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[superg1] 04/4/2017 08:23

The Henderson news actually says it is a transfer so Henderson are still fully in just a change of fund name going on.

[superg1] 04/4/2017 08:21

I see there is a bit of action on most graphene AIMs today. Probably due to the BBC.

I do hope AGM have sorted their tech but I keep hearing the opposite. The grapevine is deep. I want AGM to work for the sale of PIs but I fear it's a dud lifestyle company.

You can't argue with my 2 week 24 hour run figures re them, it was shockingly poor.

I'm hoping for PIs sale this year they report they have sorted the tech to produce graphene.

I see one holder is going on about it doesn't matter if their costs are £1000 per gram as there is such a demand. That shows just how seriously wrong some get it.

BTW just by adding some more kit VRS could sail past AGMs capacity but the difference would be the it's actual capacity that would produce that amount.

[john henry] 04/4/2017 08:19

If Henderson have stopped selling then 30p should be achieved quite quickly.

[superg1] 04/4/2017 08:15

Correction

Blimey the grapevine works quickly that's why I like these BBs and the network of folk. Suggestion that Henderson is a change of name re funds. It did seem like too big a supply compared to the action.

[darkdogs] 04/4/2017 08:15

Well done NR, looks like we needed those New Investors after all, my bad

[superg1] 04/4/2017 08:12

Well that was the supply then.

Henderson holdings were split 3 ways with the strathclyde pension fund holding a big chunk so it seems that pension fund wanted to sell at least as they had 10% plus I believe.

Perhaps too tempting on the double your money on the 10p raise.

[shavian] 04/4/2017 08:08

RNS out. Henderson sold down from 21% to under 5% in March. Crazy timing! Is that what took us back down to 15p?

[superg1] 04/4/2017 08:03

The KLF

I've not looked into it, but if you take the VRS IP that went from Ulster into 2D tech in the UOM then out to VRS on the acquisition.

What VRS had originally from that IP has been materially tweaked since to give much better yields.

I saw one article suggesting Lockheed Martin has tied up all the water filter graphene patents which is highly unlikely

I imagine there are 100's that conflict but until there is a big revenues attached to some of them for many years then perhaps the conflict challenges will start to appear and themselves take years.

The trick is for now being able to produce something that works and that what VRS have. Patents are useless if it's not viable.

[shavian] 04/4/2017 07:44

Blimey, 10 posts before 0730 today. How exciting!

[theklf] 04/4/2017 07:35

sg any idea why UoM are not in this list of major Institutions with patents on graphene related ideas ?

Fig 11 pg 17

[handygandhi] 04/4/2017 07:32

James Macleod, explained how the photograph came about: "We are working to create conductive inks for printing flexible electronics and are currently focused on optimising our recipe for use in different printing methods and for printing onto different surfaces. This was the first time we had used alcohol to create our ink and I was struck by how mesmerising it looked while mixing."

[superg1] 04/4/2017 07:31

Graphene has it's hype run when it was first found but back then they were talking single sheets and the blue sky bendy phones.

In reality it GNPs, GO and RGO which are derivatives of those which are here and now and starting to offer options for significant impact in may industries.

So it seems the graphene hype is starting again but this time there are products being produced and a number of huge industries and companies are in the game looking to develop it's use.

[redchef] 04/4/2017 07:18

Yet another mention for Graphene on BBC Breakfast this morning. Two consecutive days for unrelated stories. Someone is executing a very cleverly planned marketing campaign IMHO :)

[theklf] 04/4/2017 07:15

These Australian companies / Universities have some sort of 'technology readiness level' scales which seems a useful idea for scaling where all these different projects are in the actual development commercialisation process



The new wastewater filtration products will use graphene oxide with the aim to dramatically improve performance and reduce current energy use.
The research and development team behind the project recently won funding through the Australian Government’s Cooperative Research Centres Projects (CRC-P) program and aim to deliver working products in the next two to three years.
The aim is to use the CRC-P funding to support the delivery of low energy, continuous flow processes for the water and wastewater treatment market.
Hailed as a wonder-material, graphene is a lattice of carbon atoms so thin it’s considered to be two-dimensional, providing incredible performance characteristics and range of potential applications.
Lead researcher Associate Professor Mainak Majumder from Monash University and his team perfected a technique in 2016 that could create graphene filters on an industrial scale.
“Graphene has special properties which could disrupt current commercial filtration techniques and significantly reduce the energy required to filter wastewater,” he said.
Peter Voigt, executive director at Clean TeQ, said: “We plan to be the first to take this breakthrough technology to market in Australia and in developing countries such as China, India, South America and South Africa, where access to clean freshwater is a significant issue.”

[theklf] 04/4/2017 06:57

Note also this project from existing membrane maker

Graphene based deionization on board the EU Flagship
The billion-euro Graphene Flagship project of the European Commission doubled in size this June. The expansion brought Spain to the second place by the number of Flagship partners, just below Germany and Italy which share the first place as countries with most project participants. Among the freshly accepted projects is GRAPHESALT, “Graphene based capacitive deionization for an energy efficient desalination system”. GRAPHESALT was proposed by the Spanish research organization Tecnalia and the French membrane maker SME Polymem.

GRAPHESALT is one of 21 projects selected from a total of 218 proposals submitted. It focuses on the development of a water desalination system based on a technique called capacitive deionization (CDI).

[superg1] 04/4/2017 06:57

The KLF

If you check the old paper it was working at 100 bar and water going through in metres per second. Obviously 4/5 years on they have taken it a step further.

It is seen as as a very big opportunity for graphene to transform the desalination market.

[superg1] 04/4/2017 06:32

I tried to get the report but it's £99.

With a bit of digging mourned here is the original report/news on the topic.

[superg1] 04/4/2017 06:24

Yes Shavian it seems to be very popular. It's a big topic in the Goldman sacks report.

Now I'm wondering whose GNPs they used at the UOM considering their close link with Versarien and as shareholders.

I did note this bit too

He told BBC News: "As an ink or solution, we can compose it on a substrate or porous material. Then we can use it as a membrane."

VRS do produce and sell graphene oxide (GO)

[shavian] 04/4/2017 06:03

NGI's progress with a graphene membrane for water filtration and desalination,as posted on the thread yesterday, now seems to have caught the headlines. As I write (0530) It is now the top trending item on the BBC website, and has just been mentioned both on the World Service news and Wake up to Money on Five Live.

Edit at 0603: this is just being explained on the Today programme's headlines by BBC correspondent Paul Rincon. UoM being credited for the development, but the reporter says that "further development will be required before the invention 'leaps out of the lab' into commercial use".

Go for it Neill!

[shavian] 03/4/2017 20:51

I much prefer the Beeb's version to that of the Daily Wail:



Dr Devanthan reckons that more work is needed to learn how to produce GO particles at low cost in order to exploit graphene technologies for desalination. Have we got news for him!

This would seem to be yet another wonderful area for VRS to help to save the world

[superg1] 03/4/2017 19:37

I see that's on the BBC site too today.

At the show I did mention to some that Lockheed Martin are very interested in such technology.

I only say such things if there is something to back it up. They are a partner of the NGI and now the topic is recent news note the below.

[fatherjack2] 03/4/2017 18:29

hxxps://eandt.theiet.org/content/articles/2017/04/graphene-sieve-used-to-filter-seawater-and-create-drinkable-water/