Royal Bank Of Scotland Share Discussion Threads

[smurfy2001] 08/9/2017 12:04

Provident Financial now other bell weathers such as Safestyle suffering big falls in their stock prices.

[chinese investor] 08/9/2017 10:35

They have treated us PIs very badly.

[g1945] 08/9/2017 10:33

No change there then!

[ramco] 08/9/2017 10:07

blusteradjuster..if only it was just the UK consumer..!!

[blusteradjuster] 08/9/2017 09:58

Safestyle and Greene King warn.

The UK consumer is exhausted - can't see miners holding the FTSE indexes up.

Financials certainly will not.

[ramco] 08/9/2017 09:52

yep!! it's panned out as we envisioned and stated ten odd years ago even in the order by which countries would succumb do we get a prize?...lol..;)

[leedskier] 08/9/2017 09:44

Even the UK mid-cap market is not immune from these predatory computer driven moves.

[leedskier] 08/9/2017 09:39

Back in 2010, I swing traded XTA -- it was an excellent swing trade, then it all changed. Almost overnight predictable moves over a period of days were replaced by violent intraday moves as -- I guess -- the computer algos reacted in a nano second to any hint of bad news emerging from the US data prints at 1.30pm.

[ramco] 08/9/2017 09:32

Not according to returns reports...certainly not doing well...;)

the majority that is..the biggest banks that made the largest technology and human investments are hoovering everything up...

[ramco] 08/9/2017 09:30

Bloomberg onfirmed as much today, when looking at another divergence between quant funds and traditional, discretionary managers: "systematic strategies have barely budged from near-record participation in U.S. stocks. Meanwhile, fundamental equity long-short managers can’t afford to be anything but picky, considering the market’s narrow leadership. The result: the largest gap on record between humans’ and computers’ gross exposure to U.S. equities, data compiled by Credit Suisse Group AG show.”

[leedskier] 08/9/2017 09:26

In an age where driverless cars are being introduced, I guess having driverless stock markets is to be expected. But is anyone in the City making any money in this algo computer driven market?

[chinese investor] 08/9/2017 09:25

Still not a word from RBOS Shareholders Action Group !

[ramco] 08/9/2017 09:24

“Two days ago, JPM's head quant made a striking observation: "Passive and Quantitative investors now account for ~60% of equity assets (vs. less than 30% a decade ago). We estimate that only ~10% of trading volumes originates from fundamental discretionary traders." In short, markets are now "a quant's world", with carbon-based traders looking like a slow anachronism from a bygone era

[leedskier] 08/9/2017 09:20

maxk is quite right. Free & easy money is not refreshing the parts where it is needed, at least not in the UK.

Sure it has driven up house prices, but done little to boost investment.

Why is that?

Because it is pointless investing in new products and production, if the consumers have less money to spend, because their incomes are being hit by spiralling inflation in utility and public transport costs, whilst their incomes are being pegged down by a Government led policy of austerity.

Theresa May argues -- and probably with some force -- that cutting EU migration will force up earnings.

Will that apply to public sector jobs too/

Will HMG -- the largest employer in the UK -- raise earnings above inflation?

[leedskier] 08/9/2017 09:13

Austerity prices ....


Daily Mirror publisher in talks to buy Express and Star for £130m

[leedskier] 08/9/2017 08:40

The one thing that the financial crisis proved is that investment banking
and retail/commercial banking needed to be separated.

That means that "free banking services" needs to be replaced by the introduction of a charging system. How that would work in practice remains to be seen, but it is a system which operates overseas.

[leedskier] 08/9/2017 08:33

Volatility ...

[leedskier] 08/9/2017 08:30

7,377.65 -19.33 (-0.26%)

[maxk] 08/9/2017 08:07

They are still charging 16-29% on credit cards: As usual, the free and easy money isn't reaching the parts it's supposed to refresh.

[leedskier] 08/9/2017 07:54

The UK blue chip index closed up 0.6 percent at 7396.98 points on Thursday
with most sectors in positive territory with the exception of financial stocks,
which suffered, alongside the rest of their European peers, after the European
central bank reaffirmed its ultra-easy policy stance.


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Free and easy money may be good for the general public, but it does not help banks.

[leedskier] 08/9/2017 07:08

The British Virgin Islands flattened.

[leedskier] 08/9/2017 06:44

David Buik‏
@truemagic68

European opening calls update courtesy of CMC MARKETS -

FTSE100 -4 at 7,393,

DAX +10 at 12,306,

CAC40 unchanged at 5,114

at 6.10am