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[schmally] 29/10/2019 17:40

Bill, just save yourself some productive hours and go away for 6 months. Then pop your head back around March/April time to remind us whether you were right or wrong. I doubt we’ll be hearing from you in 6 months however.

[markster66] 29/10/2019 17:35

Bill, did NR put a gun to your head and force you to invest in his company? And had you been fortunate to invest in the company in the early days you would have significantly increased your personal wealth as a result of his hard work and tenacity in building a global business. Instead of which you resented the long wait (and I will agree with you it is a long wait) for significant commercial contracts to be generated and having decided to sell your entire holding you now come onto this board day after day trying to provoke other investors to sell their holdings by as John Veals pointed out "spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt"? I would therefore conclude that you are the individual with the nasty streak. If you had any dignity you would desist and express opinions on forums for shares in which you are actually invested.

[billwave] 29/10/2019 17:23

Good evening Markster66, forestfred, we all have an agenda. I do indeed have a family that is proud of me, they are aware and sometimes even involved in my posting as it is an interesting and fascinating topic. They tend to be as bewildered and astonished as myself at the attitude and responses of some posters, yours included. For the record I managed to go all out for circa my overall average after 2 years of holding so not as big a loser as you would have yourself believe. Had I held on longer it would of been a different story however. Your way of words suggest you have a nasty streak within you that will be directed at anyone that may disagree with your sentiment? I suspect as it has been suggested part of the reason I am still here is to do with confirmation bias of a decision I have already made. In order to do that I seek certain truths, nothing underhand, no conspiracy. Perhaps you may be able to shed some light on why trying to present certain facts and seeking quantifiable truths where VRS is concerned is seen to be spreading doom and gloom as ff suggests, or spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt as johnveals has suggested? I just don't get it? Another part of me is a little miffed at the way NR sucked some investors, myself included, into the share by very over promotional means, I'm not the only one that has suggested this, it is good to see he is at least trying to act more professional in that regard. Having been heavily invested for so long I am interested to follow how the story is unfolding, Who knows, with the fruition of certain developments that have been hinted at for as long as I can remember I could even be tempted back in. Alas we appear no closer, the patience wears thinner and the attitude of current investors continues to diminish to less than civil. Best regards.

[woodpeckers] 29/10/2019 16:51

Interesting comment here ...“There will always be a need for collaboration between industry and academia. In fact we are working closely with [Sir Konstantin] and business leaders to develop an exciting new model to realise the potential commercial opportunities for Graphene and other two dimensional materials,” Dame Nancy said.

[ridicule] 29/10/2019 16:38

As long as it isn't the despatch department. We may not be in the Departure Lounge adejuk, but we sure as hell have arrived at the Airport!!

[clint fleecewood] 29/10/2019 16:29

Is this the arguments department?

[ridicule] 29/10/2019 15:56

Well said adejuk. It is nice to see a bit of humour appear on here like it used to.

[luckyorange] 29/10/2019 15:54

I hope that it does for both of you too ade and say that with all sincerity, one thing is for sure that the team will be doing their damndest to see that it does.

[adejuk] 29/10/2019 15:52

anyone who invests based on bb comments should not be allowed to manage their own pocket money

[adejuk] 29/10/2019 15:51

rid
it's nice to know there is someone older than me on here:-)
not by much though
i hope vrs delivers while our dribble is still warm.
gl

[forestfred] 29/10/2019 15:17

Billwave
Honest answer to your question very happy at this point in time .

I see you are here back again painting doom-and gloom though , why is that ?

you dont need to worry about us .


As you have no shares in Vrs it is odd why your here trying to save us all from ourselves .

You sure you have not got a agenda ??

A lot of us lth investors have done there own research and are happy.

Ff

[luckyorange] 29/10/2019 13:53

I know how your mind works ridicule you have made that abundantly clear lol. Sell then tell people you have sold and then 'cantilever' back in , the rest of us call that trading, don't try to 'elevate' it to what it isn't.

Haz101 has lost money by following your 'cantilever' system and I know that for a fact, should have told him when to sell shouldn't you as he is a 'friend' of yours in the chatroom that you all inhabit?

[luckyorange] 29/10/2019 13:45

Old Man wasn't a reference to your age by the way ridicule , just thought it nicer to say that than 'pal' or something similar lol.

I do wonder how many would have got in early on without the great information shared by superg and others but they never acknowledge that, I do, thanks superg et al can't wait for the huge deals in the pipeline and the graphene age to kick off.

[ridicule] 29/10/2019 13:40

Oh dear. You just do not get it do you Lucky. It isn’t the share price (you would Have inserted “stupid”) here but I am more polite. No it isn’t the share price, it’s the market cap when measured against the gap between the hope value And the value the market would apply when looking at fundamentals. From about the 50p level there has been a significant gap between hope and fundamental values of VRS. One could live with this when the prospect of a big order was always just around the corner and increasing numbers of collaborations were being announced. Indeed, I did while cantilever investing at the same time. I pumped more money into VRS from profit I had made from earlier withdrawals from VRS. I also participated in the placing at around the 1.43 level because I fully bought into the strategy. However, as the year has progressed, much as I believe in the strategy, the market was increasingly likely to punish the share price when VRS predictions failed to materialise. You are right, I had a much larger holding six months ago. Events however had made it clear there was an increasing threat to the level of wealth that I had accrued from my investment in VRS. It made perfect sense for me to cantilever some of it into a company that was at a different phase of its development or to hold some money in cash. There is clearly a situation where a big holders may just sit on their shares year after year as you describe and I accept that. I just don’t agree with it so don’t start lecturing me about how my mind should work.

[superg1] 29/10/2019 13:39

You can lead a horse to water......🙄🤫

[jointer13] 29/10/2019 13:33

there is no other company achieved what vrs has achieved...verification of our quality materials....the only one on the planet.

they know what they are doing.

[luckyorange] 29/10/2019 13:27

The company are way ahead in that respect haz101, if they were looking for suggestions off PI's on how to run the company then I definitely wouldn't be invested here, they know what they are doing.

[rogerthegrouch] 29/10/2019 13:24

Rid "I have received a number of messages of support since your recent outbursts."

Just be careful who you receive support and advice from.

If you are an innocent bystander in all this, which is possible, then i am afraid you are being played by people and have been well and truly had. Such people infest and manipulate private twitter groups and I think you know to whom I am referring. These people often target the rich and elderly with large holdings they can convince to sell. They also target fools, which you are not, but perhaps review some of your recently forged friendships with fellow large holders that may fit that criteria. Open one eyes, stay alert.

[mavfav] 29/10/2019 13:13

One thing is for certain and that's when you see some faces circling they are concerned that they are going to lose moneyNot by the share going down or revaluing their stock always it's as they are short or have spread bets on Fingers I'm sure are going to be frazzledI know nooothing

[ridicule] 29/10/2019 13:05

Since IOF teepee, I have never followed SuperG’s advice in the way you infer. Luckyorange, I really do think is time you gave up trying to make me into a caricature that I am not. I tried to advise on cantilever investing a few years ago To be helpful to fellow PIs. That is one aspect that bulletin boards should try and undertake in my view. You, in particular pounced on it, using the type of vicious language that you use today. Let me assure you, I will not be intimidated by it. I have received a number of messages of support since your recent outbursts.

Here are some facts. Today, I hold over 800k of VRS shares with my wife. How is that trying to undermine VRS? Around 200k of those shares are there because of the cantilever strategy I have followed, How does that damage VRS and fellow shareholders? I do not know how many shares you hold but don’t give lectures on how I am damaging a company that I care about.

You say I am an old man and at 76 years old I regrettably have to say you are right. One thing is for sure though, I firmly believe that I am much nicer person than you.