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[scottishfield] 25/10/2019 16:47

You too r b

[rogerbridge] 25/10/2019 16:15

Just woken up, no rns, that's fine, a contented holder.
Have a good weekend folks.

[forestfred] 25/10/2019 16:10

Billeave

Many I’m sure myself included have bought into Vrs and seen the share price drop .
I remember years ago buying at 30-40p and seeing thing drop back to 15-16p
50% plus down on paper then it and sat around that for a long it’s what can happen On aim high reward companies so nothing new yes it’s test your nerve .

But then as the company progressed back up to 40-60p and onwards ...

So your not alone or unique in any way
But some believed in the big picture and as of now it proved right .

Some continued to buy to lower there average many have bought at higher level which is how it goes
But blaming someone else for investment decisions to buy
I like many have bought at higher share price figures my choice to do not influenced by any poster.


I believe we’re going much higher than what’ I bought at again my opinion .

Time and continued dedication by the Vrs team has proven the deciding factor and it will continue to be so in my opinion .
We have all been up and down on the share price at some point I’m sure
Ff

[festario] 25/10/2019 16:07

I'm afraid to say that when I look back at the email conversations that I HAVE exchanged with Neill, regarding issues such as Jinan and the 2018 accounts, it actually reconfirms to me why I have been correct to reduce my holdings.Whilst I realise that I cannot be given any detail that's not disclosed to the market, the content of his responses now would not bear any reasonable scrutiny I'm afraid.

[schmally] 25/10/2019 16:03

Well I'm hoping to meet up with Neill soon Bill, so why don't you give us a list of questions that you would like him to answer.

You seem to have a lot of questions and challenges for LTH's so we may as well ask Neill directly for you?

[melf] 25/10/2019 15:59

Nope you're right - I've seen the light...don't contact Neill, base your investment decisions on what billwave says instead. What a man !!!

[billwave] 25/10/2019 15:49

While I thank you for your suggestions, unfortunately it does nothing to alleviate the frustration of any investors that are underwater and feel they were influenced by the over the top promotion of NR and the totally biased nature of Superg's highly moderated thread. It should not continue unchallenged. NR is very accessible for reasons that suit his own agenda, as he is not able to give away information which could be deemed influential to the share price what do you think it is he is going to tell you? What you would like to hear within the limits of disclosure perhaps? Wake up and smell the coffee man.

[forestfred] 25/10/2019 15:32

Or Attend a AGM
Where you can ask questions direct to the team .

Ff

[melf] 25/10/2019 15:28

Just to confirm, NR is very accessible for investors. If you have any concerns contact him directly rather than basing you investment decision on the rubbish you read here.

[billwave] 25/10/2019 15:24

Melf - I thank you for your sensible and factual contribution which is all I had hoped for. I stand corrected although I think I'd suggested that for all of the collaborations going back 3 years in total there have been virtually no sales, orders, or notable revenue to speak of. Today, singling out collaboration number 1 pinned in the header, to my knowledge I believe there has been none? So it appears the new machine has possibly produced 262kg of revenue generating Graphene sales since its purchase and instalment a couple of years ago? Should all be included in the results I daresay. Regards.

[tini5] 25/10/2019 15:21

Live from CS' office...

[9degrees] 25/10/2019 15:12

the 4k trade at 11.48 was my buy . bargain prices

[schmally] 25/10/2019 15:07

Is it just me, or does it feel like shooting fish in a barrel dismissing and disproving all the nonsense from Log and the gang. As for Fest and Club, the less said the better. The quality of their contribution is now on a par with Chinese graphene. Disappointingly sub standard and of very little value.

[schmally] 25/10/2019 14:53

Fest, Yet another example of why you should have attended investor days.

The answer is remarkably simple. Large companies don't want to waste their time entering in collaboration agreements, unless they have confidence in the potential supply chain and scale up capability. VRS have so far got the balance totally correct in my view. They have raised funds to ensure capacity has increased sufficiently to satisfy testing demand and are able to demonstrate scalability and have gained accreditation. This has given the confidence to companies to enter into collaborations knowing that if they ever want to increase orders significantly that VRS will be able to meet demand. Remember, they can install new machines in approx 12 weeks, so if they have orders for tens/hundreds of tonnes, the timescales to start meeting demand will be only a few months.

Just because collaborations can take years to fulfil all the complex testing phases and to get loadings optimized, this does not mean the scale up strategy is flawed in any way. A very lazy and ill informed effort from you Fest. Must do better

[billwave] 25/10/2019 14:30

Yes Festario, one of the many examples from over the years that need addressing. It has been voiced however that to air and discuss these issues may raise fear, uncertainty and doubt. The attitude of some invested here, that choose to just ignore and avoid such issues in favour of blind faith, really does defy belief.

[festario] 25/10/2019 14:20

As an example of a long forgotten VRS milestone...Who remembers the placing in November 2017, to buy a machine that would multiply Nanene production by 10?Neill said at the time, he would never dilute shareholders like this unless there was a good reason... 'and there was a bloody good reason'. Well what was it? Because we are two years on and we haven't sold any?

[billwave] 25/10/2019 14:09

rheumking - I have quite clearly stated both that I am no longer invested in VRS and my reasons for trying to add some factual objectivity to the discussion board. Surely this is a perfect opportunity to refute anything that I write and correct any facts I iterate that can be proved otherwise. Fair debate is that not? The current status of collaboration number 1 pinned in the header is still on the table for discussion until close of business when my attention will be drawn to number 2 on the list, feel free to correct and enlighten me with any facts that I am possibly not aware of that could show this collaboration has progressed further than stated. I really do welcome sensible exchanges. Regards.

[runthejoules] 25/10/2019 14:08

Every sell is a buy too! Looks like 91/2p is a base so happy to have bought down there.

[owenga] 25/10/2019 14:06

And the 2 x 20k odd deals are probably linked bed and isa

[festario] 25/10/2019 13:57

John Veals, just for clarity, festarios is not me.Not that it matters.

[markyboy5] 25/10/2019 13:57

Thanks roger shown as a sell on my screen