Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[volsung] 11/1/2019 10:48

You're very masterful RF

[craigy] 11/1/2019 10:42

A bit O/T
Save diesel? A few years ago diesel was good, now bad but if you use ad-blue in new diesel engines then not so bad. Confusing. With this run to EVs, what is the world going to do with the bi-products of cracking oil? Understand that plastics and fertilizers are derived from cracking oil and will be needed regardless, so does diesel and probably to a lesser extent petrol become waste products? Or will they just be used in power stations to generate electricity thus not really solving emissions just moving the issue (and maybe reducing emissions if bulk use is more efficient than car engines). Just musing

Craigy

[spike_1] 11/1/2019 10:39

Well said sandbag!

[club sandwich] 11/1/2019 10:39

"If it is rejected - This could lead to a disaster for many car manufacturers - from Nissan to JLR to banks"

that depends - if May's deal is rejected - what the final outcome is. If it results in a 2nd Ref and we end up staying in the EU, there will be a massive stock market rally (IMO, obviously).

[sandbag] 11/1/2019 10:37

pshevlin,

"even the cash I have in Funds has performed worse than VRS at the moment"

Last year shares in VRS rose from 61.96p to 13108p. That's more than double. I don't know what funds you have but I doubt any of them came anywhere near that.
As a matter of interest I've just read in Moneyweek the results of newspaper tipsters for last year. The best acheivement and the only one to show a profit was the Evening Standard with a meagre 0.87%. The worst with a loss of 27.7% was from the Guardian. So as far as I can see we're doing pretty well for a company at this stage. Sooner or later the price will increase substantially as the work by NR and all the superb team starts to show results. Meanwhile it's just a matter of sitting back and let the them get on with it.

[fuji99] 11/1/2019 10:22

Agree: Everything is linked to politics: Take Brexit vote next week for example: If it passes, consumer confidence will shoot up and all stock markets will rise. If it is rejected - This could lead to a disaster for many car manufacturers - from Nissan to JLR to banks that may take their factories and business elsewhere and consumer goods too as workers may lose more jobs thus stop spending. Uncertainty, which is the poison pill of the markets sets in - thus all caused by politics.

[mikebrenner] 11/1/2019 10:19

Will be interesting to see which ones of the below NR focuses on with gnanomat and who their consortia partners are ...could be 1,2 and 4!

Faraday Battery Challenge - Phase Two Outlines


Up to £12 million per annum for up to Four Awards is available from the Faraday Institution as part of the Industrial Strategy Challenge Fund - Faraday Battery Challenge. This call invites Outline proposals from researcher consortia (normally of up to five institutions) interested in research projects in four challenge areas, which have been identified through a set of five regional workshops attended by ~200 people from industry, policy and academia. The four research topics are:

1. Next generation Li-ion cathode materials;
2. Electrode manufacturing;
3. Next generation Na-ion batteries;
4. Alternative cell chemistry beyond lithium ion batteries.

The outline proposals must be from multi-disciplinary consortia directed to carrying out fundamental research at scale that will "move the dial" of knowledge and understanding in addressing the specific issues within the topics defined above. It is anticipated that experts from outside the battery field will be required as part of each consortium. Each consortium must be led by a Principal Investigator who is an internationally recognised leader in the field and supported by a Project Leader with experience of delivering research and who will have daily responsibility for driving the research forward. In addition, the project should include resources to provide planning and finance support required for a program of this scale.

Projects need to have a 48-month ambition. An amount of ~£12 Million per annum is available for the four Awards. Initial funding will be for the period to 31 March 2021, with further funding dependent on the outcome of the Comprehensive Spending Review.

[alchemy] 11/1/2019 10:17

This book "The Graphene Revolution" is a good 'Un.What Manchester thinks today etc.The vast acres planted are now yielding headphones and early days airplane parts. I especially look forward to the electric storage and power revolution. Vast fruitful areas from that.It's sad that JLR loses people but that's Schumpeter's destructive/constructive capitalism. You simply can't save the Diesel engine after its 130 or so years run.I note the Midlands may be number one on the EV push, post Tesla the pioneer anyway. Though I note Spain, Oxford and Gloucester have to be included in the definition of the Midlands.It was reading the book the Switch that alerted me to storage based on Vanadium. ( And my holding in RedT) I have this book on Graphene to complete , and then much more research to catch up here.Now another go at ordering those headphones. It's helpful my wife is a chemist when we get to orbit swaps etcetera. I started talking of sticky paper when I was told that helped develop Graphene. How long you known that? says I."At least ten years" was the reply.

[squire007] 11/1/2019 10:11

Plz, next news rns leaves 150 behind ;-)

[volsung] 11/1/2019 10:05

Bought a few more. Hopefully leave 130p behind for good soon

[pshevlin] 11/1/2019 10:00

Oi, lucky, you are being political ;-)

[luckyorange] 11/1/2019 09:56

Gets tedious after a few years eh superg?

The one thing with social media that really gets me is when did it become alright to call people morons and cretins and actually tweet the Prime Minister calling her a hag , however the last one may be an attempt to get on the MI5 watch list

"MI5 protects the uk against threats to national security The role of MI5, as defined in the Security Service Act 1989, is "the protection of national security and in particular its protection against threats such as terrorism, espionage and sabotage, the activities of agents of foreign powers, and from actions intended to overthrow or undermine parliamentary democracy by political, industrial or violent means".

I suspect they are busy :)

Be nice to each other!

[johnveals] 11/1/2019 09:55

I think we have to distinguish between what is possible with graphene at lab scale and what can realistically happen in the commercial world over a reasonable timescale. A whole new industry has to be built from the ground up and that is what Versarien is doing. The breadth of collaborations is staggering. The MoUs are amazing. And non of this would be happening if world class companies hadn't done their due diligence. We need to be patient and follow the Lovat Scout timetable. Rome wasn't built in a day and competition will only help.

[fuji99] 11/1/2019 09:55

Simple: As many (mainly short termers) trade VRS on a daily basis, the current rise has completely shafted their plans. A few look a bit nervous because the rise is taking longer and they probably have a short "T-something" time to clear their debt. They probably expected the share price to revisit £1 before they start new stories to take it up. Is club sandwich having his early morning sandwich by chance ?

[pshevlin] 11/1/2019 09:41

"Leave it out pshevlin, if you want to discuss/or he wants to discuss"...
Sorry who and what..not clear? Not looking for an argument by the way.

[pshevlin] 11/1/2019 09:38

At my time of life Myrl it can be that you have to go for broke to make a difference. I'm fairly comfortable with my investment at the moment and even the cash I have in Funds has performed worse than VRS at the moment so I don't intend to reduce "our" holdings at the moment. I might take some out at £3 but even then it won't be a lot.
I admit to a bit of impatience but with the sp, not the management.

[luckyorange] 11/1/2019 09:36

Leave it out pshevlin, if you want to discuss/or he wants to discuss do it via the message system, seems that you are always looking for an argument which is fine if that is what floats your boat.

[pshevlin] 11/1/2019 09:33

Unfortunately politics is in everything flatcoat and WILL affect the shareprice so it is occasionally important. Always makes me laugh out loud when people say they have nothing to do with politics.

[adejuk] 11/1/2019 09:32

can you feel it in the wind?

[mryl] 11/1/2019 09:32

I think pshevlin is alright, just a bit/very impatient maybe?
Ultimately (s)he seems to have the same problem as Festario and ClubSandwich, too high % of their capital invested in a single company, making them feel uncomfortable and jittery.
I too had 100% of my capital invested in VRS, heck almost 100% of my net worth, but I came to my senses and sold some to reach a holding that is both objectively more reasonable and personnally easier to cope with. Even though I see a very bright future for the company and I may miss out on £££; with the thousands of shares I have sold, I will still make a lot of money from what i hold, no need to be greedy if it means losing my mind! Risk management is important folks. #longandstrong #keepyoursanity

[pshevlin] 11/1/2019 09:30

Scrutable..."My impatience cost me £1,200,000."
Only if you did nothing else with the money you made from ASOS at 16p. You are not telling us that you just spent it are you?
In all those years between 16p and £75 there must have been good opportunities to get back in, make more money on other stock or lose the lot.
Which was it?

[flatcoat1] 11/1/2019 09:28

Agree Mike. One of the biggest reasons I started investing in vrs a year ago was the excellent stuff people like yourself, SuperG, ellis plus others posted. It's not rocket science to understand for share price to go up will require new investors. Therefore this board should be informative, and trueful and helpful as it was 6 MTHS back. Not politics or whining