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[rogerthegrouch] 23/10/2019 10:25

Open your eyes then Ian - I just explained with this one client (Aecom) how VRS are fulfilling that strategy of diverisfication and establishing foot holds.

Don't ignore the word 'future' and stop acting like that spoilt brat Veruca Salt in Willy Wonka "I want it now".

Let it play out as intended. Good things come to those who wait and in the meantime, go and spend some time with your family and take a breather from following stocks and let others enjoy the ride in peace. Genuinely concerned about your mental health.

[mavfav] 23/10/2019 10:16

RTG top post fella and clear and almost conciseI couldn't argue with anything you wrote and it's clear to those that read it the direction of travel I know nooothing

[club sandwich] 23/10/2019 10:16

"Did you know, Concrete is the second most consumed material on earth after water?"

I didn't know that, but it dosn't surprise me.

"A key part of the Strategy is to safeguard investors and the company through diversification and establishing strong foot-holds with giant global companies for enormous and sustained future incomes across a range of products."

I'll believe it when I see it...

[schmally] 23/10/2019 10:15

Club, stop assuming you think the same way as everyone else. You don't, in fact you're part of a very small minority, with views that aren't shared by the majority.

Your comment, "I want to retire and live an easy life. anyone who says they don't is a liar..." is also at odds with many people's view of life and retirement in general. It's just that you can't recognise other people's views or aspirations.

Many people enjoy their work and a significant % choose to continue working when they could retire and live an "easy life". To suddenly detach yourself from your workplace, colleagues of many years and a fulfilling and rewarding job is for some a very unattractive prospect. Just because your job may be tedious, unrewarding or stressful(having contracted previously, I sympathise that finding new contracts at your age is probably increasingly challenging), it's not the same for everyone else.

Sure, I'd like to retire from my current job early, but I don't want to fade away living an "easy life" and never work again in any form. I want to challenge myself to do something more fulfilling, that I enjoy and that hopefully has a positive impact on others. Easy is boring, whereas challenging can be rewarding, as is hard work with a tangible end result. If VRS helps provide me with the funds to be more adventurous, or generous in retirement, then that simply opens up more options. Maybe, retirees with VRS fortunes, will help their children with their careers/business ventures, maybe they'll start up little businesses of their own, or do some charity work, who knows.

IMO, an "easy life" equates to early onset of old age and ill health, whereas an active and challenging "semi" retirement would hopefully help keep me healthy, fulfilled and most importantly happy

In summary, STFU and stop trying to talk on behalf of others that quite frankly find your views, comments and behaviour generally abhorrent.

[rogerthegrouch] 23/10/2019 10:11

Ian - I prefer not to engage trolls but on your Aecom point is a fair question.

As everyone is aware, the Arch is in the final phases of test but having recently won a prestigious global award and an official launch by Aecom, one could safely assume its well on the way to passing or indeed passed the tests with flying colours.

The Arches are dependent on the end customer signing an order. In this case it appears to be TfL for the 4 Lines Modernisation Programme (google it, its massive £££). Following that, other government organisations and corporate entities will no doubt join the queue to get their hands on the infamous Arch.

In the meantime, the team are making use of the time, by developing the Mast and concrete products. Did you know, Concrete is the second most consumed material on earth after water?

A key part of the Strategy is to safeguard investors and the company through diversification and establishing strong foot-holds with giant global companies for enormous and sustained future incomes across a range of products.

[club sandwich] 23/10/2019 10:02

Roger - and in fact I would turn your point exactly round: why WOULD you wait until everything was in place before unveling any of it? Of course you may wish to do so to steal a march on the competition with a big reveal, but there's also the opportunity cost of the business/revenue you lose in the time taken putting the masterplan together.

[billwave] 23/10/2019 09:55

Pshevlin - regurgitation of old news is something that is common on here, something that the dozen or so cult followers do to try and keep theirselves feeling all warm and tingly given NR's history of non delivery and a share price that despite all the hype and promises is below January 2018 prices. The 4th industrial revolution may well be here but take a look at VRS accounts and order book, unfortunately they are playing no commercial roll in it. And for clarity, many of the deals and deadlines that have been promised but do not arrive are now justified by the excuse they are getting bigger, how convenient, really? Several years in the making, no sales, no revenue, no orders, no capability to produce orders of any magnitude even if they arrived. Take a look at daily trade frequency and volumes, it's only the regular day dream believers that are buying. Last chance to buy under a quid? Been said numerous times over the last couple of years, listen up, if none of the expected news that constantly remains just around the corner arrives soon, there will be plenty of opportunity to top up under 90p on the way down.

[jointer13] 23/10/2019 09:51

ahhh I see...I meant to put the link in...I normally do.

just pointing out the hard work of the secondees...the clue is in the first line.

"a hard working team...the importance of the secondees."

just goes to show though...some not even knowing about the japanese rns...ah well.

[squire007] 23/10/2019 09:49

I will take that deal. :-)

[club sandwich] 23/10/2019 09:44

and yeah, sure I want to retire and live an easy life. anyone who says they don't is a liar...

[eel tamer] 23/10/2019 09:43

Spot on, Roger! THIS is what newcomers need to know and for LTHs to remind themselves of. This is not a get quick rich scheme, it's the building of a business behemoth on a global scale.

[club sandwich] 23/10/2019 09:43

"Take Aecom for example, which is conducting final tests of a prototype which would no doubt equate to a sizable deal. However, instead of just getting that done and dusted, or worse rushing it through, so that you can pay your tax bill or sail off into the sunset off the back of Neill and teams hard work, they have nurtured the relationship and ended up with an agreement with concrete, arguably a much bigger prize."

see, that's the flaw in your logic. Why not sign a deal for arches and THEN explore concrete? Which business *doesn't* want to get cashflow going, revenues feeding through to the bottom line? Arches and concrete are two completely differene businesses - so yes, failing to get arches nailed is a massive failure by Ricketts. Get one area signed up THEN move onto the next...

[rogerbridge] 23/10/2019 09:38

Well said Roger, it’s why I remain fully invested and sleep easy at night.

[schmally] 23/10/2019 09:30

PShelvin, The fact you were unaware of that previous Japan RNS simply displays your lack of awareness regarding activity and news flow. Considering you're supposed to be a LTH, it's disappointing that you don't seem to pay much attention to what's going on. However, despite your apparent ignorance, you still seem happy to express your dissatisfaction with what you perceive to be a lack of progress. Hmmm!

[rogerbridge] 23/10/2019 09:14

Hattie, that is one of the many strengths of VRS.

We are not looking at becoming a mid cap or UK blue chip company, we are developing into a global major.

The vast majority of investors understand the company strategy by 2+2 must equal 4 and it has been explained to those who are prepared to listen, attend investor days and the AGM.

With the help of the UK government and high flying secondees, we are developing links at the highest level in China, USA, Japan, Korea, Europe and elsewhere.

There will be VRS collaborations and manufacturing companies in these countries to support global majors who demand strong but flexible links and production facilities in the countries they operate in.

Personally, I am prepared to wait for this plan to come into fruition. Neill is looking 5 years ahead, not the next few months some detractors are interested in.

I am not interested in trading and although I would like to see the share price higher, it makes no difference to me as I do not intend to sell any had have had the odd top up and will continue to do so as funds allow.

There is an enormous amount of activity going on in China, evident to those who are prepared to investigate.A big thank you to those who have shared some of this information.

The 4th industrial revolution is here, we are at the forefront and I am going to enjoy the ride after we get over a few bumps and onto the open road.

Enjoy.

[eel tamer] 23/10/2019 09:05

They should also be aware that you are mentally ill and like to threaten people.

[club sandwich] 23/10/2019 09:02

There's only one thing any newcomer needs to know: that the CEO has zero credibility, that he endlessly over-promises but delivers nothing.

[pshevlin] 23/10/2019 09:02

Fine hattie, then it should make that plain so as not to present it as current news to newcomers on th board. Current news is rather in short supply.

[hattie1] 23/10/2019 08:53

Hardly a con trick it’s pointing out the global reach we have particularly for any newcomers to the board

[pshevlin] 23/10/2019 08:51

Thanks Hattie. I wish people would stop putting up old news without saying when it was from. It's almost a con trick.

[hattie1] 23/10/2019 08:38

RNS 8/7/19 re Japan ...

[pshevlin] 23/10/2019 08:33

Where is that from Jointer? Not an RNS.