Scancell Share Discussion Threads

[tosh123] 07/3/2019 09:39

Re the FDA taking their time on signing off the trigid device.
Bearing in mind the fact that the US military are proposing to use the gun, coupled with the suing culture of the US in general, i can totally understand their requirement to be extra vigilant before giving it the thumbs up.
In principle, although the US military involvement can be seen as a very positive step, by definition, it also increases the liability on the FDA to ensure that they do their job correctly.
Just taking someone else's word for it, is not in their remit, nor would it be the professional thing to do, because in the very unlikely event that something went wrong, that would open them up to massive criticism, and quite rightly so.
Just let them do their job.

[floydymagic] 07/3/2019 08:58

SKIN Integumen


Wonderful growth stock about to take off.

[oldnotwise] 07/3/2019 08:56

Tosh
Probably nothing to say ... ;-)
ATB

[tosh123] 07/3/2019 08:49

ONW,
at least its remaining above the 5p threshold, which is a positive.
If it breaks into the 5's, it could be a real issue.

Looking at the LSE BB, it looks like a one man show over there now ... out of the last 25 posts, 19 of them have been penned by the same poster ( C7 ).
Now i wonder why no one wants to post over there ???

[bermudashorts] 06/3/2019 18:47

super - yes exactly

re. Woodford - yep things not going as smoothly as he'd hoped it would seem!

[supernumerary] 06/3/2019 18:06

BS - to meet new withdrawals!

Incidentally I saw that Woodford had come in for some criticism over the weekend. It seems that his Income fund, which was sold as a stable FTSE 100 big business income-reaping fund (why not buy a tracker, we ask?) has been forced by withdrawals to sell off many of the large cap stocks to meet the redemptions, leaving it looking more like a high risk long term small cap fund :) So now, apparently, he's shuffling stocks around his various funds to make it all look right again...

[inanaco] 06/3/2019 17:31

Tosh

what price did you buy shares at all those years ago ...

as since you have not traded apart from the known top up around 27p of £1000 that was after ONW sell ..

[oldnotwise] 06/3/2019 17:15

Tosh, actually, no.I started out thinking "when" but I've recently begun to perceive a drift towards IF, so that's why I'm saying that the spell is beginning to be eroded from the outside.
Hence the reason (quite apart from cashburn) that the deal (IE the Rabbit) needs to be produced sooner rather than later!
AIMO
ATB

[bermudashorts] 06/3/2019 17:13

Super,

re. City Financial, yes you're absolutely right but it does temporarily relieve them from the position of being forced to sell to meet withdrawals.

[tosh123] 06/3/2019 17:02

ONW,
we both know its always been "if" rather than "when", hence the race to mitigate the risk by trading in and out until a comfortable Risk vs Reward ratio has been achieved.

Like yourself, i do still hold out hope that the bunny will appear though, and if we're still in business by 2021, then its my opinion that we could well see some positive share price movements.

[tosh123] 06/3/2019 16:55

Super,
good to hear from you...
Unfortunately the BB has been infested recently, but i hope that the last liberal application of Canesten Cream has had its desired affect.

Hopefully "City Financial" will survive, but alas im not very confident of that. The city will turn on any weak animal and tear it apart at the drop of a hat.

Lets see how the situation plays out though.

[oldnotwise] 06/3/2019 16:52

Tosh
Sadly I think there's a number of investors here who are beginning to shift (in the SCLP situation) of not WHEN there's a deal, but IF (hence the rabbit and hat scenario)! Certainly the recent share price direction isn't helping.
If any such thoughts were to permeate the Market, what price Scancell? However if that dread situation were to occur, then there could very well be a massive trading opportunity to be had.
Not all is lost by any means, but SCLP's IMO is becoming more vulnerable to opportunists.
Anyway, it's back to waiting and seeing what unfolds.
ATB

[the real lozan] 06/3/2019 16:51

Super -
A chess player I see

[supernumerary] 06/3/2019 16:46

I missed BS's original post - even with several filters on, the board is overwhelmed with rubbish - but as I read the City Financial quote, they've only suspended dealing in the fund, not by the fund:

'He said the suspension to dealing in the Absolute Equity fund was 'temporary' and managers David Crawford and Ade Roberts were still free to buy and sell stocks 'whilst raising liquidity to meet those redemptions received in an orderly manner'.'

So they can still buy and sell scancell as and when they wish.

En passant, for some of us, sclp has been pretty much uninvestable from the beginning. Reasons have varied over the life of the company, and there've been occasional attractive trading opportunities (which I've never used), but amongst them are the initial need for large amounts of cash for trials, the poor choice of initial trial, the inconclusive results in the absence of controls, the evident overreach in trying to keep multiple drugs running in parallel, the exhaustion of supplies of SCIB1, the ongoing 'shoot in own foot' fiasco with Ichor, the continual delays and broken promises etc etc. At no point do they ever seem to have emerged from the continuing threat of dilution, and I can easily see them following the RENE path to 3B shares in issue...

It's amusing to go back and read old Filbert's post from the earlier thread - he was consistently negative, and consistently right. Sadly he no longer seems to post on advfn, unless someone knows different?

PS thanks tosh for the posts on derivatives - good to read something knowledgeable on a topic that's usually very poorly understood.

[the real lozan] 06/3/2019 16:43

Psycho -
"the Science is Good enough to warrant investment and to hold it .."
*WE ALL know well enough that YOU are over-served and well practiced in 'holding it'
Many many already regard YOU in those roundabout terms.
.
YOU'LL go blind YOU know.

[inanaco] 06/3/2019 16:36

Tosh

you have already admitted to holding for a big fat fluffy bunny ....

have you changed your mind again ... ?

[tosh123] 06/3/2019 16:34

ONW,
what the City situation also highlights, is the tight rope that some investment managers walk, especially when dealing in high risk stocks, which is why i doubt that in the event that there was a further raise, there would be too much of an appetite to participate by our current list of II's.... unfortunately.

Hence we agree that we need a big fat fluffy bunny to appear.... and soon.

[inanaco] 06/3/2019 16:32

Tosh why is it ...

when you have failed miserably to explain your position that you consider you have won a debate

what exactly have I conceded on ?

nothing ...

indeed after getting you to admit you are holding for a deal

and

ONW ... description .. "core holdings"


you have lost


because all these £6 and £8 share prices are based around trial results

which is exactly what you are holding for as a deal is expected from them


you cannot keep contradicting yourself because your strategy is at odds with the fall in the share price in that you did not sell ....


anyone sensible can see that

which is why Bermuda will NOT post in support of you ...

why ........ because he is doing exactly the same ... the Science is Good enough to warrant investment and to hold it ..

[the real lozan] 06/3/2019 16:26

Psycho -
I am not alone.
Everyone here 'has a pain in the RRRs'.....YOU

[tosh123] 06/3/2019 16:25

Loz,
do you know what.... i think that today's performance by the resident village idiot has finally done our work for us.... He's made himself look so stupid that we dont need to engage him anymore, he's self destructed all by himself.
Im happy to leave him to ask and answer his own silly questions now. He has proven that he is inept in every way, so lets just leave him to talk to himself.
Job done.... Lets finally move on.

[inanaco] 06/3/2019 16:21

Miavoice

A leopard never changes its spots ....lozan has an illness

[tosh123] 06/3/2019 16:19

Berm,
who knows, im sure theres a lot more to come to light yet, either way, im certain the regulator will take a very keen interest in what has happened and why.

Maybe im being a bit cynical, but having been around the city for many years, when something like this happens, there's usually a dirty hand or two with fingers in the till.

But as you say, all speculation until the auditors / liquidators have finished their investigations ( which will of course result in the poor investors getting even fewer pennies in the pound, because liquidators fees invariably = money left in the pot ).

[the real lozan] 06/3/2019 16:17

Tosh, O N W et al -
"so whats the point of engaging him."
The POINT of engaging HIM..IS by doing so HIS LIES and FALSE CLAIMS are EXPOSED.
Anyone new, or unaware of HIS LIES and FALSE CLAIMS - designed to tempt them into HIS Buy, BUY,BUY {and HOLD} SCAM, is able to see HE is unstable = Off HIS trolly, and VERY LIKELY to mislead potential investors into LOSSES...Just like the underwater people who already have fallen for HIS trHYPE.
Some may still be CONNED into playing HIS 'This WILL be £8+ a share..NO RISK...GO ALL IN" greed based trHYPE
Which is EXACTLY why HE persists...Even when after 7 years of FAILURE / LOSSES = HE NEEDS new 'victims' to create 'demand' / S P... in order to try to Get HIS money BACK
As do HIS previous underwater 'victims'
.
Any new 'victims' CANnot say 'they were not WARNED'
But, Greed, LIES and FALSE CLAIMS will still attract some into the TRAP.

[oldnotwise] 06/3/2019 16:12

Just noticed, SCLP has underperformed CF over the last 12 months.... CF only dropped 38% on the Absolute Equity Fund.....
There's some consolotation for CF's investors...
AIMO
ATB

[bermudashorts] 06/3/2019 16:12

tosh - re. your 20374, might be a bit premature - we don't yet know that anything illegal has taken place. AFAIK director loans are legal and above board provided they have shareholders approval. Whether they're morally acceptable is another matter of course.

Just for clarity - the above comments are in relation to the directors of City Financial and are nothing to do with Scancell.