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[igoe104] 28/2/2008 15:51

The more details on id cards, the more chance of an igp involvement.

[237gmoney] 27/2/2008 15:17

I guess gemalto will be strong contenders having won the German Health Card....just a case of whether they use IGP or Bell ID....

[pyman] 27/2/2008 14:59

german govt making sensible move. Are they the first EU gov to set up such a scheme? who will win contract?

[igoe104] 27/2/2008 11:37

German ID card to allow pseudonyms
27 Feb 2008

The German Home Office has confirmed that a new electronic identity card for German citizens will incorporate the use of pseudonyms for secure web access.

According to the plans of the German Home Office, a credit card sized electronic identity card will be introduced in 2009. It will replace the larger, non-electronic identity cards currently in use. "Apart from the usual personal information, the electronic identity card will contain biometric information, in particular digital fingerprints of both index fingers, and additional information for facial recognition", says secretary of state August Hanning.

Hanning confirmed that the new identity card will contain a pseudonym function. In a leaked letter to Gisela Piltz, a Member of German Parliament for the Liberal Democrats (FDP), Hanning stated that the card could be used as a "passport for the internet" in the future. "The new identity card offers the possibility of an electronic identity proof for E-Government- and E-Business-applications", writes Hanning.

The central idea is that the individual card number is used to generate a pseudonym that cannot be reconverted mathematically into the original card number. This pseudonym could then be used to register at, for example, eBay, or any other web service that requires personal identification.

Using the pseudonym, the operator of a web service is guaranteed that the user is a 'real' person. The user, on the other hand, does not have to reveal their real name. Since the algorithms generate different pseudonyms for each web service, there is also no possibility whatsoever of tracking a person through the web.

Privacy advocates have long argued in favour of such a function on the new electronic identity cards and it seems now that they have won the case. But this development is not just of interest from a data privacy viewpoint; it could also have implications for health based smartcards.

A pseudonym function on a mandatory electronic identity card has the potential to dramatically increase the interest of citizens to buy smartcard readers for their home PCs. These smartcard readers could also be used for healthcare smartcards. This, in turn, would probably increase the willingness of industry to offer smartcard based e-health solutions, for example smartcard-based personal health records.

Convincing citizens (and doctors) to use smartcard readers to access personal medical data is one of the critical points of the German smartcard project. Although there is a law ruling that access to shared personal medical data should only be granted if both doctors and citizens use smartcards, the reality looks different. More and more regional electronic medical record-projects are coming up, and practically none use smartcards.

[igoe104] 26/2/2008 13:15

lots of opportunities for igp coming up.



ID cards for foreign nationals are not going to solve the problems of identity fraud and illegal working. All they will do is threaten the immigration status of hard working people who bring benefits to this country."


But Immigration Minister Liam Byrne said: "Britain's border security is currently undergoing the biggest shake-up in a generation, ensuring it stays among the toughest in the world.


"ID cards for foreign nationals will cement the triple ring of security protecting our shores, along with fingerprint visas abroad and a single border force here at home."

[237gmoney] 26/2/2008 13:04

I hold TAIH, had a look a long time ago igoe at SFT when you mentioned it on iii but didnt like it then as I knew they had the same problems as CYAN with the tax system, said so in iii if i remember....but if we could all look back in hindsight we would all be millionaires!!!

IGP will be busy with all the contracts going on just we need news of the Foreign national ID card with a nailed on contract to get this share really moving......another thales safesign contract before yr end would be nice but would be a bonus....

Keep up the posts igoe, you seem to be on a roll at the moment....lets hope IGP follow

[rambutan2] 26/2/2008 13:02

new piece...

[jailbird] 26/2/2008 12:54

OT,

what u guys think of HAIK, another chinese company.?.i'm holding a few of these

[igoe104] 26/2/2008 12:19

ALSO (jmc ) is a good way of getting into the chinese market, and spreading the risk. i hold these in a ISA.

THIS fund invests into china mobile, bank of china, and alot more big chinese companies.

ps wjcc.

i like gng, not looked at jhl yet.

[wjccghcc] 26/2/2008 12:12

Nope, not me. Only Chinese cos I have are GNG and JHL.

[igoe104] 26/2/2008 12:00

I reckon companies like sft,and taih could well be over £2 share in a 3-5 year period, they both have the right products.
but as we all know chinese stocks don,t come with-out risk. but some time in the future some of these chinese companies will have billion pound caps.

[jailbird] 26/2/2008 11:51

will do igoe..thanks..i have it on my monitor coz i think u or WJC mentioned it..
but ignored it as it fell down..maybe worth looking at the knocked down ones again.
A few are beginning to recover quite well.

[igoe104] 26/2/2008 11:43

LOL.

off topic.

(SFT) IS THE SHARE THATS DRIVING ME MAD at the moment jailbird, 55% of its market cap is cash in the bank, and i,m losing 50% of my investment at the moment 20k.

its well worth alook, divi annocement in april also. the problem is ITS had a slight delay with tax saving roll-out, and as we know in these markets its not good, i,m expecting an annoucement soon that everything is back on track soon,and a big jump in the s/p. so put it in your watch-list jailbird.

[jailbird] 26/2/2008 11:32

igoe,

i'm around reading and i'm sure others are too..so u r not going mad..

[igoe104] 26/2/2008 11:24

also worth a read.

[igoe104] 26/2/2008 11:19

Foreigners face fines over ID cards

Foreign nationals living in Britain who boycott the introduction of the biometric identity card later this year could face losing their right to stay, under proposals published yesterday.

A Home Office consultation paper also reveals that those who refuse to make or turn up to an appointment to scan their fingerprints and facial image will face a £250 fine, rising to £1,000 for persistent refusal. Those who fail to tell police if they lose their ID card will face a fine of £125.

The sanctions regime proposed for the compulsory ID card for foreign nationals, which comes into effect from November, is expected to be a pilot for the UK residents' ID cards to be introduced from next year.

The Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman, Chris Huhne, said: "This shows the kind of punitive measures that every British citizen can expect when ID cards are eventually rolled out nationally."

[igoe104] 25/2/2008 14:39

Students face 'blackmail' over Labour plans to push identity cards upon those applying for student loans, the Tories have warned. The information, which emerged in leaked Home Office documents on the 23rd January, details that anyone aged 16 or over will be 'expected' to hold a card in order to open a bank account or apply for a student loan from 2010. To obtain one of these biometric cards could cost anything up to £100.

The Guardian reported the documents to have said, "We should issue ID cards to young people to assist them as they open their first bank account, take out a student loan, etc."
However, the collection of biometric details such as fingerprints of those entering higher education has been labelled by Shadow Immigration Minister Damian Green as "straightforward blackmail" to reinforce "a failing policy."

The plans revealed that the ID cards will initially be introduced to foreign nationals during this year and will be available to UK citizens voluntarily from 2009 onwards. Also, from next year they will be issued to people in "positions of trust" for instance, airport staff.

In an interview with The Observer, the Prime Minister was quick to deny ID Cards as an "encroachment on civil liberties". He instead emphasised their potential effectiveness in combating illegal immigration, identity theft and alleviating other problems concerned with "identity management". Gordon Brown went on to state "we are not trying to store information about individuals that is not information already in passports".

What this means for a student entering into higher education in 2010 though, is still open to debate. With the majority of prospective students applying for loans and more still opening student bank accounts, the ID cards policy is unable to masquerade as "voluntary". Instead, it leaves little or no choice for future students.

[igoe104] 24/2/2008 19:40

New report examines future of smart cards integrated with biometrics
Thursday, February 21 2008
The integration of smart cards with biometrics will become a growing market, according to new analysis from Frost & Sullivan (www.smartcards.frost.com).

The report was cosponsored by APAC Integrated Smart Cards and Biometrics Markets. It found that the market for intgerated smart cards and biometric products earned $249.1 million in 2007 and is expected to reach $822.2 million by 2013. National ID projects are the most active revenue generators for the market, since all governments in the Asia Pacific are looking at implementing biometrics along with smart cards.

A few national ID projects such as those of India's and Malaysia's have already started using biometric verification, while Japan's and China's are still at the planning stages. With many more countries looking at implementing national ID projects, and biometrics being one of the prerequisites for these projects, the market has good reasons to feel optimistic.

The market growth rate in 2006 was 55.2 percent, despite many of the national ID projects not operating at full scale. Considering even corporate security, banking, and e-passport programs have not reached their full potential, the unit shipment growth is expected to rocket in spite of fluctuations in the growth rate

[igoe104] 21/2/2008 12:36

Airport workers are calling for consultation over plans to make them first in line for ID cards.

Unite, the union which represents workers in the civil air transport sector, wants "full consultation" with airport group BAA after it was revealed it is in talks with the Home Office over the plan.

And the union said it wants to make sure workers will not shoulder the projected £93 cost of the biometric card.

BAA confirmed it was talking to the Home Office about airport workers being among those required to have ID cards under the £5.4bn National Identity Register scheme from about 2009.

Brian Boyd, national officer for Unite, said: "We would be seeking assurances that the introduction of ID cards would in no way discriminate against existing or new BAA employees.

"We want the process to be transparent, they [the BAA] would have to be able to substantiate the reason why workers are not able to get employment or an ID card. If the cards are necessary for continued employment at BAA they also need to make sure that the costs do not fall on the employee."

A spokesman for BAA said: "We can confirm that we are in preliminary discussions with the Home Office."

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A spokesman for the Identity and Passport Service said it made sense to adopt an incremental approach to rolling out ID cards: "It is obviously right and logical that our first priority should be to consider where ID cards can be of greatest benefit to the security of the UK."

Foreign nationals coming to the UK will be given cards from the end of this year and the Home Office is expected to announce details within weeks of which category of migrants will be required to have a card.

The widespread rollout to UK citizens, known as "Borders phase II", is now slated to begin in 2012; two years later than indicated in an earlier government action plan.

[237gmoney] 20/2/2008 14:11

I see Oberthur are buying up another smartcard company....could easily have been IGP.....

[237gmoney] 20/2/2008 11:44

I see the dollar is now £1 = $1.94 and getting stronger....was £1 = $2.11 in the beginning of december.....with the twic money starting to come in as tesco's says, every little helps!!

[237gmoney] 20/2/2008 09:58

The mid price rises half a point yet the buy price rises 1p.....I guess 100k @ 33p will soon be a distant memory....a 5000 buy lifts the price and the second waive will come now...hopefully this Airport ID news makes the press and IGP get mentioned then this share price should be back above 40p before long....

[237gmoney] 20/2/2008 09:25

The Slovenian health card is 2million cards so IGP could cope with this I suppose....