Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[superg1] 30/12/2019 08:13

Perhaps it's because I fully understand that AIM companies don't feature for 99% plus of funds. The market caps and various other factors are way off where near al funds would invest.

Hence we are left with the minnows of the investment world or RG continually trying to F people over.

Deals drop in and the whole picture starts to transform beyond recognition.


The graphene revolution has yet to start, But once it does, then graphene will become a seriously hot investment sector, like an oil our gold rush.

I'm happy to wait, I know it's coming.

And of course by constantly researching and putting the effort in, you don't know what I know.

[superg1] 30/12/2019 08:07

Am I get nervous?

Quite the opposite, I'm becoming very relaxed and think an M/C of £1 bill plus is nailed on. The only query I have is how quickly will it get there, then how high can it go multi billion.

The applications in play are not gimmicks, they are game changers for the relevant big companies who seek out such gains and advantages.

Thus it's a no brainer to them and huge prospects ahead for VRS and it's share price.

We are talking a pipeline that would go over 100 tonnes and higher, with the first few meaning 10's of tonnes.

So why would I think otherwise.

[1teepee] 29/12/2019 22:39

It's bedimensional They are playing an even longer game than Vrs

[laginaneil] 29/12/2019 21:34

This 2018 one from Nanotech Engineering Inc.



Looks a bit 'sus' to me... (92 - 97% efficient ?)




Don't know if independent test results from ' Intertek ' are around anywere yet.

I emailed Intertek.

[laginaneil] 29/12/2019 21:21

Evening folks,

This is one perovskite solar project but not sure if it is our graphene ink?



Andrea C. Ferrari said ..novel solar farm we will develop by 2020. (Next year!)


Another, Graphene flagship put 92 Million Euros in with other partners adding

more (eg Airbus - they know us !!) Updated 10 Dec at bottom of page.



A lot going on..

[1teepee] 29/12/2019 20:23

I think he might be right

[club sandwitch] 29/12/2019 19:16

That's it I'm out of here. I intend in the morning to sell the last of my remaking holding in this shocking company.
Although it is a large holding and by selling in its entirety I am aware that huge falls will take place so I am giving you an early opportunity to jump ship.
I am selling my entire stock of two hundred shares first thing in the morning, well after I have done the dishes anyway.

[forestfred] 29/12/2019 18:40

Shavian
Good report for the board .
Ff

[superg1] 29/12/2019 18:39

Aguadry

Yes there is testing going on with solar panels that have graphene ink in them.

It’s a graphene flagship spearhead project.

The details of where the trials and where have been posted in the past.

If you are talking CVD graphene panels it’s not viable currently is CVD production is very expensive.

Eg 2cm x 2cm can be $200 to buy. In kg terms it equates to billions.

[maisto] 29/12/2019 13:52

Agaudry - Neill has mentioned two or three times (once at a London pub meet and greet I was attending) that graphene in solar panels is a real but distant target. I'm convinced we will start making decent revenues on a few other applications that are being discussed as Top 5 very soon and and in any case much before anything that is solar related.

[1teepee] 29/12/2019 13:49

I think super g string does most excellent research!

[1teepee] 29/12/2019 13:31

Horrible system really but I would rather be on the shareholder side of the fence, given the choice

[1teepee] 29/12/2019 12:02

You topping up?

[ad631] 29/12/2019 11:49

The limbering up period is over - the 2020 graphene race is about to begin for VRS. No false starts now Neill (and team) - on your starting blocks :)

[agaudry] 29/12/2019 11:31

I only check in every so often .... well the reading bit of this. Got in with some 'winnings' from IQE @ 97p ..... should have cashed in @ a swift rise to £1.30 but as is my habit too greedy and saw it slip back .... a couple of times. Silly billy me.
I might have missed the chat re. Graphene added solar panels which popped up on tge radar a week or two back. I had a quick look around to see if this was vrs related, but didn't find anything.
Sorry if this is time wasting .... but if there was any link between vrs and advanced solar product being rolled out I'd be obliged to anyone jotting a note here.
G.L.A.

[superg1] 29/12/2019 11:27

The same type of research that showed VRS to be good, trustworthy and a good investment wooed Haydale and AGM to be bad, lying and openly and misleading the market.

The backers in each wouldn't listen.

Time has shown all the research back then, forecast the future as it is now.

Back then we said the graphene AIM companies are upside down on their SPs, now they are the right way up.

[ad631] 29/12/2019 11:01

And yes, I know you take most of the plaudits superg, but a thank you to yourself and all (including club when not rude) for contributing. No pressure Neill - but Easter it is for my exit. Note: overshooting of £2.60 would be welcomed. Leeds would be good for me as a location for a shareholder meeting :)

[superg1] 29/12/2019 11:01

So on PRG while Manduca and co were making claims about kit ordered and its capability I was contacting the suppliers.

Through checking the details of various mines and non fluorescing diamonds only one bit of kit available would work, otherwise the big diamonds would need up in the tailing pile. Which is why Lucara sold it on in the first place as they found big stones in the tailings. If anyone read the long report they would have known.

That company was Tomra, It could only be Tomra there were no other companies with the kit. PRG made claims re what they were doing with their supplier. So you ask Tomra if they do that etc etc and you form a picture off whether the claims are true or most likely BS.

Then you engage with staff at the miming ministry in Lesotho re what levels of investment would secure permits and discover the amounts talked about by PRG are hugely different to that suggested by the company. PRG talking $15 mill for 2 mines. Lesotho talking $100 mill for one.

So quite clearly PRG was a fraud, but the vast majority of PIs could not see it, sucked in by a con man, not asking questions. Not giving any thought all the other mines required 100's of millions out it. All they could do was relish the big share price jump when the permit came. Ignoring all the BS and obvious lies, fixated on that big return.


The £ signs of multi-bagging on getting the permit far outweighed all common sense.

Surprise surprise, in the application to get the permit was a completely fictitious finance backing of $75 mill never announced to the market. A fraud to get the permit but Lesotho spotted the fraud the finance company did not exist.

Proof that Lesotho wanted big many demonstrated before signing a permit over.


The fact that Manduca had taken a non convertible loan note from Obtala, paid half price and then made it convertible at 1.375 pence (way below the share price) while shouting that he was all about protecting against dilution and in the interest of shareholders.

Meanwhile a mysterious spread bet appeared where it was obvious all lodged for gearing and tax free. Linked into Titanium capital, a name used to make it look like a bigger company that existed, but it wasn't it Manduca and mates on a big fraud. Converting that loan note to be a ten bagger for them post getting the permit by fraud.


Even with all that, clear evidence PIs and been f'd over, a large number of them backed him again. Give me some more money, PRGS and I'll make you all rich.

Yep they fell for it again, rinse and repeat, he f'd them over


So yes a bit a scaremongering on various shares by scumbags is like talking candy from a baby.

£ signs do strange things to people minds.


Research helps considerably imo in determining whether claims are BS or not.

[ad631] 29/12/2019 10:53

It does appear that VRS' 'inflection point' will indeed be 2020. The first 1/4 of the calendar year does imo require BIGT and / or similar China deal to be concluded to release funds for the exponential growth that we all know VRS has the potential to experience. Likewise, commercial deals appear to be on the horizon - O & G, textiles etc prior to my deadline of Easter. Is my deadline unreasonable especially when months / years of graphene evaluation are coming to their positive conclusion as seen with the Airbus association?