes to c. £25m.
I see no way that this will have anywhere near £25m assets when Chandos, Wimbledon complete.
My strong suspicion is that punters are paying way over the real value of the company here...though as I say I've only whizzed through the numbers.
The punters here stating market cap at £7 or £8m are IMO just misleading people given the outstanding share options.|
|you musn't misunderstand, the troll's been in SAF since 1994 & has done brilliantly out of it. only sold 20 % of them.
it just can't find a reason to stay in ( hence seeking the views of other - intelligent ?? - posters )|
|£2M market cap in the Header post, now just short of £8M.
Time and time again all one has to do is buy and wait.
Might like to research another stock that I think can do the sane.
Take a read on this thread all the trolls rubbish from 10p upwards.!!|
ten bag man
|I'm not in the least surprised bb. The market is bonkers very often.
Your "Great news this morning, proceeds from the Wimbledon site agreed at 10.3 million. Market cap 6.7 million" comment is just plain misleading - when the 9.25p options get exercised the market cap becomes more like £25m, no?
Last quoted NAV was £10.6m. Some changes since then with Safestay demerger and these recent sales.
Perhaps you'd care to give us what you see as the current breakdown of assets/liabilities, then we can see if there's any value here?
Doesn't look like it to me but I can't be bothered to do it in any detail. I assume as a holder that a) you have and b) you're happy to share it with us?|
|Moved up again today to the surprise of some!|
|that's right & it's all very well crowing off about '£10m sales-proceeds', blah....blah.... BUT what's the land & build-out costing ? what's the profit ? that's what an investor needs to know.... just window-dressing this, maybe ramping up the Co's image ahead of them exercising those lousy options ?|