Crawshaw Share Discussion Threads

[evil_doctor_facilier] 14/9/2016 16:00

eburne, me dopey LOL ? Your post above relates to someone designated as 'inside'. I am not designated 'inside' Crawshaw!

[mr hangman] 14/9/2016 15:59

No wonder the NHS is in such a state

[eburne1960] 14/9/2016 15:56

Read carefully, then you can apologise o dopey doctor....

[eburne1960] 14/9/2016 15:54

Here you are dopey:

Insider dealing has been a criminal offence since 1985 and is currently set out in Part V of the Criminal Justice Act 1993. It continues, though, to be a tricky area. The FSA believes that professional insider dealing rings as well as rogue individuals exist within the City and are regularly trading on inside information not available to the rest of the market. The regulator has increased its enforcement work in recent years, but successful prosecutions are by no means straightforward.

The first legislation to create a level playing field for all investors proved ineffective. Since then, efforts have been made to tighten up the law and close the loopholes, but there remains a perception that some ‘wrongdoers217; continue to escape conviction.

The attempt to come up with effective legislation in this difficult area means the offence is a complex one to describe; what follows should be taken only as a summary of the main elements. References are made to shares, but the legislation also covers other company securities such as warrants, debentures, futures and contracts for differences.

A person will commit the criminal offence of insider dealing if they have inside information and:
that information is price-sensitive in relation to shares;
they deal in those shares, or encourage someone else to deal in those shares or pass inside information to another person;
the dealing takes place on a regulated market or through a professional intermediary such as a broker. (Included in the definition of a regulated market are exchanges elsewhere in the EU and some other overseas markets.)

‘Inside information’ has the same meaning described in OUT-LAW's guide on Breach of disclosure obligations, namely information relating to a particular company that would, if published, be likely to have a significant effect on the price of shares in the company. It will not necessarily be about the company the insider works for: it might be about a supplier or a competitor – for example, news of the winning or loss of a big contract.

The insider will not commit the offence if they pass on general information about the market a company operates in, however confidential it might be. A director of a house building company might be liable if they give their dentist the unpublished information that group sales were significantly ahead of market expectations; but not if they disclose advance knowledge of a rise in mortgage rates.

[evil_doctor_facilier] 14/9/2016 15:53

Skinny can you re-post on this thread from your link the text that you believe prove me a not designated as inside at Craw would be committing an offense posting information on a Bulletin board Please.

Many thanks in advance.

[mr hangman] 14/9/2016 15:49

Think there is a junior Doctor who needs to read his A-Z book of investing

[evil_doctor_facilier] 14/9/2016 15:40

Actually you are wrong! But dont feel bad 95% of other misinformed morons think that as well.
Only the person trading it is doing anything illegal.
hope this helps.

[eburne1960] 14/9/2016 15:38

Actually evil, it's illegal to pass on price sensitive information, you don't have to even deal on it - probably best not to lecture people on greenness!!!!

[mr hangman] 14/9/2016 15:37

Who would of thought a good old fashioned Butchers, would of brought in such a nasty troll, that's normally reserved for the Oil/Tech threads

[evil_doctor_facilier] 14/9/2016 15:34

Amazing, he attacks me without any reason whatsoever with unfounded bile and then suggest he will stop replying.
How polite.

[hydrus] 14/9/2016 15:32

I understand that point fully. I have no idea whether you or any associates have benefited from any information. I note there was quite a lot of selling before you posted your comments about sales dropping. Anyway no point in clogging up the board with this I'll stop replying now.

[evil_doctor_facilier] 14/9/2016 15:31

if you stayed on one alias, it would be helpful for the speed of your reply!

[mr hangman] 14/9/2016 15:30

Carry on the good work Dr, only hold a few, but could do with alot more cheaper

[evil_doctor_facilier] 14/9/2016 15:26

You simply have no idea what you are talking about! Information gained does not suggest it's 100% inside does it?

One last point for you. Even if i had seen the results (I have not) and posted them, that would not be illegal at all.
it would only be illegal to trade on that information.
you really are showing your greenness at this game here, quite embarrassing!

[hydrus] 14/9/2016 15:24

Whether you have seen them or just been told about sales is irrelevant

[evil_doctor_facilier] 14/9/2016 15:22

Quite simply, where did i claim to have seen any sales figures from the head office?

If you are just going to make it up as you go along, i may as well exchange posts with a squirrel!

Time will tell, i have a felling you will not be posting here on the next update.

[hydrus] 14/9/2016 15:21

You said that you had heard from Crawshaws headquarters directly that sales are sluggish and you expect a 5% drop in LFL sales. There has been no trading statement. I would be surprised if someone had leaked that kind of information. If you think it would be acceptable for that exchange of knowledge to take place then we differ in our understanding of regulations.I didn't suggest you personally had benefited from the price action but someone could have.

[evil_doctor_facilier] 14/9/2016 15:21

Sorry Hangman, my mistake, i didn't realise is this was the Crawshaw fan club, i mistakenly believed it was a bulletin board for discussion?

Has my little post hurt your feelings, has someone cast doubt on your little baby share....arrr bless....

[mr hangman] 14/9/2016 15:17

Not really sure, why our Doctor is hanging around

[evil_doctor_facilier] 14/9/2016 15:13

Hydus, a heads up for you. Usually when you are quoting people in a post it is customary that they actually said the thing you claim, rather than you just fabricating it!

I shall return on the next update to continue this conversation with you.
Hydrus
14 Sep '16 - 13:18 - 4039 of 4044 0 1
Hmm as it would be illegal for someone to have insight into results before they are released my suspicion is this a short term bear raid fuelled by malicious rumour. I don't believe someone would be so stupid and expose themselves to legal action if they really had genuine insight.

[hydrus] 14/9/2016 15:04

'Before you post such unfounded statements that remain faithful to your own interpretation of events'Oh the irony

[evil_doctor_facilier] 14/9/2016 14:59

Well surprisingly enough, as already stated by myself, it was not intended as advice. Moreover, unlike your never ending bearish posts and predictions of share price collapse and doom at TRP.
Or is your 'faux' outrage on fair comments, just selective to stocks you own?

[mr hangman] 14/9/2016 14:52

I find a apple a day keeps me healthy & wealthy, sometime's i find it best not to
listen to one's doctor

[evil_doctor_facilier] 14/9/2016 14:36

Before you post such unfounded statements that remain faithful to your own interpretation of events Hydus, maybe you should check if it is possible to even short Crawshaw. Without this being so,it would leave your post looking somewhat exposed to the accusation from normal minded people, that you are ill informed and your theory vacuous!