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[chumbo1] 17/4/2019 08:24

Polygrene has yet to be mentioned?

[ellissj] 17/4/2019 08:22

Vrs 2D products Good to go ! Best ellis

"..Any such Versarien Chinese subsidiary would be focussed on the manufacture of Versarien's graphene and other 2D materials in China and their sale to Chinese customers, working in collaboration with BIGT..."

[diversification] 17/4/2019 08:20

China has an abundance of graphite. Availability is not an issue that for sure.

[owenga] 17/4/2019 08:17

It's not an issue that ever seems to get discussed here, but where does VRS source it's raw material graphite from? Will there be supply issues if VRS starts producing the level of graphene we are all hoping for?

[nico115] 17/4/2019 08:16

I'm a big fan of Simons !! However don't think he's interested : (Your stalking of me is more worrying than any hearts I send out !!

[1teepee] 17/4/2019 08:07

I think he had to sell them.

[ellissj] 17/4/2019 07:57

Looks like graphene composites and the other graphene applications listed on that 'day 3 conference quote' are the near term interest. How much of the graphene aluminium and graphene ceramics being researched under mou's with UoM comes across or the timelines which are involved, unsure at present. Progress being made there it seems. Aimo. Dyor. Glalth. Best ellis

"...The University of Manchester has enormous expertise and the best facilities for working with the material," said Chen Lifang, a corporate senior vice-president at Huawei.

Elsewhere within the NGI's labyrinth of laboratories, Xiao Ping is leading a project for the Beijing Institute of Aeronautical Materials, or BIAM, which is a subsidiary of the Aero Engine Corporation of China.

The project he is working on is looking to accelerate the use of graphene in the aviation industry.

"Right now, we are focused on fundamental research," said Xiao. "And we have found that graphene can be used as an additive to increase the performance of several other materials."

Xiao's research has shown that graphene can prevent the growth of cracks in ceramics, which are used in internal combustion engines...."

[nico115] 17/4/2019 07:55

What happens to VRS if Tesla falls to 20 bucks which is my price target there?Must say I have got this wrong so far and well done Mr Ricketts Although tweeting many times a day how undervalues we are and then selling stock /options is immoral and very wrong

[1teepee] 17/4/2019 07:54

hTTps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bZh-CEgHaH4

[1teepee] 17/4/2019 07:54

hTTps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bZh-CEgHaH4Please don't steal our ip

[grabster] 17/4/2019 07:54

Picking up on that point about established companies such as Kodak stubbornly resisting the uptake of new technologies, to their own eventual detriment.

On Versarien's doorstep in Cheltenham there's an old example.

Cheltenham had several brickmaking companies. Pilford Brick was one of them.
Towards the end of the 19th century, their local rivals - Battledown Brick and others - proudly announced that they had invested in new brickmaking machinery to grab a greater share of the housebuilding and factory building markets. Pilford's owner scoffed, saying that the outlay would cripple those rivals leaving the field clear for themselves. But what they regarded as rivals' extravagance paid off - Pilford lost business and in 1907 ceased production.

In my historic collection of salvaged bricks I have a few stamped with the Pilford name on one face and Cheltenham on the opposite face. (To supplement my pension I polish some of them up, add an iron handle, and sell them as historic doorstops in the areas they came from).

(Scroll down page 18a for photo of a Pilford brick ) (and page 5 for the Cheltenham name that appears on the opposite face )

PS: I have some other Gloucestershire bricks - including rare ones from Forest Of Dean - but would love to get hold of more Cheltenham ones ;-)

[ellissj] 17/4/2019 07:42

And as mentioned other day, chinese aerospace and engine firms majority shareholders in the innovation centre, per this quote. Best ellis

"...The Beijing Graphene Industry Innovation Center, in which AECC BIAM is the majority shareholder, was set up in April 2017 by Beijing Institute of Graphene Technology (BIGT) and Z-Park Graphene Industry Alliance in China’s ‘Silicon Valley.’..."

[ellissj] 17/4/2019 07:38

Given biam/acc/chinese govt helped to establish bigt - and in turn this innovation centre - you can see why graphene composites are important - re aerospace. Aimo. Best ellis.

'Beijing sets up innovation center to accelerate graphene industrialization.'

Source: Xinhua| 2017-04-11

"BEIJING, April 11 (Xinhua) -- A graphene industry innovation center was established Tuesday in Beijing, aiming to become a world-class graphene composite technology research and industrial incubator hub.

Graphene is a flat sheet of one-atom-thick carbon with the carbon atoms arranged in a honeycomb lattice. Since it was first successfully isolated in 2004, it has been lauded for its outstanding potential in fields such as energy, high-tech materials, sensors, and optoelectronic devices.

Beijing Graphene Industry Innovation Center will take the advantage of Beijing's innovative resources to research and develop cutting-edge new materials. It hopes to speed up the transformation of scientific research achievements and enhance the graphene industry.

In China, which has substantial graphite deposits, more than 500 companies already specialize in graphene products.

China expects to establish a comprehensive graphene industry system by 2020, according to a plan drafted by the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, the National Development and Reform Commission, and the Ministry of Science and Technology in 2015."

[1teepee] 17/4/2019 07:30

Still testing

[ellissj] 17/4/2019 07:26

Hew, sorry for delay. It was the same building. Bgi and Bigt in it, comprising the innovation application centre per below. This conference sets out the ambition of this graphene 'alliance.' Note the intl guest list; foreign investors plus graphene 'big cheeses.' And day three visit to the innovation centre, the scope of graphene research and applications focus. Aimo. Dyor. Best ellis.

"2018 Beijing-Tianjin-Hebei Graphene International Summit & Beijing Fangshan New Material Industry Innovative Development Promotion Conference

Time: November 15th-17th, 2018...."



"....The third day: November 17th

Field visit

9:00-11:00 Inviting relevant leaders, experts and business representatives to visit the key functional parks in Beijing Graphene Industry Innovation Center pilot test base, and negotiate separately with key enterprises.

Beijing Graphene Industry Innovation Center is mainly composed of Beijing Institute of Graphene Technology, (# bigt - vrs partner#) Beijing Graphene Institute and CIGIU, which forms a “one body and two wings” pattern. It has gathered the advantages of optimal resources, built a multi-level talent incentive mechanism, established a “public intelligence” R&D model, and a shared industrial public land.

'Graphene Projects.'

Graphene film with large-sized & volume production technology

Graphene Applied Technology Research: Graphene Rubber Materials

Graphene Applied Technology Research: graphene paint and coating materials

Graphene Applied Technology Research: CFRP

Graphene Applied Technology Research: wear resistance technology

Graphene Applied Technology Resources: Aluminum alloy cable

Graphene nano-flakes (GNFs) & GNFs surface molecular modification technology"

[superg1] 17/4/2019 07:22

Lovat

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Using nanotechnology and advanced materials may be necessary just to keep up with their competitors and their customer requirements, let alone take the lead.


Exactly, standing still could finish a few businesses.

Kodak had a great idea and invented the digital camera which then destroyed them. Mad that they knew it was coming by their own hand and they failed to adapt and prosper.



Kodak's marketing department, however, resisted it, according to the Times. Sasson was told they "could" sell the camera, but that they wouldn't, for fear it would cannibalize film sales. At the time, Kodak made money off of every step of the photography business. Why give that up?

"When we built that camera, the argument was over," Sasson told The New York Times. "It was just a matter of time, and yet Kodak didn't really embrace any of it. That camera never saw the light of day."

Kodak did make money off of the digital camera patent — billions in fact — until it ran out in 2007. But by the time the company embraced digital, it was too late. Kodak filed for bankruptcy in 2012.

[ayl30] 17/4/2019 07:22

Wasn't Unilever an early partner looking at packaging use? Nothing heard for a long while from Neill re this

[1teepee] 17/4/2019 07:17

Wasn't jinan prepared to invest 55million pounds or yuan?

[lovat scout] 17/4/2019 07:16

To add to SG’s points, for many companies using nanotechnology and advanced materials may be necessary just to keep up with their competitors and their customer requirements, let alone take the lead. For example, if a nanotechnology company can provide a method for reducing the amount of plastic in milk or soft drink bottles, possibly with a biodegradable element too, all companies will have to adopt the process otherwise their customer base will desert them. Interesting times!

Bobsworth - the amount of funding needed for the China project is probably fixed so the share issuance size will be a function of the share price at the time. The level Gnanomat paid would be a minimum for me.

AIMHO etc.

[luckykids] 17/4/2019 07:10

Their choice will be to hang out for as much as they can which we think would be great or if the opportunity is too good to miss let it through cheaper.The latter choice may cause consternation with us but only they can judge the benefits.Afterall this is a land grab. Once we are in products people won't want to change easily due to all the testing and quality concerns.

[luckykids] 17/4/2019 07:06

No idea Bob. But we know Neill and Chris will choose what is right for our company

[1teepee] 17/4/2019 07:02

Later, tomorrow or the next day;)