Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[1teepee] 25/8/2019 19:20

hTTps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Unr3Eu8RpcI've always needed an ice slicer

[1teepee] 25/8/2019 19:20

hTTps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Unr3Eu8RpcI've always needed an ice slicer

[grabster] 25/8/2019 19:04

This is the 2D lab equipment company that Ray Gibbs has moved to after quitting Haydale and selling his shares.:

[grabster] 25/8/2019 15:42

You do have to scroll a long way down past unrelated content to reach the Comments regarding that Mail article on medical uses for graphene. But when you get there (and click "See All"), several posters have mentioned Versarien.




EDIT: Viewed on some devices, there is a shortcut button to the Comments section - near the top of the story.

[loglorry1] 25/8/2019 15:08

"I have absolutely no reason not to trust him with my cash."

Good for you. I wish you every success.

Pity Neill doesn't trust himself quite so implicitly. He's put in only £5k of his hard earned and taken out in share sales alone about 50 -100x that so far.

It will be interesting to see what happens here. I hope honest folk who have placed their trust in VRS management don't lose all their money in the same way those who trusted Amit Be Haim of CTAG, Chris Cleverly of African Potash, Zaza M. of Frontera to name a few did. I seem to remember these guys being held in high esteem at the time too.

[forestfred] 25/8/2019 15:06

Harrysol

Usual weekend entertainment .

If it helps log lorry and their likes have been spouting off since about 20-30p .

Each time with different one sided agenda

Im taking my chances with NR -Aecom verified graphene quality and the rest of the global companies in collaborations with Vrs and many other reasons I chose to invest .
Good weekend all .
Ff

[tim3416] 25/8/2019 14:43

Lol bbm. Still waiting for your difficult question? Getting Tim Kempster to think of one for you doesn't count by the way. I know you haven't got me filtered really ;-)

[bbmsionlypostafter] 25/8/2019 14:39

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[tim3416] 25/8/2019 14:25

No need to bite Tim I am grateful for a reasoned bear case. It does seem though that you have already made your mind up that VRS is not going to be successful just as a lot of investors believe it will be successful. Whatever the BIGT deal is I suspect you and others will attempt to spin it negatively. This is probably mainly based on your previous experience of other aim companies that have promised much and delivered little.
Nobody really knows what is going to happen here (who does when investing) but I believe VRS has a good a chance as any at being successful based on all information currently available. That is why I and many others have chosen to invest our hard earned cash here.
If you are not short and not invested here I do wonder why you are so interested in talking the company down almost as if you want it to fail? Why? You and TW really do seem to have made it personal. When I look at some of the other companies currently being promoted/pumped on here and on twitter currently I am surprised you still choose to focus on VRS.
As for hero worship, I don’t know about that but I do think Neill Ricketts is a fantastic down to earth, approachable CEO and I have absolutely no reason not to trust him with my cash.

[aquaesulis01] 25/8/2019 14:24

log, why are BIGT even remotely interested in VRS if Chinese company Sixth Elements are the answer to a maiden's prayer?

[laginaneil] 25/8/2019 14:14

Another 'battery' article on company 'Echion'.

[loglorry1] 25/8/2019 13:18

Ok I'll bite "What will that deal do for the company if it is concluded successfully?"

I imagine if BIGT buy 15pc equity stake in VRS at a market price premium where £30m sterling in cash arrives back in a UK bank account current shareholders will be delighted. It will certainly shut me up and I'm happy to say publicly it's goes a long way to validating the current market cap.

However, if we see a convoluted deal where BIGT put in some sort of "asset" like factory space in China into the JV in lieu of cash or if some or all of the cash they put in resides in China or the JV then it's pretty clear what that means. I imagine current shareholders will be given the opportunity to invest on the same terms although I doubt many have a chinese factory to throw into the pot, Bless. Maybe even Neill will graciously offer some of his own personal holdings to satisfy the demand.

Whatever the deal is if and when it transpires the usual promoters will be called in to support it.

One also wonders why VRS needs £30m? What's wrong with just selling their graphene or licensing their production technology. They even suggested in a recent interview they were perusing an ARM type model. Why not sell close to home.

Talking of Chinese interest. Tungshu seem very quiet although I see they've just invested £1m in a different UK graphene company.

You may think I'm a little suspicious. Well only last year we saw a deal. Gnanomat was a company which was on the brink and desperately needing cash.VRS first bought shares in Ganoman solving its immediate cash problem then using VRS paper bought a 62pc stake. The transaction made no sense. As a happy coincidence VRS just happened to raise £5m off the back of it. Nothing much from Gnanomat since. People outside of the VRS promoters tell me Gnanomat has nothing of value. I guess you'll laugh at that because Neill and other promoters tell you otherwise. Whatever.

[bdog51] 25/8/2019 13:09

A couple of Versarien mentions in the comments section of that DM article on Graphene. Interesting article too.

[tim3416] 25/8/2019 12:31

Well I can't really be bothered either then Tim but I do notice you tactfully avoided my question to you whilst answering on behalf of terry topper and bbm who obviously can't think of a difficult question. I'll repeat for you...- Neill is focussing on a key few collabs to start with but look at aecom developments. What will that deal do for the company if it is concluded successfully? What do you think will happen here when the Chinese invest 20-30m in VRS? I'm sure you'll say that won't happen but what if it does? -Also why on earth would the company divulge to you or their competitors how much they are selling their Nanene for at this stage in the companies development? That's not a difficult question it's just something the company are not prepared to divulge at the moment. Investing in this company is about so much more than price per gram of Nanene and that's probably why you just don't get it. PS I also never said you were short

[melf] 25/8/2019 11:40

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7390611/amp/One-million-times-thinner-human-hair-medical-miracle-cure-blind.html

[johnveals] 25/8/2019 11:32

I can't be bothered either.

[loglorry1] 25/8/2019 11:09

Tim a lot to respond to there in your post and despite what you think I can't really be bothered saying too much.

You said amongst all your hero worshipping "As I say the bears don’t really have a difficult question for Neill they just attacking his credibility and honesty."

I posed the question on pricing. It's never been answered. We are just fobbed off with "as much as we can get" or "it's confidential" or "years ago we had Maclaren buy at ¥10,000 a kg for a 1 million pound watch". What's wrong with a straight answer as we get from other producers?

I can see you like to regurgitate excuses as to why there are no sales or why the school didn't get the money of which there are so many.


As for being short. I wish! There's no borrow.

[bbmsionlypostafter] 25/8/2019 10:41

Bulls lining up to tell loglorry 'in Neill we Trust', 'get back in your hole, shorter', 'it'll be different this time'.

LOLZ!

Meanwhile, £40K in magic potion revenues, >£150MILLION valuation, a CEO who spends his day ramping on twitter, who buys meaningless softball interviews with VOX but runs scared when asked to face up to a critic & answer hard questions.

The crash here is going to be spectacular.

[1teepee] 25/8/2019 10:19

I think zap n go is meant to be 30 secs charge. Aiming at the moment though

[grabster] 25/8/2019 10:15

Ian is certainly right about the energy of the company; it would be easy to name ten companies whose pipeline of activity and news when combined comes to less than this one company.

It feels like the starting grid of an F1 race. Palpable tension. All engines noisily running, all drivers' eyes tensely focussed on the lights, waiting to roar away. All twelve teams representing different Versarien collaborators.

[1teepee] 25/8/2019 09:49

Filtered loggy

[1teepee] 25/8/2019 09:49

The more rubbish I see, the easier it is to identity

[tim3416] 25/8/2019 09:43

Tim don't be ridiculous! VRS are not just some factory producing rubber gaskets at 10p a pop, you know that. All deals and agreements are going to be different in quality, quantity, licensing agreements etc and despite what you say the majority of collabs have been active for less than 18 months as you well know. The school science block issue has been answered by Neill and confirmed by the recipients as being delayed as I recall. Absolutely no reason to dispute that unless you are calling Neill a liar or dishonest? Neill works bloody hard for the company his family and investors it seems to me.Even so that has nothing to do with how VRS are performing as an investment. Neill is building a business in a brand new sector and has announced a large number of collaborations that are ongoing. Again it's only a matter of opinion whether those should have come to fruition by now as no one outside the company really knows what they entail or what the outcome will be. If these drag on with no progress then the share price will suffer no doubt. But again there is no reason to think they won't end in a deal. At the moment people are prepared to pay 1.20 per share and the BIGT want 15% of VRS at a premium.Not all of them will materialise of course which is is why Neill is focussing on a key few collabs to start with but look at aecom developments. What will that deal do for the company if it is concluded successfully? What do you think will happen here when the Chinese invest 20-30m in VRS? I'm sure you'll say that won't happen but what if it does? As I say the bears don't really have a difficult question for Neill they just attacking his credibility and honesty. I'm sure you are a very intelligent person but like TW you seem to have made this a personal vendetta against Neill and co which i think will prove to be a mistake.

[ewads] 25/8/2019 09:25

Update on his investments, Ian Cowie (The Times), is not happy with his paper loss but still optimistic :-

"Versarien is a great British tiddler,seeking to commercialise the wonder material Graphene. I am embarrassed by a paper loss of 33% but encouraged by the energy of the Gloucestershire firm".
He just needs patience like the rest of us.