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[scottishfield] 29/12/2019 10:40

Great summation in those posts superg, thank you. Hoping for an excellent year here. HNY to you.

[superg1] 29/12/2019 10:21

So in short 2020 is about he inflection point where VRS becomes a commercial supplier.


This share price jumping around part has been all about PIs jumping around from here to there trying to make some quick cash. They will jump around from share to share.

Then you have a crew of liars trying to influence PIs to sell to fit their quick buck short position on IG, they fall quiet to let it climb again, then back to trash it to close the short rinse and repeat.

Many posting are not long term they are simply trading and hate to think they are going to miss out, the FOMO effect.

In the near future I suspect that game is over on VRS, the deals will come, so will the big money and the big many backers.

Game over no more ADVFN small fry nonsense.

[superg1] 29/12/2019 10:13

So having asked your questions and done your own research you can come up with some detailed figures to work off.

So AD to answer your question.

Imo the commercial deals pending amount to many tonnes of demand.

The first one no matter what it is will imo take up current capacity, new kit will have to come in to serve testing and further deals.

We currently know they can do 3 tonnes maxed out.

We also know the 3 tonne version cost under £500k, so to expand is not unduly prohibitive on the cash.

In any case the need expand it means you have tonnes going out of the door with rapid pay back and cash flow to expand.

[superg1] 29/12/2019 10:08

On the first commercial deal front as stated by VRS.

The O and G commercial deal talks happen in early Jan. Testing is done, it does what they want, now it's down to the commercial deal and how much they want.

O and G spend huge amounts on trials that go nowhere. If they find something that works then time is money.

So they have found a fix to the issue through VRS, commercial deal talks start shortly.

They have the commercial partnership with MAS and now that is moving to commercial deals with the global sports brand. Those brands have been there for some time waiting for results and testing, which we know are all good.


The same re the Aecom arch and the concrete.

I did the maths on what I could pick up on at events, I work on asking different questions to different staff, including Aecom. They are tight-lipped but individuals don't know the answers you have and think there piece of the puzzle gives you no idea of the bigger picture.


EG

What sort of spacings apart is needed. Line of sight was one answer.

So I take that to mean they need to communicate with each other, which is obvious due to signalling comments.

To another to maintain line of sight (they assume you knew that as you have already pointed out various Web stories Aecom put out there about the arch pre event) what sort of average distance would be. You chuck in the question casually in chats.

You know when asking they are engineers and that point will be locked in their brain.


Then in other casual chats, you talk about concrete, NEOM the futuristic city and likely use of graphene. Comments by one of their bosses that by 2025 50% of all constructions materials will contain nano materials and so on.

[shavian] 29/12/2019 10:00

Great report from Stanford, but I bet they have not factored in the saving in concrete and CO2 which would result from the introduction of graphene and 3D printing into the infrastructure required by the plan. 😋

[superg1] 29/12/2019 09:54

AD

A very odd question.

So if they did one commercial deal by April 10th but 10 others after up until the end of the year, who knows what the share price would be.

Then you have the China side.

The point for me, as mentioned many times, is when the first material commercial deal drops in, then a forecast can kick in, which is what big funds seek for then to start investing. BIGT it seems now has another trying to nudge it aside jostling to invest.

I mention that as the funds will have an eye on that deal as the de-risking comes through the cash and subsequent plans China have.

[ad631] 29/12/2019 09:35

The question on my mind for the forthcoming year is: If my £2.60 is not reached by Easter (April 10th) will this target ever be reached in 2020?

[forestfred] 29/12/2019 05:31

Our Graphene could be .

Out of this world .

To infinity and beyond:-)

How to use graphene to help future space exploration

Scientists have started testing novel graphene-based thermal management devices for space applications.

SPACE
SCIENTIFIC ADVANCES


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With its unique properties like strength, thinness, lightness, heat and electrical conductivity, graphene is seen as a potential game-changing material for several industries. From computing to biomedical technologies, solar cells to wearables, this material – made from honeycomb-shaped sheets of carbon just one atom thick – is already being tested in various sectors and applications. Supported by the EU’s 10-year Graphene Flagship initiative, a team of researchers have launched zero-gravity parabolic flight tests to try out graphene-based thermal management devices for space applications.

A press release on the project website notes that thermal management is crucial for systems such as satellites and other equipment to perform correctly in space. “Loop heat pipes cool electronic devices and instruments by using the heat they generate to evaporate a fluid inside a wick. The wick is traditionally made of porous metal. In the case of this experiment, the wick will be coated in graphene to improve the heat transfer between the electronic units and the fluid.”

New experiment

According to the same press release, the flight tests are part of a third zero-gravity campaign, following up from two previous campaigns in 2017 that demonstrated that graphene could improve the performance of loop heat pipes. “This third zero-gravity campaign will test an advanced device at higher technology readiness level, as a further step towards space applications.”

Carlo Iorio, senior researcher at project partner Université libre de Bruxelles and coordinator of the zero-gravity experiments, says a sounding rocket campaign will be held in Kiruna, northern Sweden. “The rocket campaign will provide our researchers with six minutes of micro gravity. During this time, we will test fundamental aspects of graphene solutions, the same used to prepare the thermal management devices, essential tools for the future of space exploitation.”

Entire value chain

The second phase of the Graphene Flagship research initiative covered the GrapheneCore1 (Graphene-based disruptive technologies) project that ended in 2018. As stated on CORDIS, this third stage of the initiative “builds upon the results achieved in the ramp-up phase (2013 - 2016) and the first core project (2016 - 2018), and covers the period April 2018 - March 2020.” Started in 2018, the GrapheneCore2 (Graphene Flagship Core Project 2) will integrate further components in larger systems.

Graphene Flagship covers the entire value chain, from materials to components and systems. It was set up in 2013 to take graphene from the realm of academic laboratories into commercial applications by 2023. Graphene Flagship’s core consortium consists of over 150 academic and industry experts across 23 countries. Associated members also contribute to its various research strands. Graphene Flagship is among the EU’s Future and Emerging Technology Flagships addressing major scientific and technological challenges.

For more information, please see:
Graphene Flagship website

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[1teepee] 29/12/2019 00:11

Oh right , you are shorter scum;)I am a lovely long teepee

[sandbag] 28/12/2019 19:23

Thanks to Forestfred for his post 87338.
It should be pointed out however that the at least one fact can be questioned.
e.g.
"44. Graphene Rackets

Graphene can improve the energy distribution and weight of the racket while increasing the service speed and stability. Tennis equipment manufacturer Head have already developed a series of commercially available racket enhanced with graphene, named “Graphene 360” which is already used by tennis stars like Novak Djokovic and Sascha Zverev."

IIRC Sg1 has proven that the product used in Head tennis rackets is multi layer and therefore not true graphene.

I note that the author does quote "2020 and beyond". Some of these applications could be very much "beyond". I just hope that the desalination concept comes to fruition. I read some years ago that some of the richest individuals and families in the world were buying up aquifiers because they see water as the new oil. It would be great if VRS could solve a major world problem and it would be a true lasting legacy for Neill and the team.

[evergreen8] 28/12/2019 19:20

FF excellent post, makes good the absence of the header.

As the only verified large scale producer of FLG serious companies only have only one option for the reliable supply of quality material and that is of course VRS.

Do your own research of course but OMG this is going to be HUGE !

[laginaneil] 28/12/2019 18:29

Evening Folks,

I think this may have been posted before but could be a good contact to get

our Nanene into concrete - one of my favorite applications !

[66sequoia] 28/12/2019 14:41

hTTps://youtu.be/NBmlMa6RCV4 if you can rent or get on Netflix etc, an interesting documentry of the man and his efforts on bringing down Herballife, he was only short on them for a mere billion!

[markyboy5] 28/12/2019 12:55

The twit always has to have the last say
And it’s always the same word filtered 😂😂😂😂8514;

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[club sandwich] 28/12/2019 12:25

I see Graham is ramping that HUGE deals are only weeks away again, just like he did around Q3 2018.

Last time he got a new house out of it. Maybe he needs a new kitchen this time?

Mind you, if you keep predicting it you'll be right sooner or later - assuming of course that the muppet crew 'running' this company does ever actually deliver anything...

[1teepee] 28/12/2019 09:04

We're like two peas in a pod!

[superg1] 28/12/2019 08:36

Evergreen

I don't know about some but Fest CS and co aren't paid etc.

There is certainly some suggestion of truth about that about some though and names that pay them. Some try to hide their cash to avoid being sued re false allegations and information posted.

[forestfred] 28/12/2019 07:34

I-found this very interesting .

Graphene-based wearable sensor monitors heart activity accurately and comfortably
Researchers at The University of Texas at Austin have developed a graphene-based wearable device that can be placed on the skin to measure a variety of body responses, from electrical to biomechanical signals.

New graphene-based sensor monitors heart activity accurately image

The device is so lightweight and stretchable that it can be placed over the heart for extended periods with little or no discomfort. It also measures cardiac health in two ways, taking electrocardiograph and seismocardiograph readings simultaneously. The electrocardiogram (ECG) technique, a method that records the rates of electrical activity produced each time the heart beats. is rather well-known. Seismocardiography (SCG), a measurement technique using chest vibrations associated with heartbeats, is a bit less so. Powered remotely by a smartphone, the e-tattoo is the first ultrathin and stretchable technology to measure both ECG and SCG.

"We can get much greater insight into heart health by the synchronous collection of data from both sources," said Nanshu Lu, an associate professor in the departments of Aerospace Engineering and Engineering Mechanics and Biomedical Engineering.



ECG readings alone are not accurate enough for determining heart health, but they provide additional information when combined with SCG signal recordings. Like a form of quality control, the SCG indicates the accuracy of the ECG readings.

Although soft e-tattoos for ECG sensing are not new, other sensors, such as the SCG sensor, are still made from nonstretchable materials, making them bulky and uncomfortable to wear. Lu and her team's e-tattoo is made of a piezoelectric polymer called polyvinylidene fluoride, capable of generating its own electric charge in response to mechanical stress. The device also includes 3D digital image correlation technology that is used to map chest vibrations in order to identify the best location on the chest to place the e-tattoo.





The e-tattoo has another advantage over traditional methods. The device can be worn for days, providing constant heart monitoring.

Lu and her team are already working on improvements to data collection and storage for the device, as well as ways to power the e-tattoo wirelessly for longer periods. They recently developed a smartphone app that not only stores the data safely but can also show a heart beating on the screen in real time.

Source:
UTexas
Advanced Science
Graphene Catalog, find your graphene materials here!
Tags:Graphene applicationsGraphene SensorsMedicineTechnical / Research
Posted: Jun 23, 2019 by Roni Peleg

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[pieffect] 27/12/2019 23:38

I'm shorting this, will be back when issue rns is out

[1teepee] 27/12/2019 19:24

I have accounted for 10 different personalities so far;)

[1teepee] 27/12/2019 19:08

Like yourself?

[grabster] 27/12/2019 18:09

I agree that the risk aspect has altered significantly - with upside prospects outweighing downsides more strongly than ever.