Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Safeland LSE:SAF London Ordinary Share GB0007667008 ORD 5P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 52.00p 50.00p 54.00p 52.00p 52.00p 52.00p 1,377 07:55:22
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Real Estate Investment & Services 13.0 2.0 14.9 3.5 8.16

Safeland Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
16/6/2017
12:08
Again when they took on the 4 high end houses they must have had an end game plan in mind...will be interesting to see what happens to the houses.
jeff h
16/6/2017
11:48
I reckon they'll get the keys to the 4 Hampstead Reach/Chandos properties soon, Jeff H. Due for completion this month. In the books at £8.9m but Barratt trying to sell one of theirs for £4.8m. Pretty hard sell at the top end in London I guess but the value in the books is just £2.23m each. www.hardhat.co.uk/project/hampstead-reach/
eezymunny
16/6/2017
10:56
Indeed unknowable unknowns. Profit will be c. £3m less refurb costs/expenses etc. Could be anywhere in between 0-3m and I guess £1.842m.
eezymunny
16/6/2017
09:31
SAF said on purchase:- "The Company plans a comprehensive refurbishment of the property, which is expected to take approximately 9 months to complete..." ...so that must have cost a few bob on an expensive property so I would not like to guess the profit but they must have been confident of securing a good profit before laying out such a large amount on one house. .
jeff h
15/6/2017
21:55
Ah yes, thanks, found it. Assuming the sale completes OK they should make £2m+ on it you'd think?
eezymunny
15/6/2017
20:49
...look at the Charges on Cloverdale Estates Limited.
jeff h
15/6/2017
11:34
I can't find any link between Cloverdale and that property. I don't dispute your assertion at all, would just be nice to see the details. Price sounds about right..
eezymunny
15/6/2017
10:17
EM - It's the one that was owned by SAF sub Cloverdale Estates....tried to post a link but does not work so you will have to take my word for it or look it up yourself.
jeff h
14/6/2017
21:41
Thanks JH. BIt of a bargain as it's parallel to Bishops Avenue :) How do you know that's the (former) Safeland property?
eezymunny
14/6/2017
17:33
Here EM:- Http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detailMatching.html?prop=40247259&sale=89607720&country=england
jeff h
14/6/2017
12:33
Where did you get that from Jeff H?
eezymunny
14/6/2017
11:20
£9.275m achieved for the Hampstead house, will have made a decent profit over a comparatively short period.
jeff h
03/3/2017
15:53
well done eezy
hybrasil
01/3/2017
12:01
Decided to have just a tiny few of these for the EEZY4 portfolio, primarily because of what I've read about the share options. https://uk.advfn.com/cmn/fbb/thread.php3?id=30375760&from=1568
eezymunny
23/11/2016
22:50
accounts are wrong as it says diluted eps are the same as undiluted seems weird considering the options
ntv
21/11/2016
16:42
No but you have had safestore, hercules, tecc-is and now safestay all of which Larry promoted
hybrasil
21/11/2016
15:15
Err SAF haven't issued any equity for donkey's years AFAICS. If I owned it I'd delist tomorrow.
eezymunny
21/11/2016
15:03
Except Larry values his postion as someone who can raise money on, and generally use, the market. If they play too strong he will lose that. I speak as someone with a big stake in safestay.
hybrasil
21/11/2016
14:58
Look at the 2011 Annual Report, to see what nonsense can happen if you are a shareholder in a company majority owned by directors (such as this) /www.safeland.co.uk/files/6313/2802/3403/Safeland_AR_2011.pdf "In relation to the Executive Issue, it is proposed that, in aggregate, options over a maximum amount of 24,101,188 ordinary shares be granted to the four executive members of the board by way of incentivisation, representing 143% of the Company’s issued share capital. The amount of options proposed to be issued pursuant to the Executive Issue will also exceed the Remuneration Option Limit. " Laughable! I guess they may behave better in future. It's not entirely uninteresting. Looks like the 4 houses on Chandos Tennis site may be worth a lot for eg (poss much more than they're in the books for). www.barratthomes.co.uk/new-homes/greater-london/h462901-Hampstead-Reach/ I don't think I'd trust them enough to hold anything more than a token number. Could delist etc very easily.
eezymunny
21/11/2016
09:30
Thank you EEZY. While not as exciting they are still not bad value at the current share price I was concerned about the big house purchase. They have obviously made money on it or it would not have gone so quickly. The 17 apartments in the former hotel should generate a lot of cash and I suspect will very much increase the NAV.
hybrasil
21/11/2016
08:52
If those options were exercised shares go to 28.3m. Assets would increase by £1.1 and NAV/share would be c. £18.3m or 64.6p/sh Quick rough numbers DYOR!
eezymunny
21/11/2016
08:41
There are still 12.1m share options exercisable at 9.25p Effective NAV/sh miles lower than headlines! They say "There is no difference between the diluted loss per share and the basic loss per share presented as the effect of the share options in issue is anti-dilutive" which, to me, is very odd! It's presumably because there are losses this half. Look at last year finals and you'll see the dilution if they make any profits!
eezymunny
21/11/2016
08:10
It was probably the mention of uncertain markets.
battlebus2
21/11/2016
08:07
I would say the market simply doesn't understand this co. They announce today they have sold the massive house they bought and that the hotel conversion will complete next year with loads of appts to sell and the share price falls!
hybrasil
27/9/2016
05:49
Net assets of 17 million Mcap less than 7 million. I suspect the March 2016 house purchase will cause a few dents in the nav. That is probably why the price is falling. Their investment in safestay is back a little too.
hybrasil
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