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[pshevlin] 25/7/2018 12:55

"Parmenion"? Isn't it just an investment company?

[joeblogg2] 25/7/2018 12:54

Guys thinking of all these nos , lets get the first deal in!!

[melf] 25/7/2018 12:47

Thanks Spike (23247). Makes sense and all good :-#)

[club sandwich] 25/7/2018 12:45

"there is a reasonable chance that VRS will achieve that Unicorn status in time and if it does, and in doing so proves the commercial viability of graphene, then there is an even better chance of multiples of that"

you're not thinking big enough. Remember Parmenion...

[edit] Personally I like Super's figure of £385bn. For China...

[redchef] 25/7/2018 12:27

Lucky Orange, I would agree Continental should be on top of their materials tech not to need the same consultancy from VRS as other market sectors

[johnveals] 25/7/2018 12:16

Like any materials additive the quantity depends upon the desired properties which in turn depend upon the application. I am sure whoever uses graphene will understand all of this and I am willing to leave them to do their job. Graphene, we are told, will be everywhere, so there is a reasonable chance that VRS will achieve that Unicorn status in time and if it does, and in doing so proves the commercial viability of graphene, then there is an even better chance of multiples of that. The big picture narrative supports all of this.

[club sandwich] 25/7/2018 12:12

Turbo - Eliot might have measured out his life in coffee spoons, I seem to be measuring mine in VRS RNSs ;-) Thanks, but I won't inflict my poetry on anyone. A Vogon once told me some of it was really rather good...

hxxp://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Vogon_poetry

[pandeck] 25/7/2018 12:03

The current 124.500 trades are buys.....

[tini5] 25/7/2018 11:51

Collaboration implies input from VRS with regards technical expertise perhaps, which is why rules of engagement and scope need to be defined, agreed and signed.

[spike_1] 25/7/2018 11:45

Melf: re your: We know that the relationship with the tyre company is not a "collaboration", it was simply a supply of nanene to them for testing. Has anyone any thoughts as to why the relationship wouldn't have been formalised as a collaboration? Just curious.........

It is a very good question, and a very good answer on this bb was that a collaboration is a legal document that can take weeks / months to tie up, whereas 'sell me some to test' achieves the near term goal much quicker and easier, and if you're in a hurry ....

Best wishes - Spike

[luckyorange] 25/7/2018 11:42

Why no collab with Continental? I suspect their R&D dept; is big enough to get on with the testing with a bit of info from 2D Tech where required and would think that they can crack on.

[willoicc] 25/7/2018 11:28

I think the best thing to do with plastic bottles is to

- add a biodegradable product to make them biodegrade when they have been emptied
- add graphene to make them keep their form until whatever content is in them is emptied out
- when empty 'switch' to biodegrade mode.

If the above makes sense.

[tmoon] 25/7/2018 11:21

A different analogy than iron filings and rebar.
Think of a sheet of steel reinforcing mesh in a layer of concrete which makes it stronger, an extra one in the top if it's thicker conc. Now imagine lots of layers of mesh each with the squares slightly off the position of the one below it so there is less concrete between the mesh eventually weakening it ie same as multi-layer graphene.
I've probably over simplified it and I'm sure the brilliant Superg1 wil put me right.

[20pc] 25/7/2018 11:19

Lovat. I assume low pecentage 1 or 2. Lots of variables. Ie carbon fibre as an average it only goes into then rwsin which is about 30% of the productthat is 2% so you would need to know how plastics are made and where the nanene is added. Not got my notes to hand. Hope this helps.

[serratia] 25/7/2018 11:16

LS,

If you think of Nanene as simply a reinforcing layer you might expect the optimum addition rate to a polymer to be the same for all materials. There's not a lot of detail out there but the implication so far is that different composites have different optimum addition rates.
Another factor is that varying the addition rate varies the strength. Extra Nanene up to a point gives extra strength but the more you add the greater the cost. Perhaps users optimise the cost benefit ?
I'll keep an eye on bottles and report back anything I find.

[turbocharge] 25/7/2018 11:13

club why not try your hand at a few lines of poetry to burn off the excess energy (can't be as bad as my attempts)

[richardc77] 25/7/2018 11:08

Sadly Club cannot help himself, probably tourettes. I’m mightily impressed that we have held up so well and are rangebound in the 120/130s, been a great ride from where we came from, which we should not forget or be too greedy too soon.

More to come of course but no rush.

[club sandwich] 25/7/2018 11:08

a_game - "If I said to you right now, the share price will be £2 in September"

well the share price could be anything in September. The shorters might have taken it back to 70p (unlikely), or another big collab could have arrived (160p) or a small initial order for earphones (£2) or a 10,000T-a-year mega-deal in China (also unlikely, but probably £50 a share if it happened).

[club sandwich] 25/7/2018 11:05

"Why do you have to be so arrogant sometimes?"

a bad habit from the past I haven't entirely unlearned yet. sorry ;-)

[lovat scout] 25/7/2018 10:50

Anyone have a clue about my earlier question in nanene mixing ratios for a plastic bottle? I’m assuming not as it’s probably a secret!

[melf] 25/7/2018 10:47

We know that the relationship with the tyre company is not a "collaboration", it was simply a supply of nanene to them for testing. Has anyone any thoughts as to why the relationship wouldn't have been formalised as a collaboration? Just curious.........

[a_game] 25/7/2018 10:43

Yep - don't fret club - nothing has changed, all will be mighty fine! If I said to you right now, the share price will be £2 in September, I'm sure you'd snap my hand off. So forget about the short term movements (which aren't even bad - we're holding this level very nicely!)

[spike_1] 25/7/2018 10:42

Club re your: I think they'd probably have to RNS if they'd signed 23 new LoIs (Letters of Intent)... ;-).

I think you should know by now that Neill has made it clear several times that he doesn't RNS LoI's and NO there is no requirement to do so.

Re your: He should say everything or nothing - and he can't say everything, so...

Why do you have to be so arrogant sometimes?

Best wishes - Spike

[dickiebird2] 25/7/2018 10:39

Club it will be all right on the keep calm!