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[philbyk144] 31/3/2024 12:15

You have remarkable faith in the honours system that has honoured Benito Mussolini, Robert Mugabe, Saville and Rolf Harris along with many other seedy, crooked characters.

[kemche] 31/3/2024 10:09

£1.80 to one tenth of a pee is a mere flesh wound. "Get back here. I'll bite your ankle off!".

VRS has been at a complete standstill for far longer than that.

[pwhite73] 31/3/2024 09:24

Having failed to predict the demise of VRS TW now resorts to reporting them for accounts that covered the Covid years March 21 - September 22. Does he really think the FRC got nothing better to do than investigate accounts covering a period when the world was at a complete standstill.

[sloppyjoe2] 31/3/2024 00:15

The walls are closing in. Let's just hope that all those responsible are held to account. Legally. Financially. Reputationally. Hard to imagine that anyone involved in this car crash is going to walk away unscathed...

[verger] 30/3/2024 14:08

Happy Easter everyone.

[1manchild] 30/3/2024 11:49

PWhite - 'My original statement - "Thanuja Galhena and Mayank Gautam also work for Versarien" is correct.'

It is not correct and your analogies of Deliveroo and Barrett are nonesense. Thanuja definitely does not work for and is not employed by Versarien. I asked a civil service friend who said she would not be able to show bias and work for the government in a department that promotes exports for uk all companies unless she was a loaned sector specialist or on a secondment, which unless you know differently is not the case. Having an academic interest at Cambridge or anywhere else is different as this would no doubt be encouraged as part of L&D. As for Mayank, again it is clear that he works for and is employed by MBDA in the private sector and they are not going to let him work for or be employed by Versarien are they? They might let him work on a joint project with Versarien but we do not know either way and it is more probable that this is not the case otherwise it would be released in an RNS. The academic papers have been updated and everyone will have given permission for this to have happened and they will have just kept their r&d details as they were. The correct phrase for you to have used is 'Thanuja Galhena and Myanak Gautam also WORKED for Versarien' as this would be true. Why dont you ask Versarien and see what they say as I will stand corrected if I am wrong? I might do it myself.

Look PWhite, you know your stuff on the markets and how it works. You have good points to make on graphene being a material of the future but you have not got a clue about Versarien and the politics behind the company. This company has not been turned around. It has a nasty and greedy core which has just got itself a different front now NR has gone and it needs a complete overhaul of the management. You also cannot go making wild claims which include people who no longer work for or are no longer employed by the company. This is manipulation and deception and is wrong. My civil service friend said that Versarien will not get another loan or grant bean from the Government unless there is evidence they can pay back the current loan as it is tax payers money for which they are accountable. Also although the government has a duty to include Versarien in opportunities, the government will not favour Versarien above any other graphene company either for the sake of having that loan paid back, as they will back a company that can deliver as this will deliver what they want which is overall uk prosperity. This would be the same with any company and not just Versarien. This all makes sense to me.

I am sure Thanuja and Mayank will stay professional and not tell tales but I am also sure they have lots to say both good and bad.

[pwhite73] 30/3/2024 09:38

If you click on the names of Thanuja Galhena and Mayank Gautam a box opens up on the right that states - Versarien, Monmouth Road, Longhope, Gloucestershire, GL17 0QZ, UK

[pwhite73] 30/3/2024 09:27

1manchild - "Mayank and Thanuja no longer work for Versarien."

Work for and employed are not the same. Many bike owners work for Deliveroo but are not employed by them. Many paint and decorators work for Barratt Homes but are not employed by them.

Linkedin (which is where you got your information from) shows Thanuja ended her employment with Versarien in October 2022. It also shows Mayank ended his employment with Versarien in August 2023.



Now if you go to the link under the names of the co-authors in blue letters it states 'Show more' with a downward arrow. If you click on the arrow the companies and the various dates of the paper are revealed as below.

a NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA, 23681, USA
b National Institute of Aerospace, Hampton, VA, 23666, USA
c Versarien, Monmouth Road, Longhope, Gloucestershire, GL17 0QZ, UK

Received 12 September 2023, Revised 16 February 2024, Accepted 21 February 2024, Available online 17 March 2024, Version of Record 26 March 2024.

As can be seen above the paper was first received nearly a year after Thanuja left the employment of Versarien and a month after Mayank left the employment of Versarien. The paper was revised on 16/02/2024 which would have required the permission of all the co-authors.

Like a self-employed person a postdoctoral student can be working for any number of organisations on a contractual basis but employed by none.

My original statement - "Thanuja Galhena and Mayank Gautam also work for Versarien" is correct.

Furthermore I expect to see further collaborations between them and Versarien as Thanuja is employed by the DoB (involved in Innovate UK) and the University of Cambridge. Mayank is employed at MBDA. Both maintain an interest in graphene and 2D materials.

[fireball xl5] 30/3/2024 08:34

And what are those Mr Bookeeper of Welsh hovels.

[fireball xl5] 30/3/2024 08:32

Christ, the intellect displayed on this board is worthy of NASA. You really don't read anything about current day developments.

[1manchild] 29/3/2024 21:58

PWhite - 'Further to my link above - Thanuja Galhena and Mayank Gautam also work for Versarien all the other authors work for NASA. So it does appear to be a joint paper between the two companies Versarien and NASA and its dated June 2024.'

Mayank and Thanuja no longer work for Versarien. I see Thanuja is now at the government advanced materials team and Mayank works at MBDA so why not ask them about Versarien and their thoughts on where it is and where it is going? That would be an interesting unbiased view.

[bbmsionlypostafter mk2] 29/3/2024 14:55

As Versarien (VRS) had largely predicted back in December 2023 when it issued a company update its results for the 12 months to September 30 2023 were terrible. But they also show laughable failings in the prior year audit, failings I flagged up at the time and which I now feel obliged to report to my good pals at the Financial Reporting Council...

[bbmsionlypostafter mk2] 29/3/2024 14:46

As Versarien (VRS) had largely predicted back in December 2023 when it issued a company update its results for the 12 months to September 30 2023 were terrible. But they also show laughable failings in the prior year audit, failings I flagged up at the time and which I now feel obliged to report to my good pals at the Financial Reporting Council...

[the cronk] 29/3/2024 14:19

PW,

You are putting in an impressive shift defending the company all day every day, I just wonder why are you putting in so much effort?

The answer to your question,



The Cronk

There are only two types of pumping.


No, there's the comapny releasing RNS close together during a ramping campaigh where people are actively promoting the story in chat rooms and in telegram groups, media interviews, (Think VOX, Zak MIr), along with a bit of market support to encourage buying.


Nothing wrong woith any of that of course (provided lies aren't posted of course!), but it's all done at the same time to create momentum.

I once knew a guy that, for a fee, would manage and conduct such campaigns. He was also engaged when an IPO was struggling, and he would always get it over the line.

[petejay] 28/3/2024 23:36

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[dil 21] 28/3/2024 23:16

lol , you got the wrong box cover.

[pwhite73] 28/3/2024 22:20

supernumerary - "there must be raging demand for 'lunar dust mitigation' at the moment."

Again you miss the point. It's not the demand for lunar dust mitigation that will drive commercial sales but the use of graphene as a protective coating for many applications. If you think NASA are in on the VRS pump and dump you are gravely mistaken.

The GICE Project that Versarien were partner to was also about protective coating for aircraft.



"GICE: Airbus leads 'Spearhead Project' to produce safer aircrafts Ice accumulation on the wings, propellers and other aircraft surfaces can be extremely dangerous, and graphene-based de-icing systems can offer an alternative low-weight, highly efficient and flexible solution. Graphene is an ideal material to keep aircraft parts ice free, without affecting aerodynamic properties."

Only yesterday Pacific Basin announced it was going to coat its ships in graphene.



PUBLISHED MAR 27, 2024 6:55 PM BY THE MARITIME EXECUTIVE

"Pacific Basin Uses Graphene Coating on Props to Enhance Ship's Performance"

What's unfolding before you is a jigsaw puzzle. All you can see are the individual pieces and of course they don't make sense. I have the box cover and I can see the whole picture that's forming.

[supernumerary] 28/3/2024 20:10

'Is it now beginning to make sense why Versarien were selected'

It's always been obvious - they give the stuff away.

Good to see them going for early commercialisation though - there must be raging demand for 'lunar dust mitigation' at the moment. How can any well-managed household survive without it?

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'The CEO is ditched, Prompt brought in, a graphene scientist is appointed CEO and we are dealing with a new company in a more favourable market.
You must put the past behind and move forward from here. It is my opinion Versarien will be one of the wonder stocks for 2024.'

Everything you write is just rubbish. This is the same old company it always was. Does it never occur to you that this company is two boat anchors and a sub-scale money-burning source of cheap graphene for the research community?

For years it's been giving graphene away, then using that to spin a story that pulls in shareholder and grant money, which is then used to keep Cyroma and TC afloat. That's the reality of the situation that nobody wants to face. You simply have no clue - just continue to spin the same fantasies the gerbil used to.

[pwhite73] 28/3/2024 17:24

Further to my link above - Thanuja Galhena and Mayank Gautam also work for Versarien all the other authors work for NASA. So it does appear to be a joint paper between the two companies Versarien and NASA and its dated June 2024.

Is it now beginning to make sense why Versarien were selected for the DoB venture to the Space Centre in Houston Texas.



Abstract

NASA seeks to develop technologies to mitigate dust accumulation from planetary surfaces on robotic and human systems hardware during planned space exploration missions.

"2.1. Materials

75 μm ± 1 μm thick polyimide (Kapton™ HN Thermal Insulating Film1) sheets purchased from RS Components Ltd. (UK) (product number 536–3968, Brand: DuPont) and Versarien's Graphink-DF-1004 were used in this study. The Graphink-DF-1004 is a 100% water-based graphene ink, formulated by Versarien that consists of GNPs and the proprietary polymer, poly (amide imide) (PAI). GNPs were produced in accordance with previous work [32].

[festario] 28/3/2024 16:53

I object to the name 'Prompt' turnaround specialists.

[pwhite73] 28/3/2024 16:22

Thank you 66sequoia here is the link



"Spray-deposition of graphene/polymer thin coatings on polyimide sheets for lunar dust adhesion mitigation"

Acta Astronautica Volume 219, June 2024, Pages 449-458

Author links open overlay panel Keith L. Gordon a, Lopamudra Das b, Thanuja L. Galhena c, Mayank Gautam c, Glen C. King a, Valerie L. Wiesner a, Jonathan J. Hernandez b, Stephen A. Hodge c, Christopher J. Wohl a"

Note the name of our CEO as one of the authors.