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[bradwell] 12/11/2002 10:51

Dobcroft

What rubbish, try finding out what really happened in Glasgow before posting!!

[maxheadroom] 12/11/2002 10:46

I do think something should be done to address the difference in value of their pay due regional variances. Earning £23,000 p.a. in Kensington or Chelsea where average earning are perhaps £46,000 is quite different from the £23,000 picked up in areas like Hull, Halifax and Huddersfield where average earnings are below £20,000. I don't think this is just a fireman issue either.

On a different tack it is surely wrong to make our forces cover for the strikers using the antiquated equipment whilst the expensive kit stays in the stations. Lives of both users and their 'customers' will be lost due to this if the strike drags on long enough. Give our forces decent kit and within a couple of months they'll probably outperform their striking cousins.

[jaxaxe] 12/11/2002 09:39

Ive yet to meet anyone that is totally sympatetic to the fire workers cause,and quite frankly any semblance of sympathy that they had has now gone up in smoke.Look at their slogon...because we`re worth it...which egotistical twerp thought up that little gem - pressumably that lunatic shop steward in the Grattons suit.
The firemen have had a cosy ride over the years - jobs for the boys-keeping out the females and ethnic minorities..(check the figures)...when did you ever see a black fireman or see a women on the fire engine...Ive never seen one and I walk past the fire station every day.
The retained firemen believe that the strikes are wrong and are refusing to join the the full timers in their industrial action;one was on sky earlier today saying it was his job to save lives not lose them.....and these retained firemen are held in contempt by the full timers...and the FBU.
The retainers are not in the same union as the fulltimers they have their own smaller but much more liberal union and its this union that will eventually help in breaking down the old boy network that presently exists in the fire service - and the sooner the better.
The job of fireman should be a vocation and not just a run of the mill job.The Nurses dont join the nursing profession for the wage packet - and niether should recruits to the fire service.....if its just money that they want then they are quite obviously in the wrong job......perhaps one of the other 46 applicants that are queuing for each of the current fire positions should be put on a government course ready to fill the breech of the gaps left by the strikers. - Before each new fire man is given the honour of serving the public he should be made aware that the fire service is a vocation and not just a job...if its just money and the thought of joining a band of fellow men who have cushy numbers then the fire service isnt for you..because its going to change,the governments had enough of the fbu and so have the the retainers and more importantly so have the public !
Jack Levi.

[6million dollarman] 12/11/2002 02:46

Surely people cannot have forgotten Labour dropping the highest rate of tax from 60% to 40% to help there buddies at the top, pay there mortgages. Instant 20% pay rise for top earners. Not only do a lot of directors get paid vast amounts of money for just turning up, But the businesses they run often pay for there travel,food,car & fuel etc etc and do remember the free shares they aquire which helps to decrease the tax burden even further. Nurses are currently leaving good old UK for the USA as the benefits are probably worth double what the uk pays. Our worst enemys can often be the closest people to who we associate with. Seems to me the HM Goverment has again outwitted the man on the street once again DYOR.

Labours taxes have done nothing except fill a few consultants and managers pockets and exactly what have they done to improve services. More tax rises next year and more Bureaucracy.
I can understand why some are looking to cushion the blow now. Being greedy seems to be the norm these days Which in affect we all are guilty of.
which is worse - 1/ Being underpaid and greedy
or 2/ Being overpaid and greedy

The gov can find plenty of money and homes for the thousands of asylum seekers.
but cannot afford to put cash into the some public sector workers pockets !

[fast piayer] 12/11/2002 01:01

GoodyCALL ..GOODYCALL GOOOOOOOOODYCALL GO TO BED!!!!!!!!!!
P....L E A S E G O TO BED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jaxaxe] 12/11/2002 00:44

Sparky,boon,
11% a very generous offer,Im sure you will be exceedingly pleased to take it!
Jax.

[techno1] 11/11/2002 23:57

Go to bed now, you,ve got school tomorrow. LOL

[fast piayer] 11/11/2002 23:48

TECHNO IDIOT is this better

[daddy warbucks] 11/11/2002 23:46

Sparky

I asked some time ago if the Union had an exit strategy for the mess they were getting themselves in. John Prescott came to your rescue and gave you that opportunity.

I would urge all firemen to think about what they are doing and at the talks tomorrow be magnanimous and accept what is offered. If you go on strike what is left? Victory, which I doubt or defeat which could set you and your colleagues back many years.

[techno1] 11/11/2002 23:45

Fast,
Why the silly big lettering?
Get a life!

[fast piayer] 11/11/2002 23:42

jaxaxes mum makes an elephant look lame when it comes to farting full blast BBUUUTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!GOOD LUCK TO THE FIREMAN

[techno1] 11/11/2002 23:39

Very good, Fast, how long to think that one up?
What do you see when you look in the mirror? LOL!

[fast piayer] 11/11/2002 23:35

jaxaxes mum makes an elephant look lame when it comes to farting full blast but........and i say but

TECHNOS 1'S VERY OLD MUM CAN SING USEING HER FANNY LIPS

[fast piayer] 11/11/2002 23:28

jaxaxes mum makes an elephant look lame when it comes to farting full blast but TECHNO 1 and his saggy wife reckon that village idiot SANCS wife
can fart louder

[fast piayer] 11/11/2002 23:26

jaxaxes mum makes an elephant look lame when it comes to farting full blast

[sanc] 11/11/2002 23:25

POSTED THIS ON THE OTHER FIRE THREAD BUT POSTING IT HERE AS WELL BECAUSE THIS IS HOW STUPID STRIKING IS!!

DO NOT AGREE WITH GOING ON STRIKE AT ALL!!!!!!
YOU ARE HERE TO DO A PUBLIC SERVICE - IT WAS YOUR CHOICE TO BECOME A FIRE FIGHTER, THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD DO!
YES YOU NEED A PAY RISE BUT PUTTING THE PUBLIC AT RISK BECAUSE OF A STRIKE IS WRONG.
ITS JUST LIKE A NURSE STANDING BY A PATIENTS BED AND SAYING 'SORRY I CAN'T TREAT YOU BECAUSE I WANT MORE MONEY' - THATS HOW STUPID A STRIKE SOUNDS..!

STRIKING IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY OF DOING THIS!!

[techno1] 11/11/2002 23:24

Jax
You have done the public a great service by continually exposing these
self-serving charlatans.