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[squire007] 31/12/2019 12:31

One in the bag :-) 4 to go - i think KERPLUNK is the word ;-) are you ready?!! X

[bgt1] 31/12/2019 12:10

Not long to go now Kempster, close your shorts, lol

[loglorry1] 31/12/2019 12:00

Yet BIGT don't even want to pay £150m. The IP isn't worth much more than they paid a few hundred K. The reason is clear nobody wants to buy the graphene they have so their method of producing it is also worthless.

[sandbag] 31/12/2019 11:58

The new laws regarding IP etc. come into force in China in two days time:

hxxps://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=5d929919-61eb-4af9-b459-7c65b7a14737

but I'm not sure the penalty's are high enough:

"Provision of quintuple damages for malicious trade secret infringement introduced and the maximum statutory damages increased to RMB 5 million (US$741,180)".

Is this why Neill hasn't yet signed up to a deal?

[nellyb] 31/12/2019 11:47

neill r is not going anywhere.

[luckykids] 31/12/2019 11:36

I think the biggest news we could get here is that we are buying another machine. That would move it more than most things.

Neill has previous said that once there is a firm order then obtaining a bank loan will be feasible to purchase a new machine.

This would also show the extra demand they would be expecting.

Two new machines would send it into orbit. lol

[bgt1] 31/12/2019 11:27

I'd rather they stepped away from China as the tech could be used by them to enhance their defence / offensive capabilities. I know there's a huge "market" outside of that, but it's my opinion and protects the IP etc. I'd rather concentrate on so called friendly nations. Being ex military there are huge areas this could be used in within NATO etc.

[aph88] 31/12/2019 11:27

Club, I’ve followed this board for some time and I must ask, Neill states he will not be selling the business so your investment strategy is now defunct. What is your next card to play? I was always interested in knowing what you thought the share price would be upon takeover, from that we can deduce when you will no longer be here?

[club sandwich] 31/12/2019 11:22

Fest - so the obvious question to ask is why Ricketts believed in July (think it was) that he might be able to deliver a BIGT deal by October. If the remote-control tech wasn't in place then - and clearly still isn't in place now - there was no way a deal could be delivered in that timeframe (of roughly four months).

Another question to ask him when he's on the witness stand charged with negligent - or in the alternative fraudulent - misrepresentation.

If I won the lottery tomorrow I'd instruct lawyers the day after.

[squidsgone] 31/12/2019 11:19

So, the '5' are nearing completion of testing and, (assuming that has been both successful and eye-opening), there must a bunch of CEO's wrestling with the value to them to commercialise in their products ... the enhanced value that might be provided by being first to market, and the potential risk of being early adopters.This could snowball with any confirmed uptake leading to a capacity chase if first to market is key .... for me, if the tech is accepted as valuable then I would wish to confirm the supply chain can deliver before I would take the risk reputational risk.

[aph88] 31/12/2019 11:19

Billwave, my point was specific to China, not my overall view of how far away deals are. Commercial contracts signed with MAS and the activity in the O&G sector will come good in 2020 imo.

[festario] 31/12/2019 11:16

I feel that VRS are as far away as ever from launching anything in China.That came through loud and clear, 2 years since the Jinan announcement.Shocking really, but this is the AIM casino.

[billwave] 31/12/2019 11:15

APH88, agreed, exposes just how far away deals are.

[wuzy] 31/12/2019 11:10

Yes a very honest interview which is what we want no frills and investors can decide if they want in, no ambiguity. Excellent

[kmscott] 31/12/2019 11:07

TMS interview far superior to the Vox ones. Well done Neill and TMS, probing questions and detailed answers.

[aph88] 31/12/2019 11:07

The interview was the most challenging I’ve heard for Neill since I invested in the Jinan days at the heights of £1.80. I have averaged down since but the interview around the China section did not fill me with confidence around the 5 pillars of protecting IP, not from an IP protection viewpoint, but as to how far away a deal with China is:

Point 3 of Neills explanation - the equipment to produce graphene is not made by one singular supplier, they are going to look at licensing this or come up with ‘an alternative method to control that machinery’
Point 4 of Neills explanation - they want the process to be controlled ‘hopefullyR17; from the UK or Hong Kong, stating ‘hopefullyR17; because this part of the process is not yet resolved.

Both of those issues are fundamental to rolling out within China and protecting the IP and neither are resolved. The deal isn’t close on that basis. Neill really got exposed on the China section.

[davemac3] 31/12/2019 11:00

What type of graphene is in the AECOM arch and how much can VRS make?

[maisto] 31/12/2019 10:59

Appreciate Vox Markets have their own clientele but I wish Neill did less interviews with them and more with Total Market Solutions. As a shareholder, no matter how much faith I have in Neill and his team, I want to see/hear them challenged and observe how they respond. Very good interview.

[billwave] 31/12/2019 10:53

Hardly an inspiring interview. In my opinion it contained very little other than an attempt to justify and placate investors for its continuing lack of ability to generate revenue from any of its products. Several years in the making and still no-one willing to part with cash for anything they have for sale. Cash is burning at a rate that will require another raise in the not too distant future, this train is running out of steam fast. Meanwhile, some continue to spout their speculative nonsense as they have done for the last couple of years that huge things are about to kick off. I wonder just how many more years VRS will sit on the cusp? Until the money from the last questionable fund raise runs out I suspect. I don't feel there will be as many keene to get involved in the next round. Let's see what January brings, bets please?

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