Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[red7al] 24/10/2019 20:38

Roger, what makes you think this is one seller and how would you know they are "on fumes"?

[rogerthegrouch] 24/10/2019 19:49

Rainbow you’ve played this record a few times now and we smash through a quid every time. You posting has always proved a good omen for a big blue day so thank you.

Whilst I couldn’t give a stuff about short term price movement, it’s not rocket science to see this is going north in a big way soon, which could well start tomorrow as the seller is running on fumes.

[woodpeckers] 24/10/2019 18:34

Evergreen, you are quite correct in your interpretation. As I see it, supernumerary was suggesting that because Avanzare were involved in the EU PolyGraph project, they are now producing and marketing products similar to Polygrene.

I haven't as yet seen any evidence of that and the pages he produced, as you say, suggest that they have not been able to do so.

[luckyorange] 24/10/2019 18:07

Did you miss me supernum lol. Remember when you were saying how marvellous VRS was in the early days and then sold out for a couple of pence reward, since that day you have been on about other companies that are so much better.... like Haydale.... hope nobody was sucked in by yours and Timbo's ramping there because they will have lost their shirt.

[laginaneil] 24/10/2019 18:05

Evening folks,
VRS speaking 20 min. Sorry if posted already.

[grabster] 24/10/2019 17:55

Many financial websites show a Results date that merely echoes the date they came out the previous year - until advised differently by the company. Hence 6 Dec being indicated by some. I have seen them do this even when such dates fall on a Sunday.

[2dinvestor] 24/10/2019 17:47

Seriously mate, share price to one side, read back what you just wrote and have a long hard think about how others perceive you.

[scottishfield] 24/10/2019 17:36

Just in: frustrating, yes, end of the world, er I don't think so. Rather, a few more to gather in the morning. Best of luck all LTH's.

[matheus7777] 24/10/2019 17:31

Interim results estimated November according to VRS websitehTTp://www.versarien.com/investors/financial-calendar/

[alchemy] 24/10/2019 17:29

Actually results 6th December so a while yet though the company should know them.

[loglorry1] 24/10/2019 17:28

Roger bless him isn't a very good investor but I love his cartoons.

Every time the price falls he desperately ramps everywhere he can think of and spends ages doing cartoons for Twitter.

I guess he's miles underwater - I hope he hasn't bet (I mean invested) more than he can afford to lose.

[alchemy] 24/10/2019 17:14

The revenue from 12kg sale should be in there. Maybe other smaller sales e g AECOM S o w s , so first glimpse at absolute turnover growth and a fuzzy look at contribution?

[evergreen8] 24/10/2019 17:13

WP Thank you for the Link to the Polygraph Article.

I think that I must be misinterpreting your discussion with Supernumerary who I thought was founding on the Polygraph web-pages to suggest that Polygraph are now directly competing with Versarien in the supply of Graphene enhanced Polymers.

Rather than supporting Supernumerary's position the Polygraph Article clearly states that they do not have the technology to mass produce Graphene enhanced Polymer.

Conversely VRS uniquely DO HAVE the technology able to meet industrial scale demand.

If I have misinterpreted the conversation please accept my apologies.

Polygraph Extract Follows:-

".................it remains the case that there are no techniques suitable for industrial-scale production of graphene-reinforced polymers.

Specifically, the following issues remain:

Current graphene production processes are typically low yield, energy intensive, time consuming and often use large amounts of solvent - as a result, the cost of graphene remains prohibitively expensive for many industries
Incorporation and uniform distribution of graphene in low-viscosity thermosetting polymers has not yet been demonstrated on an industrial scale
Conventional composite, coating and adhesive processing techniques have not yet been optimised to ensure that graphene remains uniformly distributed during processing"

[clint fleecewood] 24/10/2019 17:09

Roger, please don't. that is just tempting fate!

[billwave] 24/10/2019 17:05

"One of the most reassuring and refreshing reasons I'm heavily invested in Versarien is the fact that you can almost guarantee there will never be a bad news RNS. Most other shares on AIM you wake up in fear of that RNS, in case its yet another placing or some other catastrophe to devastate your holding"

You mean because they have not yet achieved anything tangible or produced any revenue base that can be diminished or taken away? You prefer the slow but steady diminishment of your investment due to what amounts to incompetence by management to get a single deal across the table?

"The business is in exceptional health, delivering superbly against its strategy and has a pipeline of juicy, and importantly positive, RNSs to come"

You mean like the other 374 previously released RNS's that have resulted in little more than a total lack of confidence in NR and VRS to deliver anything of monetary value?

"When you see a stream of sells like the 10ks we see in the trade history on other shares it is more often than not a leak of bad news and folks getting out. However, we can be almost certain that is not the case with VRS as the chances of bad news is incredibly thin (think width of graphene thin)

Our 10k seller is a large holder derisking (at completely the wrong time imo) as they have no doubt been influenced by the lies and fantasy dreamt up by the detractors and proliferated by greedy individuals in private twitter groups"

It takes no lies, fantasy and little imagination to quote factual statements and truths that are there for all to see. The unquantifiable and unfathomable projections of some on here however fit your description well.

"Whatever the reason for the persistent selling, it has nothing to do with the business as that is fully financed, fulfilling the strategy and exceeding expectations. If you are at all tempted to sell i would strongly recommend reaching out to Neill to discuss.

The seller is running on fumes and I foresee a strong bounce, a juicy RNS at the top of that bounce would be a delight"

Well if ever there is awards to be given for good examples of self delusion, posts as this one just about take them. I admire the show of positivity in the face of adversity however. Regards.

[wuzy] 24/10/2019 17:01

Cheers Alchemy, I'm completely confident and sleep very easy Vrs are building a massive co and not just deals in insignificant amounts he/ they want the really big,massive deals and that's what they are achieving we will catch up and overtake the market when deals are completed, yes l too am unhappy with current share price but it will come and we will be rewarded.

[dreamtwister] 24/10/2019 17:00

no complaints !

[alchemy] 24/10/2019 16:55

I'll try to find ....

[rogerthegrouch] 24/10/2019 16:54

Adejuk - highly recommend reaching out to neill via email or meeting him for a coffee to chat about VRS. Your dribble would warm up in no time.

[club sandwich] 24/10/2019 16:48

Ade - then I would expect a public mea culpa from Ricketts and a clear, believable timeline to revenues and profitability. And if he doesn't meet that timeline once more I would expect him to step down. When did this awareness that he'd got it wrong materialise, do you think - before or after he said he hoped to deliver a BIGT deal by the AGM?

[wuzy] 24/10/2019 16:47

Yes can you remember what date last Nov, haven't been able to find it.

[alchemy] 24/10/2019 16:44

I'm positive I'm a bull. But! Just to point out the results to September are due soon. In conventional (sic) terms they may not flatter , so what you point out may be awry by just one RNS as viewed by some others .

[adejuk] 24/10/2019 16:43

but you may be wrong !