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[club sandwich] 23/10/2019 11:37

"I am also unhappy with slow rate of progress"

for 'slow' read 'non-existent'...

[pshevlin] 23/10/2019 11:35

He probably was...yesterday.

[rheumking] 23/10/2019 11:34

Graham 6 posts since September generally negative and then suddenly leaves
Now that to me looks like he may not be fully committed to his investment
Billwave tactics more subtle than loglorry but reading his recent posts they are obviously from the same stable.
All for balance and I am also unhappy with slow rate of progress but posters with no skin in the game obviously only have one agenda as they drip constant negativity.Best recognised for what they are .

[nellyb] 23/10/2019 11:33

Grahamsmalls - yesterday you said: "I’m a long term holder here....." Today you said: "Sold my entire holding this morning. Enough is enough". LOL.

[1teepee] 23/10/2019 11:24

I thought you were a old git;) very modern thoughts indeed

[melf] 23/10/2019 11:22

This is probably more informative Anley.

[eel tamer] 23/10/2019 11:12

Bye! Good luck in your next endeavour!

[woodpeckers] 23/10/2019 11:12

Pshevlin - "He said that he believed that the main problems were keeping the costs down and that aluminium was the best way of doing that at present even though some testing may be underway. That could well be the problem with many of the products under development and in the meantime other solutions could be discovered."

Neill has explained that they talk money as it were at the beginning of collaborations so that they know that they are on the same page and don't waste company time.

[rogerthegrouch] 23/10/2019 11:09

Don't lie LuckyO - I bought them

[anley] 23/10/2019 11:09

Here is the possible AECOM deal for arches................




2022 work is to finish!!!!!

[luckyorange] 23/10/2019 11:08

Goodbye Graham and good luck , I just bought some of yours then lol.

[grahamsmalls] 23/10/2019 11:01

Sold my entire holding this morning. Enough is enough.

[pshevlin] 23/10/2019 11:00

I'm hanging on for the time being Hattie just in case we do get some news. Doesn't mean I'm completely happy with the progress. There are two sides to every coin and some on here are just gazing at one of them.

[club sandwich] 23/10/2019 10:56

and if i ever turns out that the China deal - or any other deal - was delayed because of Brexit, and s'holders weren't told, I hope Ricketts gets buried by a class action suit...

[rogerthegrouch] 23/10/2019 10:56

Tweedledum and Tweedledee - its in one ear and out the other with you chaps. Some cant be helped, others get it who are thankfully in the vast majority. Can you two go and spoon each other on a different thread? Take Teepee for a 3-way?

[loglorry1] 23/10/2019 10:55

Billwave you make a good point.

I guess everyone knows how I feel about what VRS has IP wise vs what Ricketts claims to have so there's no point going over it again and again (although I might ;-) )

However obviously I'm not certain and they may have a world class product and protection of that product to prevent other entrants. It's possible but highly unlikely given the evidence to date.

So the best strategy must be to sit on the sidelines and wait for material sales to drop from proper orders. You may well then pay over £1 for shares but so what at least you've preserved your capital until evidence shows that they have a product which will sell in volume at good gross margins (assuming they ever disclose that).

[hattie1] 23/10/2019 10:52

Seriously pshelvin just sell and move on if you feel that way

[club sandwich] 23/10/2019 10:51

pshevlin - absolutely. first-mover adavantage, capture the high ground, premium pricing etc etc etc. VRS needs to pull its finger out NOW!

[pshevlin] 23/10/2019 10:49

Whatever peoples views on here there is only one measure of the faith in this company and unfortunately for us the balance is in the wrong direction at the moment. I personally cannot understand why some of the "smaller" deals have not come to fruition by now. I was talking to a manager in Germany a couple of days ago for a company that supplies Airbus . I asked him about the possibility of using the qualities of Graphene to improve the product. He said that he believed that the main problems were keeping the costs down and that aluminium was the best way of doing that at present even though some testing may be underway. That could well be the problem with many of the products under development and in the meantime other solutions could be discovered. That is why I am not as complacent as many on here. Time IS of the essence and we don't have YEARS to get these projects off the ground.

[club sandwich] 23/10/2019 10:44

"I just explained with this one client (Aecom) how VRS are fulfilling that strategy of diverisfication and establishing foot holds"

but you haven't xplained how, with c100 collabs of various kinds, NONE of them have yet led to significant comercialisation. you'd have thought by the sheer law of averages *one* of them would have led to a significant contract by now - but nope, nothing...

[billwave] 23/10/2019 10:43

And if the day dream believers are keene to make potential new investors aware of the current state of VRS then perhaps they would instead of regurgitating old news describe how the share price was very masterly hyped from 60p to 180p with nothing but the almost non stop suggestions of exciting possibilities, delivered with NR's exuberance via Twitter, VOX interviews and REACH RNS's. Then perhaps list just how much of that has actually been realised by way of revenue? I could save you the trouble by answering the last bit now. Absolute and total diddly squat, laughable. Having realised his tactic was no longer enough to even maintain the dwindling share price he's resorted to silence. It's almost worked as now his following of day dream believers are almost whipping each other into a frenzy as they have convinced theirselves that his silence must equate to much happening behind the scenes and huge news about to drop at any time. Honestly, you couldn't make this up.

[dolores123] 23/10/2019 10:42

Looks like a small number of people are trading this within a narrow range to make relatively small profit.

[superg1] 23/10/2019 10:31

Aecom arch

Some of the testing was described as superficial/not needed.
Then bear in mind they were due to launch it months before they ever started the test run.
That test is about wind, tolerances and so on.
There is no rain, ice, snow, wrong type of leaves etc on the underground.

The other product had similar staff and labour saving issues.

The start of Aecom finding countless gains by using such enhanced products.