Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[johnveals] 25/10/2019 11:48

“For the sake of potential new investors”

Really?

Hundreds of lifestyle shares on AIM and you chose to save potential new investors in Versarien from themselves.

Why?

There is only one explanation. You and your pals are in a hole.

[pshevlin] 25/10/2019 11:43

At least with a horse you can check the form against the others.

[billwave] 25/10/2019 11:43

So you feel that trying to give an actual fact based account of the current state of affairs of VRS, and to highlight and debate the current status of all of the collaborations to date, with regards to monetary value is attacking VRS? Why is that exactly?

[forestfred] 25/10/2019 11:40

Dear rainbow as your back on the board it’s got to be time for me to Buy a few more Vrs shares , for many years now you have been of great help and support to my holding .

Surely you and mr loglorry wish you had bought into Vrs as you both have been putting your points of view over since the 15p days .

I do sincerely Hope you got a few along the way in the time you have been posting you could have made some great returns ?.
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[johnveals] 25/10/2019 11:36

But non of this addresses the motives of those attacking Versarien. They claim to be uninvested yet continually talk down VRS. Why? That is a rhetorical question by the way.

[billwave] 25/10/2019 11:31

Johnveals - For the sake of potential new investors at least do you feel it would be fair and just to try and give a true and objective view of the current state of affairs concerning VRS? Unfortunately a highly moderated and hence biased thread that thrives on rumour, here-say, and projections based on emotion and fantasy will not allow that. For the sake of those at least it is important that alternative views based entirely on facts are aired and debated. If that is something you can not welcome then you are as instrumental as log and his cronies at trying to unfairly influence the share price in your favour, albeit at the other end of the spectrum.

schmally - A very good and thought provoking post, thank you. The flaw as I see it is that the turning a blind eye approach you suggest will only bring joy to those that may actually take pleasure from gloating at investors that have potentially lost money, while just sitting back and allowing it to happen. I'm not trying to drive the share price down, as I've mentioned, a thread set up and moderated to only allow biased views to suit ones own purpose is neither fair or just. At least let's try and get the full factual situation out there.

[supernumerary] 25/10/2019 11:08

Definitely my last post on this increasingly boring subject.

evergreen - you're quite right, you're misinterpreting woody's post, because she misinterpreted what she was reading re PolyGraph. As I've already pointed out the text she quoted was written prior to the PolyGraph project, outlining the problems it was designed to solve. Portraying it as their view of the current situation is, to put it kindly, disingenuous.

You also fail completely to understand what PolyGraph was. Perhaps if you go back and read all the material, probably for the first time, you may gain a better understanding. But I doubt it.

woody - note comment above - as I said yesterday, you're completely misinterpreting the text you quote.

Ref Avanzare, I'm not saying they are producing graphene-loaded polymer materials in bulk, only that the PolyGraph project gave them that capability. An example of what they do is shown here for example: Are you seriously claiming that they couldn't produce a Polygrene-like material (whatever Polygrene is - there seems only to be a single claim sheet available, rather than full specs) if there was commercial demand?

I note another elision of fact into speculation. Ferrari says 'In Europe, we have many companies able to produce multiple tonnes of the material per year – if needed, they can even produce hundreds of tonnes.' You then wander off into remarks about Chinese, not European, production capabilities.

As for the Chinese coming to VRS, I'll believe it when I see it and not a moment before. Ricketts has a 6 year record of broken promises. Maybe this will be the year he breaks his duck, but he's running out of time as November approaches, and the AGM disappears from sight...

Regarding the need for expertise - all the graphene companies have links to academia. Including the Chinese ones. GEIC alone already claims 'More than 90 companies to date from all over the world have chosen to partner with The University of Manchester to make their graphene ideas a reality.' No doubt Cambridge has a similar roll-call, as will the major US colleges. VRS has no exclusivity in academia.

Remember when VRS signed an MoU with Tunghsu? Worth re-reading the RNS in the light of Tunghsu's current GEIC Tier 1 membership, and their recently-announced mass production of graphene batteries, without VRS help.

And for companies that want more hands-on support there are always specialists they can go to - see for instance As I'm sure Ferrari would agree, there are many others if you look with an open mind.

lucky - can't say I really missed you, just wondered where you'd gone. I see you're still as loosely-connected to the truth as your mentor the gerbil.

Firstly I never said VRS was marvellous - I always thought it was a load of rubbish, and Ricketts was useless. Remember the Versarien PC? Utterly clueless and obviously so.

Secondly I never sold out for any reward - I never owned the shares, so how could I have sold, with or without a reward?

Thirdly I've never ramped Haydale, nor any other company in the graphene space.

Why do you just make stuff up? Being honest really is much easier.

[alchemy] 25/10/2019 11:00

Yes! Ha ha but the horse won only that one race.

[1teepee] 25/10/2019 10:55

Apparently it was his 25th attempt

[rainbow23] 25/10/2019 10:54

No Bigt today,no huge orders today, no revenues. No hope for this one, eighties beckoning today!!

[rainbow23] 25/10/2019 10:54

No Bigt today,no huge orders today, no revenues. No hope for this one, eighties beckoning today!!

[loglorry1] 25/10/2019 10:27

@schmally we took Bank of Ireland to court and they lost. We bought the bonds at 37p more than 10 years ago and they've paid 13.725p each year since and now trade at 210p see this link



I'm not sure how that can be construed as a failure.

And you say I don't get my facts right!

[mryl] 25/10/2019 10:21

WP thanks for your reply, I don't know whether that really answers any of my concerns, but seeing your level of trust and faith in everything VRS is quite refreshing.

[matheus7777] 25/10/2019 10:03

Post courtesy of Ellis on Twitter. VRS listed in top 15 3D global printer stocks in IG article hTTps://www.ig.com/uk/news-and-trade-ideas/top_15_3d_printingstocks-from-around-the-world-190731

[schmally] 25/10/2019 10:02

Log, But you, Lucien and Tom are not "other investors" in VRS are you, so why are you here. You've made your case, so if you're genuinely so supremely confident that you're right and all us mug LTH punters are being duped, why don't you just come back in 6 months time to gloat if you're proved right?

You can't do that of course though can you, because you're all financially exposed if the VRS share price rises, so you have to desperately troll the board using every possible tactic available to tout your misinformation. However, what I and most other solid LTH's realise, is that the very fact you have to continually troll this board (when not holding any shares) simply provides us with solid evidence that you must actually lack any confidence whatsoever, to let your predictions play out in a natural fashion.

The reality is, you're dreading the increasing likelihood that you're wrong, so you're having to scramble around desperately trying to get to a position of parity to escape the possibility of massive losses and the loss of any remnant of reputation you have left.

The more you post the more it proves how lacking in confidence you are in your position. This is intensely satisfying for me and many others I'm sure, so I'm hoping to see an ever increasing number of posts from your gang, as your desperation increases prior to your position being wiped out.

By the way, I'm still waiting for answers to the simple questions I've asked you 5 times. I note you're buddy or alternative alias Jimbo posted a very comical reply, suggesting that Neill will be duped by the Chinese because he doesn't understand Mandarin (I wish I could attach the audio recording of me chortling away reading that comment), but no direct responses on anything from you yet. Come on engage positively and use your superior intelligence to educate me why I've got this so badly wrong.

[alchemy] 25/10/2019 10:01

Vodafone trying to catch Canary Wharf traders to London Bridge and Waterloo?

[alchemy] 25/10/2019 09:57

Ok I was fishing

[alchemy] 25/10/2019 09:55

The heights beckon, we need to bridge across results though they might please to the upside.We'll have more measurements ( contemporary- metrics) soon.O t If you haven't been to the Bowes museum in County Durham you must. Imho . Founder put 30 000 on his horse came in at 25:1 ...In the 1800s.

[johnveals] 25/10/2019 09:33

Yet more FUD from the ‘uninvested217;. Why do they wish to drive down the share price, there is only one possible explanation, they are playing a zero sum game with VRS shareholders.