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[club sandwich] 05/11/2018 16:13

Fest - couple of hours in bed? It's 4pm!

Heavy darts match last night? ;-)

[club sandwich] 05/11/2018 16:12

"these introductions will be the precursor to deals."

why? none of the introductions to date have led to deals? it will just be yet more distractions for an already-overstretched mgmt team.

that's a bit flip: of course collabs and introductions come first, then the deals. but I'll ask again - where are the deals for the collabs and introductions that have *already happened*?

[festario] 05/11/2018 16:09

Although I'm surprised that after a couple of hours in bed, I awake to find the share price down!

[superg1] 05/11/2018 16:04

Busy day on here I see with the usual criminals spouting their lies wherever they can.

Keep going boys😎

#completelychilled

[spike_1] 05/11/2018 16:04

jkok1: re your:

I have been looking at the posts with more attention than usual as I have a particular interest in China. To whoever asked about graphene companies in the Far East here is one. I have joined the band who want things to happen quickly as we may be missing some golden opportunities. Still happy overall though.

We will probably always miss opportunities to supply low grade graphene (graphite).
Why because - my guess - as there are other companies out there doing it, it will not be particularly profitable.

However, high quality graphene is needed for significantly increasing strength such as in composites i.e. for use in vehicles, trains, aircraft, buildings etc.

And it is absolutely clear China don't have that ability, hence their interest in VRS.

Best wishes - Spike

[ellissj] 05/11/2018 16:00

Mj10. I believe the june date was floated by jinjan right at the beginning, when it was just them. Clearly the game changed after the PM's china trade trip when interest mushroomed. And it's changed again today. Dyor. Best ellis

[adejuk] 05/11/2018 15:59

Club Sandwich5 Nov '18 - 15:33 - 45740 of 45748 (Filtered)
because you have nothing to add except your depressive anxiety/fear of loss
get some pills. they'll help.

[ellissj] 05/11/2018 15:56

Point 2 for me shavers, highlighted the importance of that very point earlier today. Aimo. Best ellis

[mj10] 05/11/2018 15:56

I agree it will take time dealing with china I expected it so why were you guys trying to convince me it had to be completed by last june when the factory was ready?
blatant ramping then,and its still going on now

[ellissj] 05/11/2018 15:53

"Neill Ricketts

@neillricketts

Graphene is a material that has always been there, what we have done is invent a process for making it cost effectively, high quality and in quantity. I think at best your comments are inaccurate , have you been drinking again?

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Tim Kempster

@timkempster

Replying to @EasyBrent, and @neillricketts

All true but #VRS didn't invent/discover Graphene. They bought some patents for £600k for a method of producing. Neill's art of deal making is clearly much more Trump than Musk [sounds smelly]

8:36 pm · 13 Jul 2018 from Solihull, England · Twitter for Android"

[tini5] 05/11/2018 15:52

I'll vote for #2 Shavian!

[ellissj] 05/11/2018 15:48

"Neill Ricketts

@neillricketts
Replying to
@timkempster

Oh btw this is the Chinese certificate for the Chinese patent of our process to produce #nanene"

[shavian] 05/11/2018 15:47

Two conspiracy theories about why NR felt the necessity to put out a Non-Regulatory RNS (there's tautology for you) this morning?

1. He felt so pressured by Kempster and Co that he had to say something about China to stop us all from selling up.

2. He's off to the USA next week and it would be nice to have Quingdao down on paper to wave at the Congressional bods he's alleged to be briefing on graphene.

Which one do you prefer? Or do you have any others?

Am I bovvered? Not with a motto like Festina Lente...

(remember the old adage about the old bull and the young bull)

[ellissj] 05/11/2018 15:41

Think i'd rather trust our high flying dit secondee here. Job title : Head of International Strategy & Government Relations @versarien. He knows his onions. Aimo. Best ellis

"Nigel Hassard
@HassardNigel
17h

Hope you had a good weekend Matt, must be exciting being at the forefront of the new industrial revolution :) I’m feeling engergised for the week ahead and feeling as confident as ever you guys will deliver for GB"

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Matt Walker
@MattWal79512221

Replying to

@HassardNigel

"All good thanks Nigel and hope you had a good weekend too? I’m struggling to hide the excitement myself too so let’s crack on and see what we deliver"

10:44 PM · Nov 4, 2018 · Twitter for iPhone

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[rafboy] 05/11/2018 15:35

CS, these introductions will be the precursor to deals. I would imagine that such deals will conclude quicker by having the province on board to help iron out any perceived difficulties.

[rafboy] 05/11/2018 15:33

Pshevlin, to a degree you are correct. However, in this instance we are obliged to take things on trust. That is I believe that NR is completely up front and would never mislead investors. If you have doubts about that then you should move on.

[ellissj] 05/11/2018 15:32

"Neill Ricketts

@neillricketts

Lol How do I break #groundhogday? This patent was after our patent with University of Ulster that underpins the Nanene process. It was a slight variation that we pursued but WE chose not to pursue.The original patent protects against this. We were protecting shareholder value.

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Tim Kempster

@timkempster

I wonder if #VRS has overcome the problem below described in their patent application "Methods for the production of 2D materials" [WO 2016/0630"

[club sandwich] 05/11/2018 15:31

pshevlin - I will continue to have doubts until the first large, significant, valuable order(s) arrive(s). only then will I relax.

anyone who doesn't is a fool, you ask me.

[club sandwich] 05/11/2018 15:30

rafboy - "The province will facilitate introductions" VRS doesn't need any more introductions, they have prospective customers coming out of their ears. what they *need* is to convert existing contacts into orders.

[pshevlin] 05/11/2018 15:29

rafboy. You can trust in something and still have doubts. If you don't you really do have a problem.

[club sandwich] 05/11/2018 15:28

realcool - so the obvious question is, why XG's graphene and not VRS's? It clearly says 'graphene' and not graphene oxide or anything else.

so a direct competitor to VRS, both selling graphene, has a deal with a massive automative company. VRS doesn't. And people criticise my impatience?

VRS needs to pull its finger out. Now.

[pshevlin] 05/11/2018 15:26

It is possible that these companies are happier using lower grade graphene than VRS are supplying but that begs the question as to whether we should be muscling in on that as well (perhaps we are). If our Graphene is very expensive it would have to make a huge difference to some products to warrant its use.

[rafboy] 05/11/2018 15:25

I think some of you need to listen to the latest podcast again. NR makes very clear that these things take time to get right. He also expands on the 2nd part of the RNS this morning. The province will facilitate introductions, will help with red tape and will open the right doors to potential customers. Remember that is just one province and we are talking with over 30 China entities.

Also China is only one country, yes a large one I agree. However, we are talking with India, the US and Indonesia amongst others. It all takes time but we are government backed and the deals will happen. Bleating about the time it takes won’t make them happen any quicker.

Sorry but it needs to be said, you either trust in VRS and NR or you don’t. If you don’t then best sell up and move on. Me, I am staying, as are the rest of my immediate family. We can wait.