Powerhouse Energy Share Discussion Threads

[moontheloon] 25/8/2022 07:34

https://uk.advfn.com/stock-market/AQSE/powerhouse-energy-PHE.GB/share-news/Powerhouse-Energy-Group-PLC-Half-year-Report/88911965

[cash2020] 24/8/2022 20:51

Other countries on Mr Habeck's hydrogen radar are Ireland, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Chile, Namibia and Australia.


Ireland???…interesting….

[skinny] 23/8/2022 16:23

A bit of PR :-

[allinforabigprofit] 23/8/2022 13:40

Already have given some light. Anyone that knows me is well aware I don't dish out criticism unless something in the works is dire wrong. Rewind the past Vatna and study. Poland, one of lowest energy prices in the EU. And the Poles don't think much of the Eu, nor someone else's money.Where are the Polish rich? When are they coming to fund? HuI ran away to America, rather than to their own door step? Think man, just for a moment take a step back.

[vatnabrekk] 23/8/2022 12:04

I'm sure you will be more than willing to enlighten us!

[allinforabigprofit] 23/8/2022 12:00

Proves that cannot take anything as fact front HUI, spin merchants. Really don't expect funding from anyone except those blind to the past. Who pays for all the Eu certification? Poland even if the money dropped today is at least two years away and they cannot role out a commercial verson before that? Vatna your comments are missing a lot of crucial data.

[vatnabrekk] 23/8/2022 11:53

So now we have confirmation that it is in fact PHE's technology that is being used in these projects, which hopefully means that we can stop the speculation that HUI have developed their own technology and stabbed PHE in the back!

"... this will formalise PHE's position within the project and the use of PHE's proprietary technology that generates hydrogen from non-recyclable waste plastics."

[vatnabrekk] 23/8/2022 11:44

What a load of rubbish Ken!! Absolutely no evidence, and it would make absolutely no sense anyway!

But keep at it, get the share price down as low as you can so I can buy some more at a cheaper price!

[cash2020] 23/8/2022 11:43

It happened the other day Vat, so you never know! MM’s communicating among themselves, that’s the rumour anyway. See what happens tomorrow morning.

[ken chung] 23/8/2022 11:39

Juju, I suspect worse to come. My suspicion now is that PHE may have to not only fund 50% of each SPV but also lend HUI money so HUI can fund it's share. If so, I also suspect such loans would be well below market interest rates and ultimately I doubt PHE would get a penny back (as with the money they learnt to W2T?) because at that point, I susoect the plan might be for PHE to takeover HUI, so giving complete control to HW at no cost to himself but wiping out PHE shareholders. All just my guesses and speculation of course, but it's what I would be aiming for if I were HW.

[vatnabrekk] 23/8/2022 11:37

Not sure I believe that theory!

[cash2020] 23/8/2022 11:03

One single share purchased. Another RNS logged for tomorrow I wonder?!

[cash2020] 23/8/2022 10:47

Exactly!!! 🤣

[vatnabrekk] 23/8/2022 10:43

If the share price drops significantly because of fear of placings/dilution, fine, that will be a better buying price for me to buy more. So come on trolls, do your worst!

[cash2020] 23/8/2022 10:38

Sounds like some good networking going on, hopefully will be very lucrative.

[juju44] 23/8/2022 10:16

In your dreams

[allinforabigprofit] 23/8/2022 10:15

Poland with one lowest energy prices in EU. Wait until they work out that the gate fee is sufficient they'll soon regulate the price of hydrogen won't be a profit at least non that make any serious funds. The license fee guaranteed an income now PHE, are at the whim of the population none too keen pay top price. All well commenting about W2T and how that boosted the share price but are you blind to the long term out come the share price is under two pence. And the main man who owned W2T, walked away and gave his cash another company HUI. Such a comedy of errors. Almost unreal.

[moontheloon] 23/8/2022 10:14

They gotta know news due to bolster price and get any placing away when it's due at the higher mark of previous. They don't sound in a rush or immediate need for it. So maybe we have protos before taking us higher than have to add when everyone happy that foak is achieved

[vatnabrekk] 23/8/2022 09:44

Graham, I agree that the share price is likely to drift for fear of a placing and dilution, but that fear is not always justified. If it's a placing just to keep the lights on, then fair enough, the value of the company will drop. But if it's a placing to provide funding for a lucrative project, the share price and MCAP ought to go up. As an example, see what happened when PHE acquired W2T. The doomsayers were all prophesying massive dilution and armageddon, and in fact the share price went up by a considerable multiple! Because the acquisition was the sensible thing to do at the time.

They may have given up on the licence fee if they are taking a 50% share in the SPV, but I will be disappointed if that's the case. It has taken PHE 10 years to develop the technology, so in my view they deserve to get a fee for it even if they are a part owner of the project.

[grahamwales] 23/8/2022 09:21

Only concern now is timing of the placing if and when it comes. Longer they leave it the lower the price imo. They are still burning cash even though it has reduced with less directors.

There is also no mention of any licence fee in Ireland or Poland so again has that been negotiated away completely.

[juju44] 23/8/2022 09:11

Never a brick.This outfit has just got to be ridiculous

[moontheloon] 23/8/2022 09:08

Does make sense as it's still supply of same tech as makes a difference when it's multiples like konin

[vatnabrekk] 23/8/2022 08:44

Now you're getting there, Graham!

The share of profits from each SPV will we far greater than the £500k (or E500k) fee, but of course PHE will have to fund their share of the SPVs. But that's normal business, you can't share the profits if you don't put in the capital!

My personal view is that PHE should still get a £500k pa technology fee from the SPV even though they are a shareholder in it, but probably that won't happen.

[grahamwales] 23/8/2022 08:29

Think I misread it first time round seems PHE don’t pay anything upfront and HUI will recover from financial close so.

Under the HoTs, PHE will not make any entry payments to HUI, but HUI will be allowed to recover at financial close of the project, its costs to date fixed at €250,000 with a €250,000 premium. The intent is for the ongoing development costs of both parties to be capitalised at financial close and recovered through an appropriate mechanism to be agreed.

[allinforabigprofit] 23/8/2022 08:25

50% of a regulated industry that is under threat from Govs, look at France EDF and shareholders don't see a profit the Gov now controls. The gravy train of high energy prices in Poland? Think the militant Poles going to put up high energy prices?