Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[kemorkid] 20/11/2018 17:25

Thanks potsol,
I’m here for the long but it is very frustrating .
Need to visit the patience dept.

KK

[potsol] 20/11/2018 17:20

Kemorkid, all great news of late but no fundamentals in terms of £'s or T's.

[davemac3] 20/11/2018 17:16

Anley,

why is Derek Lowe behind the curve working in the drug world? His blog covers some more general subjects and several of the comments on his graphene blog are from guys working with graphene. I suspect there are more graphene experts there than here!




PS has anybody on here worked with graphene?

[ellissj] 20/11/2018 17:10

Fair enough anley. Indeed, uk standards in lieu of intl iso standards could help in this regard. Investor confidence is key to any industry, and especially in one that is developing and needs equity. It's not like the UK has a national graphene association and the graphene council like the US helping to set standards and drive their industry forward? Instead, we do have vertible institutions, such as NGI and GEIC who entrusted to deliver a 2D industry on behalf of the nation, which represents a considerable government investment. And the NPL tasked with implementing a characterisation service. I am cautiously optimisitic we may have an announcement to coincide with opening of geic next month regarding standards for the UK. It would make sense to do it then. Aimo. Best ellis

[kemorkid] 20/11/2018 17:07

What the hell does the share price need .
All the positive news of late and it ends up in red

Baffled 😕

[freddievas] 20/11/2018 16:53

My that's darned thoughtful of you bud. When it hits £5, will you apologise to anybody misguided enough to have listened to your self interested "advice"?

[anley] 20/11/2018 16:51

ELLISS......thank you for your posts. Interesting but the guy being a Yank and writing years ago is behind the curve working in the drug world and I don't mean to be putting him down.

I will bang on about the IOS certificate issue as this will sort everybody out and in my view stop the posters who think they know more than the experts.

[dolores123] 20/11/2018 16:50

Might be from yesterday

[melf] 20/11/2018 16:48

Can someone explain what the 50K delayed buy at 130p is all about? Is it a mistake or is someone taking the p*ss???? The price was nowhere near that at 2:48pm.

[dolores123] 20/11/2018 16:39

For goodness sake ignore him and the others. They are just shorters trying to move the share price down. It's either their job or their investment style.

[red7al] 20/11/2018 16:35

Would a face to face make more sense or concede to twitter discussion if you really want the conversation?

[occultusverum1] 20/11/2018 16:27

Take a look at markets worldwide. They are all getting hammered. It has absolutely nothing to do with a typo, or any of the dross that you dig up. For some reason you think you are an expert because you've read a spec sheet or two. You're questions constantly prove your naivety of the science and business processes.
As an investor I have to decide whether I trust a company who is open and honest with their communications, or some guy on a forum who appears to have an agenda and very little knowledge.

[nico115] 20/11/2018 16:25

Cos I'm a nice guy I genuinely think this will be 50p next year You may even thank me one day : )Take care buddy x

[club sandwich] 20/11/2018 16:21

"for any mention of graphene on what passes comically for Business News on the socialist BBC's Today programme"

that's interesting, because from my perspective Today is an ERG Brexit mouthpiece. If we both think it's biased maybe they're doing something right?

[fuji99] 20/11/2018 16:19

log - You need to "log your mind out" because you are sick and obsessed by this BB.
You must have an empty life, nothing to do at all- I am sure.

[shavian] 20/11/2018 16:18

We had our first mention in The Times this morning, as previously reported by our eagle-eyed crew. Hallelujah!

Every morning at 0620 prompt a copy of this august publication thuds onto our doormat just as I am listening, more in hope than expectation, for any mention of graphene on what passes comically for Business News on the socialist BBC's Today programme. Despairingly, I turn from the wireless apparatus to The Times in the forlorn hope of spying the magic name of Versarien, for all the world like those poor penguins huddled on the ice staring hopefully for the return of their mates after the long winter. Actually I have only persevered with The Times because Madame Shavian likes to peruse the arty-farty section which I use for lighting the fire.

Amazingly my patience was rewarded this morning with a fairly positive snippet tucked coyly away at the foot of p436. I note that she described the firm as
"Versarien, AN advanced materials engineering company...", which in Times-speak implies that none of the readers has ever heard of it (probably true).

When The Times describes the company as "Versarien, THE global graphene producer..." we will all know we have finally arrived.

[loglorry1] 20/11/2018 16:14

@occultusversum1 you are funny.

I write a careful answer to your question and you just ignore it completely and tell me what I really said instead because it suits your agenda and and then call me a chicken. You are in good company there as David Kerr does that too.

"Not only that, you're ego is so massive that you think that he should discuss with you on here, even though you're not even a shareholder."

Not at all. He'd be discussing it with everyone its an open forum (as long as you can pass @SuperG's censorship rules that is). I doubt @SuperG will censor NR though.

I'd also point out that it was NR that engaged with me first this morning not the other way around. He quite rightly picked me up on something that I was happy to correct and set the record straight on. I note out of all my posts here that he reads he rarely picks me up on things so make of that what you will.

I see the price getting hammered again. That is the problem when expectations are set so high. In the end people realise that a price of $45,000/kg is unrealistic.

[jointer13] 20/11/2018 16:14

well said occult.

[occultusverum1] 20/11/2018 16:06

So yes you are afraid to have the discussion on Twitter as you know it has far more reach and more people can see what a plonker you are.
Not only that, you're ego is so massive that you think that he should discuss with you on here, even though you're not even a shareholder.

[ellissj] 20/11/2018 15:56

This is a blog article from siemens rep linked to geic. He's keen on 2D materials re below. And also future cities. So much potential for 2D imo. And vrs is being rolled out with help of DIT 2 years after this blog ! Best ellis.

"The 4th Industrial Revolution – are we missing a trick?"

JULY 19, 2016 / LEAVE A COMMENT

I love that recent quote from Prince Phillip – “Everything not invented by God, was invented by an engineer.”

It fills me with excitement as we enter a period where we are certainly going to need our inventive skills! I’m referring to:

Taking the first steps into the fourth industrial revolution;Mapping out an industrial strategy for the UK;Looking to rebalance the economy; andManaging all the angles and permutations from the recent Brexit decision.

Particularly for the 4th Industrial Revolution, the U.K. stands at the forefront. There have been some inventive steps taken in closing the skills gap, inspiring the next generation through STEM subjects, developing the Internet of Things and unlocking the potential of Big Data, and whilst all of these have a crucial role to play in the next industrial revolution, I wonder if we’re missing a trick.

And that missing trick is materials.

Not only is the topic of materials one of our strongest areas of invention in the UK (just look at graphene and the development in 2D materials), but materials was the bedrock upon which the first industrial revolution (iron), the second industrial revolution (steel) and the third industrial revolutions (rare earth metals) were built.

We’re not missing the trick completely. The topic of materials is on the radar as evidenced in the Great 8 report  and the establishment of the National Graphene Institute, the Graphene Engineering & Innovation Centre and the recently announced Royce Institute, but as we enter the fourth industrial revolution, I’m worried that we in the UK are not taking full advantage of the inventive powers we have in materials.

The fourth industrial revolution is all about connectivity, flexibility and personalisation. It’s a batch size of 1 at mass production prices. It’s about smart devices, smart sensors, smart products and smart factories enabled by Big Data.

If we are going to take a leading role in this new era, we are going to need to use our internationally recognised power of materials research & development and apply this power to:

bring to market solutions for the exponential growth in data storage;use 2D materials in making devices, sensors and products smart; anduse 3D printing to unlock the dream of a batch size of 1 at mass production prices.

Where I feel we are missing the trick is that materials needs to move more to the centre of our radar, rather than, as I feel, a poor relation to the more exciting topics of skills gap, Big Data & Digitalisation.

The inventive steps we are taking in material research and development deserve to be taken advantage of – to create a vibrant and buoyant manufacturing sector providing solutions for data storage, manufacturing smart devices, sensors and products and running smart factories built on 3D printing for flexibility, customisation and personalisation.

Currently I feel the challenge we face is ensuring that we exploit this advantage and avoid the train passing us by.

So back to Prince Phillip’s quote. I think if we’re going to show that everything not invented by God, was invented by an engineer, then my hope is that the engineers in question are fully aware of and encouraged by both government and industry to use the incredible materials inventive powers we have in the UK. If this is achieved I feel excited we will continue to lead from the forefront and will enter the next stage of the 4th industrial revolution confidently."


Steven Foxley

Heres his biog;

"Managing Director, Building Technologies Division, Siemens plc"

"Previously Steven was the Director of Industry Services for Siemens UK and Ireland, a leading supplier of services for automation and drive technologies to industrial customers across the UK and Ireland. 

Prior to taking up this role in 2014, Steven held a number of senior roles within Siemens in the UK, Austria and China, including Projects Director for the UK Airport and Postal business, and Director for the global Aluminium business segment.

He is passionate about materials and supports a number of UK wide initiatives in support of materials for Manufacturing including being a member of the Advisory Panel for the Graphene Engineering and Innovation Centre in Manchester. 

Steven joined Siemens in 1999 after obtaining a MEng in mechanical engineering from Bristol University and attained his MBA from Cranfield University in 2006.

Steven is married with two sons and lives in Cheshire."

[loglorry1] 20/11/2018 15:55

@occultusverum1 I've asked repeatedly for Neill to come over to advfn where these things can be discussed properly but he's refused. Twitter is a poor platform to discuss these things especially Neill who almost always reverts to type and just tweets some glib putdown comment. His acolytes love this but I expect serious VRS investors (if they exist) would prefer proper reasoned debate.

If Neill wants to come over and have a proper discussion on a range of topics for example why Nanene commands a premium pricing to the tune of 500-1000 times the price of competitor pricing (if that is the case) that would be most welcome.

As for his latest tweet was "@timkempster what exactly did I say about the typo?" I don't really know what he means but I'd have thought he is best to judge about what he says or tweets if that is his meaning. Twitter has a search facility if he needs it.

[cheek212] 20/11/2018 15:54

118.5p really?????

[ellissj] 20/11/2018 15:47

Cheers roger. Have a good trip. Best ellis

[occultusverum1] 20/11/2018 15:44

Come on Tim, I'm waiting for you to respond to Neill on twitter. What are you afraid of?

[rogerbridge] 20/11/2018 15:35

Good post Elliss. It's all happening out there and we will be there to take advantage.