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[kemche] 26/3/2024 12:09

"Likewise when I said the licence agreements were pathetic it does not mean I think the licence agreements are pathetic I was parodying those who thought the £25k licence agreements are pathetic."

Pathetic.

[pwhite73] 26/3/2024 12:03

To parody is to satirically imitate.

For example if I said to you 'Mike Tyson was a hopeless boxer'. You might parody me by repeating - 'Mike Tyson was a hopeless boxer'. It does not mean you also think Mike Tyson is a hopeless boxer on the contrary you probably think he was a great boxer.

Likewise when I said the licence agreements were pathetic it does not mean I think the licence agreements are pathetic I was parodying those who thought the £25k licence agreements are pathetic.

Speak Later

[1retirement] 26/3/2024 11:42

That's exactly what you said sir,"the company deliberately put out two pathetic licencing agreements to pump the share price up."Those are your words, not mine.

[pwhite73] 26/3/2024 11:15

I never said they were pathetic. The licences are extremely important for the company and a turning point.

I was parodying the argument they launched the placing on the back of £25k licencing agreements.

[1retirement] 26/3/2024 11:09

Thank you for also agreeing that the two licencing agreements were pathetic. You seem to be learning this morning, every day is a school day for you in AIM. Well done chap.

[festario] 26/3/2024 11:06

PWhite, just stop it, you are embarrassing yourself.

[1retirement] 26/3/2024 10:49

Thank you for agreeing with me.

[squire007] 26/3/2024 10:12

Just look at the volume traded before each rns and tell me how it seems to you :-)) ... the graph is hilarious and :-0

[pwhite73] 26/3/2024 10:05

1retirement - "Every man and their dog knew this placing was coming."

That might be because the company held a GM on 10/01/2024 and received authorisation to issue another 900 million shares. The company also told you in many RNS announcements it still required funding in the short and long term. The latest one below.

RNS 11/03/24 - "The Company continues to actively seek additional short and longer term funding solutions to support its turnaround strategy."

[1retirement] 26/3/2024 09:34

Every man and their dog knew this placing was coming. A number of posters on here had been saying it for weeks. We did not know an exact date but it was as clear as day one was needed and coming.

[1retirement] 26/3/2024 09:32

Nope, he's just showing himself to be a bit thick on these matters.

[1retirement] 26/3/2024 09:30

New to AIM sir?

[wheeze] 26/3/2024 08:58

Not just this govt countbasie1 - politicians of all shades are culpable. They turn a blind eye to a range of insider trading as long as the big players fund their activities. I cannot think of any other reason for this sordid state of affairs. Pension funds longer invest in small British companies for a reason. The scandalous trades in Nanoco last January should be a case study. Forward selling with inside knowledge.

[pwhite73] 26/3/2024 08:54

countbasie1 - It's not just CIZ. CPX has recently announced a ghastly placing, 2 billion shares issued at 0.10p. Nobody saw it coming. Indeed they all thought a Dr Cooley a strategic investor who took a 3% stake was going to refinance the company.

[pwhite73] 26/3/2024 08:51

Festario - "As a PI you can see an impending placing a mile off, and I usually sell into them. But I never learn on certain companies, and often get caught out with a 50% hit."

We can all see placings a mile off on companies we are not invested in. We can also see suspensions and administrations a mile off on companies we are not invested in.

The trouble is we can never see any of this in companies we are invested that's why we all lose our money.

Unless they are party to the placing no PI can tell when a placing is coming.

[countbasie1] 26/3/2024 08:44

WheezePerhaps you are right. But it shouldn't be up to PIs. We should exist in a well ordered society with well regulated markets. But this Govt are such a bunch of wide boy chancers that they encourage this financial criminal behaviour with their indifference.

[countbasie1] 26/3/2024 08:40

FestarioIt just happened with CIZ. Classic.

[tini5] 26/3/2024 08:40

Bloody hell I find myself agreeing with Fest. This truly is the end times!

[pwhite73] 26/3/2024 07:50

Festario - "I have been caught out by this countless times"

But why are you caught out countless times when you have been investing for decades? The reason why you are caught out is because there is no pump and placing pattern to recognise. If there was you would see it coming a mile away after so many years of investing.

Placings come totally out of the blue and indeed they are one of the most guarded secrets on the markets.

If private investors knew placings were on the way the entire AIM market would collapse.

Placings can come after good news. Placings can come after bad news. Placings can come after a share price has risen. Placings can come after a share price has fallen. Placings can come after contracts are signed. Placings can come after contracts are terminated. Placings can come before results. Placings can come after results.

There is no artificial pump to get away with a placing.

[wheeze] 26/3/2024 07:34

I agree Festario, it is high time small investors took a stand against rampant corrupt practices on AIM. Suggest we compile a list which we could use individually to write in to the SFA. There has been a wall of short money thrown at struggling companies often with carefully choreographed social media posts by TW@ and the like to drive share prices down. We need a GameStop moment on AIM to teach the cowboys a lesson. Market makers likely complicit in these shenanigans

[festario] 26/3/2024 01:46

PWhite, if you ever had even the slightest shred of credibility left around here, you lost it the moment you said that share prices are not pumped prior to placings. I can't remember a placing on AIM that wasn't off the back of an artificially inflated share price.I have been caught out by this countless times, and it's routine in almost every equity on the market. They are getting away with it more and more on the main market too, I have recently discovered to my cost. I'm utterly sick of it, and for you to say it doesn't happen makes me think you are either a bent broker, or simply even more naive than you have ever displayed.

[pwhite73] 25/3/2024 23:25

Where was the classic pump and dump for the placings on the 19/01/24, 08/11/23, 14/07/23 and 15/03/24?

That's your homework for the night.