Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[luckyorange] 03/11/2018 08:01

Why would that be tini5? 🤔

[tini5] 03/11/2018 07:55

“Australian-based” has been a red flag for me when looking at potential investments for some time now.

[luckyorange] 03/11/2018 07:55

In fact Talga should be chasing after FGR for a collaboration considering Warwicks findings

'While the size is a big plus, the really stunning result from the latest tests is the yield, at better than 80% conversion of graphite to graphene in less than 24 hours (with better than 50% being achieved in the first four hours). For every tonne of graphite processed FGR can recover 800 kg of graphene. This is dramatically better than what Talga can achieve. For every tonne of graphite ore processed by Talga, it can recover in the order of 25 kg of graphene. FGR’s recovery is 30x more efficient.'

That is just amazing for a production process, almost too good to believe, but I'm sure it's right.



They will certainly dominate having the best graphene in the world and the best production methods , when they get going over here and have production facilities up and running I hope they have an open day.

[luckyorange] 03/11/2018 07:35

It's a minefield trying to get to the truth with some of those Aussie companies , had my fingers burned a few times with them, can't wait for the FGR IPO over here though because there is no b/s there and they do need to set up a production facility somewhere in Europe because of the problems of moving graphene around the world.

So it can't come soon enough with the quantities of quality material that they are able to produce, maybe they can do a deal with Talga as I believe Warwick Grigor was/is a significant shareholder there?

Anyway , looking at another Aussie company that is new to me and trying to sift through the information. Tells you how marvellous it is and you can spend a long time looking in the end knowing as much as when you started. The other option is to speak to the CEO or Chairman but what has put me off is the other Warwick who was on here and could have made a fortune, was convinced by PHE to put all his money in there, almost destitute now I would think?

Had a small amount in MRS way back because I believed what was going on , then suspended and someone else moved in closed this and that paid themselves a huge salary, brought their mates in , horrible when a company is suspended and you know all this is happening yet can do nothing with your shares, horrible.

[spid81] 02/11/2018 22:34

Hi Loglorry,

I honestly thought it was you posting on HC,

I took the post by Loglorry2 as being extremely negative on the progress of Versarien's 27 collaboration partners, I will spend some time during the weekend checking on the progress of all of these. it is evident that none of these agreements have results in a long term supply agreement or large sales order.

Why hasn't Versarien provided battery test results of Versarien / Nanene's work with the Warwick University ? it has been over 2.5 years ?

Talga Resources have a similar collaboration agreement with Warwick University, this started in 2016, they have been giving shareholders regular updates with the progress / development of Talga's batteries that detail the charging rates, capacity, ect. Versarien - zero details.


Nanene and Maclaren, Just from conversation I have had with FGR management, they provided different lateral platelet sizes for testing, i.e they will provide PureGRAPH 5 10 and 20, they will then work with the end user to tailor the product for the best results possible.

Neil Rickets suggested on Twitter the other day the brand "Nanene" has a range of product, the only issue with the nanene method, they do not produce a large amount of graphene that is above 5um - 10um considering the average platelet is 2um.

I am really grateful to LL2, he/she has just listed to FGR management 27 potential customers who are keen to use Graphene in their products, it shouldn't take FGR much effort to provide PureGRAPH to these companies for testing. As you know, FGR took one of their collaboration partners idea into a commercial application within 4 months,it is now being used by Rio Tinto.

[loglorry1] 02/11/2018 22:04

Some idiot is posting silly stuff using the name loglorry2 on HotCopper It's just childish stuff.

How do you know SG meant Maclaren tested with Nanene first and it didn't work? Were you just kidding? I guess that might be the case but there's no evidence of that.

Academic papers take a long time to come out. They can take years it's possible this paper was based on work from 2016. A lot has changed since then.

[superg1] 02/11/2018 22:00

Jacko you listed Renishaw.

They supply precision kit to them, just mentioned it because some mentioned Renishaw.

Examples of VRS precision quality products hence Rolls royce became a customer.

Rolls royce not in an RNS but in an RNS is the engine part news. Details of that are on the web, stated as such.

Behaviour breeds behaviour and hence quality graphene is also key.

When you are known for quality and standards it all helps.

Then up popped Mclaren for the first major graphene order.

[spid81] 02/11/2018 21:37

@loglorry, I think SuperG1 answered your question in 45313

SG1 post
"I strongly believe other 'graphene' was tested by Mclaren and didn't work"

What we can take out of SG1 comments, they tried Nanene the 0.1 - 10um standard production, the product failed or provided little to no benefit, so they asked for a much large platelet size to achieve the results that they have in the paper.

Nanene has a average lateral platelet size of 2um,

Majority of the nanene production is well under the 5um minimum to 10um required for carbon fibre applications.

Great to see further development with graphene,

BTW are you posting on HC in Aus as LL2

[luckyorange] 02/11/2018 21:31

Where has Curtain Twitcher got to?

A vid of the Jinan Innovation Zone he posted a while back, a bit lost in the voice over translation, first off the blocks but falling down the order maybe , due to indecision?

[luckyorange] 02/11/2018 20:40

It's a twitter thing

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To say thank you to our shareholders & communities I will be announcing an advent present every day of December up to Christmas day.@nigellaughton will be assisting but he doesn't know yet.These maybe events,activities or presents related to @versarien or myself. watch this space

[alchemy] 02/11/2018 20:37

Oh yes ..... put me right please .

[luckyorange] 02/11/2018 20:29

Wrong end of the stick there Alchemy .

[alchemy] 02/11/2018 20:16

For convenience of thread users . Advent starts this year on December 2nd *. Then there's news of differing import no doubt each day . Whether working days or all days at least 15 news items next month. * A Sunday.

[ewads] 02/11/2018 20:15

jacko54 - filtered

[jacko54] 02/11/2018 20:09

Sorry Super to reply late I've been busy at work, plus now keeping up with the massive feed.So question was where do you get the info of VRS working with Renishaw, I haven't seen it.

[superg1] 02/11/2018 20:01

Richie

Check the wording of recent news, it seems obvious to me. Unfortunately most AIM companies are known for BS so it can be hard to accept what is released. There was a distinct change in wording.

Besides that, a nervous Peter Jay was clearly mobbed in China and said it was ‘near’. Nervous because he didn’t know what he was allowed to say.

[richie32] 02/11/2018 16:41

I think we are now close to something very big.

Just a feeling with nothing to back it up I'm afraid but I am getting quite excited about what is about to come along.

Have a great weekend everybody!!

[scottishfield] 02/11/2018 16:34

A good week, good w'end all.

[tini5] 02/11/2018 16:34

Cheeky top up into closing :-)

[loglorry1] 02/11/2018 16:32

@SuperG I'm not saying VRS is a scam far from it. I'm trying to understand why it demands the premium of £170m over its peer group.

The Graphene in the study paper tweeted today does not match the platlet lateral size range given on the Nanene website. The paper clearly implies that lateral dimension 5um-10um was very important. It also says about 5 layers.

If Nanene does match this spec why does the tech sheet on the nanene website not reflect this? Why if the work in that paper took place after 2016 did they use the old brand name not the new one?

Isn't it reasonable to ask if this paper was based on the old research already released in 2016 or not?

[moljen] 02/11/2018 16:28

Super - could you let me know what Jonathan means when he uses the big words such as mind-blowing, double digit, incredible. Just so the slow ones, the nice but dims, like me can understand what he's saying properly