Scancell Share Discussion Threads

[inanaco] 06/3/2019 14:19

Panama7 ...

if you had the answer already ... why did you not sell at 60p .. ? from memory you had 600,000 shares

why are you still here moaning about YOUR decision to HOLD ??

it's not my fault !!

that you have made the same posts on the BOD for the last 3 years .. why have you NOT sold ??

[drdobson1] 06/3/2019 14:14

Panama/Tosh

As you say it is the market that determines the share price The crucial factor for me is yes I have bought a few at these low levels as have some others but the vast majority of PIs are not increasing their holdings and in the absence of this volume and news and a couple of persistent sellers it is inevitable that the current downtrend will continue.
Nothing to do with whether you see value here at 6p and yes apart from a few small buys the wise money is on waiting for confirmation of the trend reversing or news

[the real lozan] 06/3/2019 14:14

BoB -
No need to say "sorry" to me mate...You are RIGHT
"If you think that discussions on here or comments from Lozan can drive down the share price then you're seriously overestimating the power of this bb and Lozan (sorry Lozan!)"
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The TRUTH IS, I {Lozan} or others, are NOT the one's trying to AFFECT the S P, or tell folks what they should or shouldn't do /how to trade.
Or trying to 'create demand' /push up the S P with LIES and FALSE CLAIMS.
There is ONLY ONE person / gang who does that, even urging folks to BUY,BUY,BUY {and HOLD} whilst HE is HIMSELF ...SELLING

[inanaco] 06/3/2019 14:09

4/ is interesting

as my comments did not sweep it under the table

and can you list the conclusions drawn from other posters on the subject ... ?

indeed can you actually identify Lozans alternative View ?

1/ is sentiment .. already covered
2/ is guess work
3/ reasons for the delay dismissed ... indeed by ignoring what scancell has achieved over the time frame you are just playing into the "sentiment" driven "non science based posters" who would not have a clue about hydrophobic conjugate ... or the importance of a CD4 ... for that matter

so best of luck .. on your funding posts and why the share price is 6p ...

i would say it's simple myself ... we moved to 6p because of a 5m share movement

[bermudashorts] 06/3/2019 13:56

Inanaco,


1)Whether I'm holding for a deal is irrelevant. Buying, selling, holding is a judgement call and if you're sensible, it's one that you should constantly be revisiting. Scancell's finances are an essential part of the overall picture and I couldn't even begin to decide whether to hold or sell if I didn't look at funding - I don't know how anyone can.

2) Transformational events may be on the horizon in H1 - but they may not! Or the market might not react as you hope.

3) The reason why Scancell's share price is sitting at 6p isn't funding, it's that it has spent 4 years without any products in the clinic and has consistently failed to meet its own timescales.

4) If you think that discussions on here or comments from Lozan can drive down the share price then you're seriously overestimating the power of this bb and Lozan (sorry Lozan!) If anything I think any jittery shareholders might find it more reassuring to see open, honest and realistic discussions about funding rather than dismissive, sweep it under the carpet type comments.

[inanaco] 06/3/2019 13:56

Bermuda

Before you start going off on one about the use of the word "drug" ...

i am trying to separate the "active part of the vaccine"

from the Active part of killing cancer via this method

it's not a word play game

[inanaco] 06/3/2019 13:52

when people like Tosh predict a movement down ..

what they are not doing is predicting why it will move down ...

Indeed Tosh has just posted as such .. "history"

it's just pure guesswork as he has a 50/50 chance of being Right

what tosh is Not doing is

predicting that moditope will be delayed by the "complexity of manufacture"

predicting the SCIB1 trail will be delayed because the FDA (medical devices) are blind to the EMA and actual patient data

what is Astute ? being able to toss a coin ?

Has Scancell science ever failed ? No .. yet he now predicts Failure of the collaboration agreement to complete ? based on what ?


or

actually trying to understand the actual area the we are in which is not quite so black and white .. because a vaccine is a precursor, in itself its not a drug ..

the natural T cell is the actual "active" functioning part

and it's the area of Immunosuppression of the cancer by the immune system that is the target ... because unless you can flip that first ...

you will not eradicate the tumour

[panama7] 06/3/2019 13:46

Tosh , 100% correct , this distressed share price has got nothing to do with sentiment, it is a failure by the BOD to do anything on time. As I stated earlier had timescales been met would the share price be 6p today, of course not. It's not sentiment it's a shambles of a BOD.

[tosh123] 06/3/2019 13:36

but this as a statement is fundamentally flawed ... " are you holding for a deal to bridge the funding gap which "will" happen before a funding situation is in play "...

The word " WILL " is pure speculation. In fact, if you consider ALL the previous deadlines provided by the SCLP BOD, NONE of them have come to fruition, therefore, taking historical events into consideration ( which is what we do ), the chances are H1 2019, will come and go without the required finance being in place.

As Berm quite rightly points out, it is always better to raise when you dont need to, rather than be forced into it at the last minute, and the end of H1 , will be the last minute.

Also, Loz doesn't make the market, the market makes the market, hence the current distressed SP, people / investors are nervous.
They have been let down by the BOD and their time lines on every occasion.
There are no guarantees in this business, especially when dealing with a baby bio, so better to be aware of those dangers than to just ignore them.

[inanaco] 06/3/2019 13:25

The point of what i said on the LSE and here .. is Funding today is not required and events that could transform the position are in the H1 2019 time frame, so why be concerned about a future event that might not even happen.

pont is are you going to sell at 6p because the Funding situation is serious or are you holding for a deal to bridge the funding gap which will happen before a funding situation is in play

Its an investor's choice

but if we keep getting a movement down to a new low based on an event that has not happened ie funding at 6p ... then the share price will move to 4p because loz will claim discount to share price blah blah blah .. we hit 4p because of loz and so on ....

what sort of predication are you actually looking for ? and if you find it .. its not "lets worry about it" because that achieves precisely nothing because it's not a solution to funding, it's a sentiment driver

[bermudashorts] 06/3/2019 13:11

Inanaco,

Wanted to reply to your 20271 from yesterday but sort of got taken over by other events. Firstly thanks for actually explaining your reasoning re. funding, much better than just dismissing it IMO.

If you read the interims and project forward, I can't see how they can get to the end of the year and that's based on current spending, obviously as they commence trials the cash burn rate will accelerate. I'm happy to discuss the whys and wherefores but the point I really wanted to make is that the current situation with City Financial highlights perfectly why companies shouldn't leave funding until the coffers are almost empty. Scancell are fortunate that they're fine for cash atm but can you imagine if they HAD TO raise now and compete with City Financial to place shares?

The ideal scenario would clearly be that funding comes via BioNtech or another licensing deal (there's your rabbit ONW!) but if an equity placing is required then there is still time for the City Financial situation to resolve itself and for some positive news to reverse sentiment.

[miavoce] 06/3/2019 12:36

Hi the real loan

I agree that a decent portion of what get posted wouldn't get posted, but there are plenty of posts that don't fall into those categories.

[the real lozan] 06/3/2019 12:24

Quite a 'list -
However
If one were to follow it...NO ONE would post anything at all.
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On second thoughts =
Quite a 'list -
However
If one were to follow it...NO ONE would post anything at all.

[miavoce] 06/3/2019 12:17

While the BB is in a reflective mood allow me to add my view.

I fully agree that all have the right to post what they wish and that nobody has the right to suppress that.

However I also believe that we are each responsible for what we post and accountable for the effect it has on the BB as a whole and individuals using it.

In order to ensure that the BB remains a decent and pleasant place for all to exchange views I would ask that before making a post each of us reads what we are about to post and reflects on whether:-

- it could be taken as rude, offensive, antagonistic, arrogant, nasty or suchlike
- it doesn't fit with this being a place to exchange view regarding Scancell or the space in which it operates
- it is simply repeating / resurfacing old arguments that have long since passed their relevance
- whether they are simply digging up the past for the purpose of causing friction
- it isn't adding anything new, interesting, funny etc

If it falls into any of the above categories then I'd ask that the poster thinks twice before posting.

[inanaco] 06/3/2019 11:54

Let's hope the BB plays the ball .....

Play Nicely ...

[oldnotwise] 06/3/2019 11:46

Gaz... Brilliant
:-)

[gazza] 06/3/2019 11:35

Loz, well said. As Evelyn Beatrice Hall said:

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

[chelsea35] 06/3/2019 10:46

Thanks for your thoughts guys

[the real lozan] 06/3/2019 10:23

P 7 et al -
It is good to see that my posts 'Alternative Views' are at least being viewed by a number of observers of this forum.
Especially, as my { and others} posts/opinions/'Altenative Views' werte subject to a DICTATE that they should NOT be CONsidered, as they were/are of NO VALUE.
Actually, I believe that ALL posts { well almost} / opinions/ 'Alternative Views'
ARE of VALUE
One does not HAVE to agree with ALL of them,
BUT
FREE SPEECH ... HAS benefits

[panama7] 06/3/2019 10:04

Lozan, you could well be right about CF holding in the hope of an upturn in the share price as they would have expected the trial to have started by now. Does anyone think if the trial had started 6 months ago and there had been no adverse events the share price would be 6p. These idiots that post that the share price doesn't matter talk out of their RRRS's.

[tosh123] 06/3/2019 09:52

C7,
the only way to have an open debate, is to allow it to happen, NOT stifle it.
The remedy to the LSE BB situation is clear, in fact its very clear, you need only look at various posts on here yesterday to obtain the evidence to substantiate that fact.
If you sleep with dogs, you'll get fleas.