Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[superg1] 11/8/2018 07:05

Run

SP rise helped by big funds finished selling.

The share price started it's rise in the last week of May and from that time until the end of June the funds sold about 3.5 mill shares as I recall.

A supply obviously continued through July too.

I expect a kick up again once the supply runs dry. If Miton kept going at the rate they sold in June they will be done within weeks imo. Assuming they plan to go to zero.

IF combined shorts run to levels over 500k then it all helps re pending guaranteed near term buyers.

[1teepee] 11/8/2018 06:45

I think they might be iso readyhttps://www.graphenea.com/collections/graphene-products/products/easy-transfer-monolayer-graphene-on-polymer-film-1-cm-x-1-cm

[ellissj] 11/8/2018 06:08

Exactly lucky. It seems most of the worlds'graphene'industry are using graphene oxide or non iso gnp's. VRS announced they can meet the iso standards; as far as we know, no other firm has done likewise. And in the absence of the iso standards, the graphene councils 'graphene verified producer' scheme is the next best thing. In effect, it becomes the worlds first assay office in the 'graphene gold rush!' VRS is first in the queue for testing, and the graphene council have been over here. No wonder the shorting fraternity have been on here this week, peddling fools gold to save their skins. Surely, if all correct, acreditation for VRS will likely be a game changer, leaving the firm sitting pretty amongst it's peers worldwide. And more attractive than ever. Patient and confident holder here. Enjoy your weekends. Aimo. Best ellis

[luckyorange] 11/8/2018 01:12

What is holding up the ISO? Well there is this

"Q: We discussed ad hoc industry standards for graphene last time we spoke. Have those become more formalized? And what is the state of graphene standardization across producers?

A: A lot of work is taking place on standardization of graphene materials, however the early standards are more focused on graphene as opposed to graphene oxide. While standards are now being written and the first standards are now published, there is still a need to get the wider market on board as terminology is not always being fully understood and adopted by those in the graphene community."

LONG-ESTABLISHED CHEMICAL COMPANY CONTINUES TO SEE GRAPHENE DEMAND INCREASE
Posted By Dexter Johnson, IEEE Spectrum, Wednesday, July 11, 2018



I suspect that companies/people want the ISO written so that their 'brand' of graphene is acceptable.

Which is why VRS were extremely happy to be selected by the US for the 'Verification' programme and being the launch client is invaluable.

When it is verified, the rest can pee about and hold up the ISO for as long as they wish, that will be in VRS's favour.

[luckyorange] 11/8/2018 00:43

It's a big advisory board, some have paid some haven't?



Not particularly impressed with some of them on there considering their 'graphene' claims

But.... they will all be fully aware of this,

" the selection of the Company to be the launch client of The Graphene Council's 'Verified Graphene Producer' programme in the USA."

[haz101] 10/8/2018 23:50

Looking forward to Monday already..

[bootie64] 10/8/2018 22:59

Just to add as a reminder from the National Graphene Association (NGA) executive directors blog in February




NGA WELCOMES NEW ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS
February 10, 2018
I would like to personally welcome the new additions to the NGA advisory board:

Neill Ricketts– Vesarien

Paul Harris – MCR

Marcus Liemen– Accurion

Paul Ferguson -Great Lakes Graphite

Zisong Nie-Tetrels Technology Corp.



Source:

[psxtalks2u] 10/8/2018 21:36

Just noticed this posted on Versariens twitter account re: Billion pound backing for British innovation!

[luckyorange] 10/8/2018 21:19

Late reported, if it is a buy where did they get them from?

10-Aug-18 16:29:36 119.8114 47,199Buy* 118.00 121.00 56.55k

And what is the price about there, why not call it 1.20?

[runthejoules] 10/8/2018 21:06

Yes Metis but also lifted by big funds having finished selling / dropped back by big funds selling again. But the beta has lowered. And when the big sellers are out, Festario will start buying again, despite his Grinch phases.

[metis20] 10/8/2018 20:20

Interesting to see the four main catalysts for share price upward movement since the shorting at around 60p.

Lifted out of the 60s by “Appointment of senior DIT secondee”


lifted out of the 90s by “Versarien appointed to NGA Industry Council”


together with “Graphinks products launch”


And up towards 140p by “Battery Technology Update”

[woodpeckers] 10/8/2018 20:09

Thanks Hoverflyman, touched!

[woodpeckers] 10/8/2018 20:09

Agreed, super. Yes, there will be other companies chasing VRS' coattails but we really do have a good head start. However, there is no way VRS is going to be able to fill all the orders when the ball really gets rolling. It is inevitable and desirable even that other companies will follow in our footsteps.

[superg1] 10/8/2018 19:18

Campbed

Do you have a good understanding of the production processes and what needs to be done to get to the right type of platelets.

It's a very difficult skill to get right and includes a number of processes including production, separation and drying.

Some proceeses even the VRS one started many years ago and it took a long time to get it right. What VRS took on by acquisition has changed too.

[superg1] 10/8/2018 19:09

The facts are TW and co went on a short campaign at 60-70p. I sent the Cordis document warning against it which showed funding and progress on batteries which had not been announced but has been recently and caused an share price hike.

One guy (may still be short) was up near £1,500 PP short back then and in deep manure.

I take it a few TWs mates are unhappy at the position which has been 100% up on the share price from that point recently.

Jak has now appeared perhaps forced by that lot, remember he is not allowed to post negatively on OBT.

Time to move on. You all know the motives by now by that lot, they are not genuine or sincere. It's all about gain by fraud.

[woodpeckers] 10/8/2018 18:38

campbed, if you're still around, I'd be keen to hear your response to my question earlier...I appreciate it's easy to miss Qs on busy boards...

"campbed, could I ask why you think we are likely to be overtaken? Am I right in thinking that you mean another company will do it bigger/better rather than that there will be a takeover of the company?

From your post -"The process is still being developed but I’m confident that the process VRS has ownership of is the current state of the art. But it is likely to be overtaken."

Also, if you don't mind, what is the relevance of VRS being based outside London? From your post - "I’m attracted to that difference, as I am to VRS being based outside London and the UK government’s (via VRS) efforts to make a commercial success of 2D materials given the fairly dismal historical record of commercialising UK scientific discoveries since the 1950s."

You say "A VRS holding is not right for everyone." Could you clarify what you mean?

You mention "it is cash loss making and has only some £2m cash (and hence may need further funding)." - Just in case you aren't on twitter, Neill repeatedly assures us (as recent as tonight - "we have enough cash for current plans including scale up equipment recently purchased")that we have no need to go back to the market to raise funds as things stand.

[jkok1] 10/8/2018 18:21

JakNife and Sonsonnyjim. ISO standards. UK is a contributor to the ISO Standard but the lead countries are Korea and the USA and they will look after their own. I think that this is the reason that there is a delay. You can track progress on the link below:

[anotherdrink] 10/8/2018 18:16

NR on Twitter: 33m33 minutes ago ' ...... Early days for us with revenues but hope you're buckled in for the ride.' - says it all iro of graphene revenue.

[sonsonnyjim] 10/8/2018 18:06

I think you have it backwards. They worked on the standards then joined a company they knew would pass them. However if we go for your theory, that would mean VRS have more possibilities to influence the market, as everyone else would try and hire them for that reason....heads shorters lose, tails VRS wins...