Torotrak Share Discussion Threads

[alchemy] 31/7/2017 09:09

We stopped using coal with 2000 years worth in the uk underground.Forget Peak Oil same sort of thing.

[alchemy] 31/7/2017 09:05

Yes that was true in the nineties. The chemistry of CO2 production and greenhouse gases seduced them into diesel worshippers. The Audis Mercs etc would not have minded.Diesels burn at high temperatures making the usually inert nitrogen form NOx combinations . Many times worse than CO2 in the short term in urban areas.The Green house effect is necessary for life , NOx kills it .Nevertheless the cities now know about NOx too, so the I C ,over time , goes.Notwithstanding 48 volt warming from cold and adblue.But this is all orthogonal to TRK.

[oliversanvil] 29/7/2017 20:33

Note that US standards are strict on Nitrogen Oxides (NOx) and Particulate Matter (PM), while the EU is strict on Carbon Dioxide (CO2) and Carbon Monoxide (CO). In other words, European regulators are focused on fuel efficiency to limit the dependency on crude oil from Russia and the Middle East, and on greenhouse gas emissions

[oliversanvil] 29/7/2017 09:06

Rise from the ashes. Emerge as new from something that has been destroyed.

www.apcuk.co.uk/projects/completed/ PRESS COMPLETED. As recommended HOLD-- BUT! at this price a screaming BUY.

[nod] 29/7/2017 01:06

Sad ending for another British engineering company.

[supernumerary] 27/7/2017 21:30

At least they never got to cash in all those cheap options ;¬))

[bodgit] 27/7/2017 20:10

Nineteen years and many tens of millions and what are we left with? A destruction of shareholder value from £3 per share on issue to c. 0.3 pence per share now. No one at top level has ever said a genuine "sorry" or it seems paid the price for failure. Asymmetric risk rules ok. Bye bye all - and will the last person out turn off the lights please......

[paul the octopus] 27/7/2017 16:34

going TRT way...

[lefrene] 27/7/2017 14:56

They were always going cap in hand to the OEM's instead of taking a delivery van or taxi and putting one of their transmissions in it to show what it could do. It was business by civil service mentality, with bonuses for failure. Even now they could put a transmission in an electric vehicle to demonstrate the savings by using smaller electric motors and probably less battery capacity, but they won't, someone will come along, get the IP for pennies and then exploit it. Money transferred from shareholders into fat salaries, pensions, and mansions for incompetent managers.

[onedayrodders] 27/7/2017 14:50

Crikey ..hindsight is a wonderful thing and I held this many many years ago.
I still remember the day when Toyota announced from nowhere they were pulling the plug.

That looks like the day it was over and not now

[apfindley] 27/7/2017 14:44

It's game over. They finally admit, ALL deals or trials, EVER, have fallen through in the past nearly, 20 years, and now with lithium and electric vehicles, there is no appetite, or even a market for ANY of torotraks offerings. This is dire. One thing however is clear, lithium and electric vehicles are what's going to happen. So the best place for investment is into that area. Most lithium explorers are tenbagging on discoveries, so that's a good place to start. I've invested latest in both AGQ and BNR, as they've still got to move in the same way that kod, prem, and others have done. Hope everyone exits with something at least.

[highasakite] 27/7/2017 14:38

BUST and DELIST soon.

[jpjp100] 27/7/2017 14:04

all but dead

with very near zero chance of recovery of any money at all for shareholders

[willoicc] 27/7/2017 08:51

There are still lots of buses spewing out pollution but they have given up on buses??!!!

Surely all those buses still have years of life in them?

[alchemy] 27/7/2017 08:08

The development of electric vehicles continues and by 2021 or so costs Wil be equal the move to EVs favour. So yes people will buy I/c s but in less quantity.

[bodgit] 27/7/2017 07:18

Results - nothing to get my hopes up there. All those bonuses paid, and for what? Barter should go. Have written these off now. Good luck all.

[oliversanvil] 16/7/2017 08:55

hxxp://www.drivespark.com/four-wheelers/2017/new-diesel-cars-better-for-environment-study-023044.html?utm_source=spikeD&utm_medium=LT&utm_campaign=adgebra

[barnes4] 14/7/2017 23:29

Is this going bust soon or is there a final spike coming?

The share price performance is absolutely dreadful I

[oliversanvil] 14/7/2017 22:35

Absolutely no loose tooth here!

[distill] 14/7/2017 09:13

did i miss something? has TRK researching this?

[oliversanvil] 07/7/2017 10:05

/www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC0pHkstuF8

[oliversanvil] 28/6/2017 12:53

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TRUCK & OFF-HIGHWAY
ENGINEERING
4
June 2017
POWERTRAIN
Using power dense flywheel hybrid technology
to cut fuel consumption of OH equipment
Flywheel hybrid system developer
Flybrid
is
creating a family of flywheel modules designed
to enhance productivity and cut operating
costs of off-highway vehicles and construction
equipment. Designed to supplement the main
powertrain, the modules can be connected hy
-
draulically, mechanically or electrically.
Flybrid, part of the
Torotrak Group
, has de-
veloped its KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery
System) for applications ranging from F1 race
cars to buses. But now it is widening its tech-
nology spectrum.
Richard Dunne, Flybrid’s Business
Development Manager, said: “Flywheels are an
incredibly power-dense method of storing
and releasing energy and a flywheel hybrid is
a compact and cost-effective way to hybridize
a machine.”
The initial new family of flywheel modules is
designated 600 Series and spans an energy stor
-
age range from 150kJ to 600kJ, with the first pro-
duction example, the H-380, able to store up to
380kJ and integrate with a machine’s hydraulic
system. It would be suitable for excavators weigh-
ing 20 to 45 tonnes, for example, or wheeled
loads in the 75 kW to 225 kW power range.
Dunne explained that the H-380 system
harvests both kinetic and potential energy that
would otherwise be wasted during the ma-
chine’s operating cycle and releases it at the
required power during the next cycle:
“Examples include raising and lowering the
boom of an excavator or the mast on a reach
stacker; slewing on an excavator or shuttling
between forward and reverse with a loader. It
delivers up to 210 kW of additional power to the
machine to significantly improve productivity.”
He said that Flybrid demonstrated the sys-
tem in a vehicle program using its 210-kW fly
-
wheel hybrid in a typical sub-130 kW (engine
power), 22 tonne excavator.
Meaningful consumption reductions,
rigorous validation
Previous Flybrid customer applications have dem-
onstrated a fuel-consumption reduction of 15%
when used to recover energy in a mobile ma-
chine—and typical fuel-consumption reduction in
load-leveling applications is 30%, added Dunne.
In the example of an excavator, boom lower
-
ing is typically controlled by throttling the re-
turn of flow from the boom cylinder, wasting
the available energy by turning it to heat.
When a hydraulically-connected Flybrid sys-
tem is added to the excavator, this flow is di-
verted to a variable-displacement pump, which
in turn charges the flywheel. Due to the vari-
able control of the pump, the flywheel can be
charged regardless of the available pressure
level or the state-of-charge of the flywheel
(unlike an accumulator), explained Dunne: “To
release the energy when raising the boom, flu-
id is returned from the flywheel-driven pump
by controlling the pump swash exactly at the
pressure demanded. Again, the pressure that
can be supplied is independent of the energy
remaining in the flywheel.”
He says he fully understands that plant op-
erators may be cautious—even skeptical—when
presented with an all-new technology in a busi-
ness world where reliability, robustness and
quality are absolute “musts” to avoid delays
caused by malfunctioning equipment.
So over the last 18 months, Flybrid has focused
its resources on productionizing the H-380 sys-
tem, working with its off-highway partners to
complete an extensive validation program.
Dunne detailed part of the process: “Flybrid
Flybrid’s latest 600-series flywheel energy recovery
family of modules is described as “compact and cost-
effective” (image: Flybrid).
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June 2017
has the capability to run full flywheel hy
-
brid systems and critical sub-systems on
test rigs at real-world operating tempera-
tures. As part of the rig-based validation
testing, full-life durability testing has been
completed. Furthermore, this validation
program included operating the H-380
system in a customer’s machine in a quar
-
ry. With this in-machine testing, Flybrid
was able to show that its rig-based full-
and sub-system validation was an accu-
rate representation of real-world condi-
tions. As part of this validation program,
we also completed extreme inclination
testing at operating angles beyond the
capabilities of a quarry machine.”
Previously, Flybrid developed hybrid
systems capable of reliably delivering
more than 1000 kW of additional power
in extreme environments both on- and
off-road, stated Dunne: “So we know
our H-380 product, that delivers 210
kW of additional power, sits well within
our comfortable operating range. The
proven reliability, coupled with the high
power density of the system, makes it
an attractive option for operators.”
He explained that in addition to recov
-
ering waste energy, the flywheel hybrid
system can be used to load-level the
engine. By “pre-charging” the flywheel,
the energy can be used to smooth the
peak loading on the engine, which in
turn enables engine downsizing or
downspeeding to reduce fuel consump-
tion without impairing functionality.
The Flybrid system is integrated with
the main machine control system, de-
signed to provide the same smooth and
predictable operability as on the origi-
nal machine. The control system of the
flywheel hybrid can be configured to
select the optimum source of energy
from multiple sources within the ma-
chine’s hydraulic control system and so
will harvest the maximum amount of
energy during an operation cycle.
Flybrid is working with leading off-
highway equipment manufacturers to
implement flywheel hybrid systems in a
variety of machines and applications.
Apart from the production-ready H-380
Flybrid, the
UK Advanced Propulsion
Centre
(APC) recently announced a proj-
ect involving
Turner Powertrain Systems
Ltd. (a wholly-owned subsidiary of
Caterpillar
Inc.) and Flybrid. During the
project an additional Flybrid product will
be developed to a production-ready sta-
tus for installation in a range of
Caterpillar’s off-highway machines.
“The power dense Flybrid Flywheel
Hybrid System is well-matched to the
requirements of heavy-duty applica-
tions,” added Dunne. “It is designed for
over 20,000 hours’ life in extreme oper
-
ating conditions.”
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IoT connections
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Commercial vehicles are at the forefront
of the Internet of Things (IoT) move-
ment, leveraging the connectivity that
many have deployed for years.
Equipment manufacturers are using IoT
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Fleet managers have been benefiting
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ing trucks and off-highway vehicles to
improve efficiency. Before long, most
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ing equipment is rapidly being connect
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ed in what’s often called the Industrial
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using these connections to make major
strides in efficiency, learning from plants
around the globe. Collecting operating
information brings major advances.
“We’re doing a lot in shop floor op-
erations improvement,” said Alexander
Nazarov, Engineering Functional
Richard Dunne
says of Flybrid’s
technology:
“Flywheels are an
incredibly power
dense method
of storing and
releasing energy”
(image: Flybrid).
Off-highway vehicles
and construction
equipment are
suitable for Flybrid’s
new family of
flywheel modules.
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