Aviva Share Discussion Threads

[w1ndjammer] 13/3/2020 14:47

COVID-19 will soon become normalised as is slips from the front pages,

people will get bored with keep hearing the BBC trying to ramp it up.

we will just learn to live with it.

normal flue kills the infirm in their thousands every year usually

gets put down to pneumonia on the death cert.

WJ.

[fenners66] 13/3/2020 14:26

bothdavis
13 Mar '20 - 13:35 - 1271 of 1276

"The death rate from covid-19 is less than 1%, it has been stated. Where are the figures for 22% please?"

Go to Worldometer and look at the update page. Subtract China and voila

[eeza] 13/3/2020 13:52

Hosede & fenners - perfect for a blind date.

[123trev] 13/3/2020 13:42

Pmsl there are certain people and organisations that made billions because of this and not just now in the future it was the rather late ten year cull.

[essentialinvestor] 13/3/2020 13:37

Hosede made 50k yesterday! Which I would fully believe btw. He's a Swiss resident.

[123trev] 13/3/2020 13:37

The virus attack’s the old mainly with medical complications so the figures are obscure! One of the key virologists to the government and advisors would like all old people moved to a separate part of the country and quarantined and everyone else aloud to catch the virus helping immunity obviously that’s not practical but in an ideal world that’s what he would like to do.

[bothdavis] 13/3/2020 13:35

The death rate from covid-19 is less than 1%, it has been stated. Where are the figures for 22% please?

[eeza] 13/3/2020 13:28

Hosede in drag !!

[fenners66] 13/3/2020 13:27

Thanks EI.
I seem to have found a niche on reading results and RNS's and being bearish.
One problem , I have not shorted anything !
Just looking for yield and discarding the ones I thought were weak!

[fenners66] 13/3/2020 13:17

Just took a look at the C19 data.

If you exclude China recoveries and deaths - on the basis that the published figures may include "mistakes"

Then the ROW death / (death + recoveries) rate is..... 22%

That is serious and needs explanation.

[123trev] 13/3/2020 13:13

The U.K. won’t go into lockdown they understand that’s a disaster move.

[dr biotech] 13/3/2020 13:09

I've started to buy now. I have 120-150k to invest and I'm doing 3k a day (typically I've always invested around 5k. Initially I was hoping to get yields of 8% but now it looks like I will average a bit higher, though I fully expect some to cut their payouts.

Not sure if we have reached the bottom, but I think in 2-3 years we will be back around the 7500 level. Going to be some hard times ahead in the next few months though.

[smurfy2001] 13/3/2020 13:07

If the UK goes into lockdown like Italy what will happen to the FTSE100?

[123trev] 13/3/2020 13:01

Lol, probably seen the bottom now and the start of the next bull run obviously with some ups and downs. The solution to all this is to print or digitally manufacture the right amount of money the market is seen to require you see anything can be solved with a bottomless pit of cash. Obviously there will be casualties along the way but this ain’t one of them.

[essentialinvestor] 13/3/2020 12:56

Hi Adam, it's always a difficult one. What I'd be more comfortable saying fwiw, is by yesterday afternoon some prices on a longer term view looked attractive - well unless we are heading for some cataclysmic 1930's style event, which personally don't see - however it's always a case of DYOR
and very few saw this coming. If I had to bet, then a washout leg lower for wider equity markets.

[spud] 13/3/2020 12:56

I must admit, as a % of my holdings, I've bought very little. I'm fully expecting to see a revisit to the lows before a slow u shaped recovery over 12-18 months.

spud

[smurfy2001] 13/3/2020 12:53

I'm still bearish. The virus is going to get worse these "bear" rallies are normal.

[adamb1978] 13/3/2020 12:51

I think we'll get below 5000 - only briefly, but I'm expecting to see the FTSE get into the 4500-5000 range at some point. Time will tell!

[tfergi] 13/3/2020 12:48

This is true, everyone thinking we will drop below 5000 is almost to easy isn't it. One thing about the stock market is that it rarely does what is expected

[adamb1978] 13/3/2020 12:46

EssentialInvestor - I agree. There's loads of companies which still look pricey based on expected growth. That said, I expect the earnings estimates are wrong and then the share prices will come off, but to a greater extent

[essentialinvestor] 13/3/2020 12:43

I could compile s list within a few seconds of LSE listed equities that still
appear expensive, will try not to mention specific names as don't want to cause offence.

[essentialinvestor] 13/3/2020 12:31

It may well happen, we got close in any case. However, it's now a consensus call,
I'm always wary of consensus, it's often wrong.

[tfergi] 13/3/2020 12:29

I agree, I think the FTSE will go under 5000 during the course of this bear market.Yes a few good companies, such as DGE not at 2018 lows - that will be a screaming buy if it falls below that level

[lako42] 13/3/2020 11:44

We are here, but surprisingly many stocks still trading above those levels.

Despite the big drop I still think there is more scope for many stocks to drop further.