Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Torotrak LSE:TRK London Ordinary Share GB0002922382 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 0.0705p 0.051p 0.09p - - - 0 05:30:32
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Automobiles & Parts 1.5 -21.7 -3.6 - 0.38

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22/6/2018
14:13
Erogenous, Good to hear from you too. Is investing in a forest to salve your conscience for having invested in "unethical" shares? Yes, I lost a bundle on blue sky shares as well: TRK, NTX and PRM were the worst. The only one that is now in profit is OXB after waiting patiently for 15 years! I didn't do too badly on PDX which was one I traded rather than sit tight waiting for the promises to come good. Plenty of lessons there. I did change course in 2016 because of the EU referendum and put money into shares that earned in dollars - some overlap with your "unethical shares". Perhaps my equivalent to your forest is our garden which I have let run wild for the last three years. However, it was not a matter of conscience but lack of time - our children suddenly started reproducing and the fifth grandchild has just turned up. Having been a local councillor since 2007, I became Vice Chairman in 2015 and Chairman in 2016 and then lost my seat by 8 votes this year! I am now free to do other things like looking after grandchildren and gardening. John
john of groats
16/6/2018
18:19
J of G, I have had that same thing happen but on different websites about 4 or 5 times now, I'm not sure what it is but I was careful not to click on any part of it. As yourself did, I switched off the router and crashed the computer each time it has happened. I haven't found any viruses, but I'm not too computer savvy. I don't think this thing is TRK specific, as I have had it happen here on advfn too, but thank you for the warning.
lefrene
16/6/2018
12:51
Warning! Out of idle curiosity, I did a search to see if there was any news about Torotrak and found that www.torotrak.com is still there so I clicked on it and got a blue page warning me my PC was infected with a virus that was downloading my financial data including credit card details and suggesting I ring a US telephone number for help. I tried shutting the page - no luck but got an audible message about a porn site! I couldn't shut the browser and my PC was frozen. I looked at my router and there was no Internet traffic but I switched it off to be sure. I then forced off my PC and turned it on again. Everything seemed OK but I did a full scan to check there was no virus. It took ages to scan over 700k files and it found nothing. I then turned on the router again and everything worked. I assume the administrator has sold that URL to some scam. John
john of groats
16/6/2018
12:48
Warning! Out of idle curiosity, I did a search to see if there was any news about Torotrak and found that www.torotrak.com is still there so I clicked on it and got a blue page warning me my PC was infected with a virus that was downloading my financial data including credit card details and suggesting I ring a US telephone number for help. I tried shutting the page - no luck but got an audible message about a porn site! I couldn't shut the browser and my PC was frozen. I looked at my router and there was no Internet traffic but I switched it off to be sure. I then forced off my PC and turned it on again. Everything seemed OK but I did a full scan to check there was no virus. It took ages to scan over 700k files and it found nothing. I then turned on the router again and everything worked. I assume the administrator has sold that URL to some scam. John
john of groats
24/5/2018
17:19
Hi Guys, Just thought I,d clock in for nostalgic reasons. Sorry to see TRK down the tubes. All that coal now gone ! Such is life. Sad. Seems we were mislead all those years ago and allowed our optimistic greed to pull us in and make us reluctant to get out. Thnak G I managed to get out in time a couple of years ago now - what the H happens to time !! - yuk. Sorry for those among you who didn't manage to do so. But best wishes for the future...I have come to realise of course, that health is a much greater concern than investment ( or speculation ! ) God bless you all and thanks for sharing the misery over many years. Galleon.
galleon
09/1/2018
01:22
RIP 15 years
bearable
22/12/2017
19:18
If industry is to meet challenging CO2 targets getting more of the latest low emission diesels onto our roads is crucial, as they can emit 20% less CO2 than the equivalent petrol models,” says Tamzen Isacsson, director of the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders, the industry body. Isacsson blamed “confusion around government air quality plans and taxation” for the drop in diesel sales, and warned: ”If new diesel car registrations continue on this negative trend, UK average new car CO2 levels could indeed rise this year”. A Department for Transport spokesman said: “We will seek to maintain ambitious targets and our leadership position, and intervening firmly if not enough progress is being made. Could jump back immediately back at 5p and upwards!
oliversanvil
10/12/2017
05:50
The Single Roller Full Toroidal Variator was simply too big, too expensive, and too inefficient to find a place in mainstream automotive transmissions. The technology on which the business was based was never going to work from the beginning. Failure to recognize this was fueled by a form of technical arrogance verging on negligence and a management policy verging on dishonesty. Management tried to solve this weakness by looking for other applications, buying time to hide the truth and raise more capital. They may have succeeded but for the rapid rise of vehicle electrification. VCharge and MKERS failed because improvements in ICE power trains will never match what Hybridization/electrification can do with recovered energy and electric supercharging simply does a better job, cheaper. We have a CVT that is a third the size of the Torotrak variator. It has double the ratio spread, is much more efficient and much cheaper to produce. We offered this to Torotrak management in 2012. They agreed that we were right but could not admit this to the market as it would highlight the inaccuracies of the story told at the beginning and so would not do a deal. Instead they attempted a very poor copy of its control system now incorporated in their VCharge. If Torotrak management had been honest enough, brave enough, or humble enough to deal with us, the outcome for the shareholders of Torotrak would have been completely different. In my opinion Torotrak's management and engineering arrogance is to blame for this failure. Our CVT is now being incorporated in electric drives because of its high efficiency and wide ratio spread, something that the single roller simply cannot do. Torotrak's failure will not help our commercial progress, as it appears on the surface to be a failure of traction drive CVT's. For this reason we are also extremely unhappy with the decisions that have been made by Torotrak management and would be happy to assist if any form of formal or informal investigation is undertaken into this collapse. It is very important to us to explain to the automotive industry that traction drives work, but only when designed and managed properly and honestly.
mjdurack
06/12/2017
19:11
Hello EJ and hope this finds you and yours all well? I have lost quite a lot hanging on to Torotrak and the learning certainly was not worth the amount involved. Hey ho. I am still working through why I hung on for so long when it has been quite clear for some time that the potential market(s) for TRK technology were as good as running away. I hung onto hope despite being well aware of loss aversion and conformation bias as two powerful cognitive biases which, in this case, heavily influenced any rational thinking on my part. Does such a significant loss affect my lifestyle? Thankfully not as I can and frequently do get out on my bike as well as walk in the lake district and elsewhere with my partner and much enjoy the voluntary work I do supporting people with mental health concerns now that I am retired. My very best wishes to you and thanks for always being courteous and, may I say, pretty well spot on with your various assessments of Torotrak's future. Cheers, Bodgit
bodgit
06/12/2017
18:50
Bodgit, TRK was an expensive learning curve for me......, well into 5 figures, but I bailed a few years ago...... despite having a keen interest in new technology, I have discovered that investing at an early phase is a poor decision. I repeated the mistake with GRPH. However, never again. It starts with the promise to never average down UNLESS the equity pays a dividend. Traditional is good. If the managers have not got any skin in the game, avoid. If their holding is a benefit in kind rather than bought with proper money, then consider that they are incredible.... and by that I mean not credible. There has to be defined sales revenues. Anyway, FWIW, the bulk of my investments are now managed professionally - it costs a stonking amount each year, but my portfolio is far more diverse having eliminated much of the volatility. Anyway, it seems a good point to draw a line under a very unsatisfactory company that could have been so different had they taken my advice to buy Manganeze Bronze (makers of London Cabs) when that company went bust. Cabbies are gossips !
erogenous jones
06/12/2017
17:58
Well the RNS this evening just about confirms this now is a dead duck. Nil return for shareholders I guess. Hmmmm, no one has yet accepted responsibility for the failure and IMHO it seems unlikely anyone will - what a surprise.
bodgit
01/12/2017
16:43
Can't believe people are buying here, up 10% lol
the bull
01/12/2017
12:19
£2m cash ~= 0.33p once notes settled...
rumobejo
01/12/2017
12:00
Alchemy true but the point stays the same with small mkt cap companies . Company ran into the ground by inept management . The tech worked but management had no idea how to market it and sell it . In the meantime milking big salaries for complete failure at shareholders expense . The way of the world ,reward the inept and punish the hard working
bones698
01/12/2017
10:45
Good post Olivers.
apfindley
01/12/2017
09:48
Many shells have also been formed out of trading companies that have sold their main assets and are left with nothing but cash. But cash shells have faced mounting criticism that they are too speculative, encouraging investors to back ventures blindly with little knowledge of managers’ plans or when they can expect a return. The London Stock Exchange is clamping down on “cash shells” — companies listing on London’s Alternative Investment Market with no assets except cash — in a move to shore up the junior market’s reputation. The LSE, which regulates Aim, is proposing to double the level of cash that a company must raise when joining the market from £3m to £6m in hopes that it will prompt tighter scrutiny of strategy and governance by a broader range of market professionals and investors They do not have £6million!
oliversanvil
01/12/2017
09:28
Deal done = Win Win
rumobejo
01/12/2017
08:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p63b_PFt7BI
oliversanvil
01/12/2017
07:59
Well it looks like Hilton and Cross can (will?) buy back Flybrid for a song. Hey ho.
bodgit
30/11/2017
19:08
As it happens this is not an AIM stock, it's a full market stock.This is risk in action I never thought the electric era would steal this from us.
alchemy
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