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[xxxxxy] 21/9/2022 11:30

Putin's 'partial mobilisation' will send tens of thousands to their deathsUkrainian forces have killed or wounded 80,000 professional Russian soldiers - what will they do with this mobilised reserve?ByMike Martin... Daily Telegraph

[loganair] 21/9/2022 10:47

Since Putin's speech this morning the rouble has strengthen over 6% against both the USD and GBP.

The MOEX Russia Index sank as much as 10% before cutting the losses to 3% at 2,150 on Wednesday, extending last session’s 9% loss as President Putin ordered the country’s first mobilization since World War II.


A call up of 100,000 is needed to indefinitely hold what the Russians already have.

300,000 is what is needed to take everything East of the Dnieper river.

[spacedust] 21/9/2022 09:04

The strong rule the weak. Yes the USatansA have been doing it for decades

[xxxxxy] 21/9/2022 07:25

Russia.. Price 0 pence.Russia has no Values. Russia has left Civilisation.Russia is Uninvestable.

[xxxxxy] 21/9/2022 07:24

The return of imperialism, with Putin's war on Ukraine, was not just a disaster for Europe but for the global, rules-based peace order, the chancellor said. He called on the UN to defend this from those who would prefer a world where the "strong rule the weak"."Do we watch helpless as some want to catapult us back into a world order where war is a common means of politics, independent nations must join their stronger neighbours or colonial masters, and prosperity and human rights are a privilege for the lucky few?" Mr Scholz asked."Or do we manage together to ensure the multipolar world of the 21st century remains a multilateral world? My answer, as a German and European, is: we must manage it."????????????Olaf Scholz holds up a copy of the UN Charter as he address the assembly in New York CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES.. Daily Telegraph

[xxxxxy] 21/9/2022 07:14

5:10amLiz Truss suggests Russia should pay reparations to UkraineLiz Truss has suggested Russia must pay reparations to Ukraine to help rebuild it when the war is over, using its oil and gas reserves to "recompense" the nation, writes Daniel Martin.... Daily Telegraph

[neutralpov] 20/9/2022 23:40

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Message me if you have any information about his/her identity.

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[17902] 20/9/2022 22:58

Legal, what does that mean if you are outside the EU. Currently being debated. It will have an interesting outcome I'm sure both at Westminsyer and Brussels.

[xxxxxy] 20/9/2022 21:39

There are still some intelligent, compassionate, caring, questioning Russians. Respect those very Brave Russians.Respect.

[xxxxxy] 20/9/2022 21:38

No! This is not normal. This can only appear to be normal in an inverted picture of the world that exists in the head of one person - or perhaps several people - holding absolute power, with all of its levers, but in isolation from civil society and the people.I want to acknowledge my guilt. My guilt before the long-suffering people of Ukraine, and before the entire global community. I'm culpable because, as a citizen of my country, I was unable to prevent this ongoing madness. I ask forgiveness, too, for the fact that I, it seems, will not be able to do anything to stop it. I say this also in the name of my compatriots, who are crushed by the fear of repressions, and from whom I receive numerous letters of support.At this moment, the leading developed countries and their governments have a responsibility for life on Earth, and for technological progress without wars. Russia, with its innumerable human losses - in the Civil War, in the madness of collectivisation and the Great Terror, in two world wars and in many lesser ones - still hasn't passed the test of shouldering its fair share of responsibility.... Full.. . Daily Telegraph

[xxxxxy] 20/9/2022 21:32

It is not internationally legal to call a Referendum in another country.Illegal Referendum will not be recognised.Further the population has been threatened and some driven out.No one is that stupid to recognise such a trumped up nonsense.Russia has left Civilisation.Russia is Uninvestable.Russia is going down the pan.

[xxxxxy] 20/9/2022 21:27

Russia.... 0 pence.Made in Russia. Loss. More Loss. And Misery.Deal with Russia. And lose your Soul.Russia has left Civilisation.Russia is Uninvestable.

[xxxxxy] 20/9/2022 21:25

7:54pmUS expects more banks will cut off Russian payment system Mir, says senior US official Steps Turkish lenders Isbank and Denizbank took to suspend the use of Russian payment system Mir make a lot of sense, said a senior US administration official on Tuesday, adding that the US expects more banks will cut off Mir over sanctions risk."The steps these banks took make a lot of sense. Cutting off Mir is one of the best ways to protect a bank from the sanctions risk that comes from doing business with Russia. We expect more banks to cut off Mir because they don't want to risk being on the wrong side of the coalition's sanctions," the official said on condition of anonymity.... Daily Telegraph

[imastu pidgitaswell] 20/9/2022 20:28

Re links - type over the 'xx' with 'TT' and it works; the ability to click on it is retained.

[careful] 20/9/2022 20:16

We hope there are international observers to any referendum.

The Crimean referendum was well covered and seemed above board, no gun held to head as some passionate posters suggest.
The crimean referendum was judged to be illegal because the regime currently running Ukraine did not call it.

If they vote not to join Russia I think Putin would have his excuse to give up and go home.
The problem would be a landslide as achieved in the original Crimean referendum of 2014.

If the result is not recognised he could fully mobilise and escalate the conflict to another level.
and could argue he had moral authority.

[masergt] 20/9/2022 18:44

Same goes for cfr.org link. Change hxxps back to https. Is Putin screwing with and censoring this site now? Or just loganair??

spacedust. Looks that way to me unless the donbas people are allowed to see the atrocities committed by this monster. Even then Russia will declare whatever result it feels like and swear it's been fair and honest.

Over by Xmas? Could be sooner if NATO intervened under international law as it did in Kosovo. "NATO intervened in Kosovo only after Serbia committed terrible atrocities against the Kosovar Albanians. The Kosovo crisis led the UN Security Council in 1999 to adopt UN Security Council Resolution 1244, which placed Kosovo under international supervision." That would be my solution under human rights legislation.

[masergt] 20/9/2022 18:29

ADVFN is forcing a change to the businessinsider link. Change hxxps back to https to read the article.

[spacedust] 20/9/2022 18:29

So donbas guaranteed to be independent. This should be over by Xmas.

[masergt] 20/9/2022 18:25

hxxps://www.businessinsider.com/crimean-referendum-results-2014-3?r=US&IR=T

[masergt] 20/9/2022 18:24

careful - 17651. "The Russians should ensure that it is well observed, above board and monitored. To be fair to them, the Crimean referendum was."

Are you for real? Putin screws around with overseas elections for fun. What do you think he's going to do with referenda in territories he is illegally occupying??

If a Russian soldier was to put a gun to your head and say 'vote for me or I'll shoot you' - which way would you vote? There will be no independent international monitoring of these illegal referenda. Russia's game - Russia's rules.

As for the 2014 Crimean referendum - Wikipedia: "The referendum was illegal under the Constitution of Ukraine. It is not recognized by most countries, mainly due to the presence of Russian forces. Thirteen members of the United Nations Security Council voted in favor of a resolution declaring the referendum invalid, but Russia vetoed it and China abstained. A United Nations General Assembly resolution was later adopted, by a vote of 100 in favor vs. 11 against with 58 abstentions, which declared the referendum invalid and affirmed Ukraine's territorial integrity. As the plebiscite was proclaimed, the Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People called for a boycott of the referendum."



hxxps://www.businessinsider.com/crimean-referendum-results-2014-3?r=US&IR=T



hxxps://www.cfr.org/interview/why-crimean-referendum-illegitimate

[loganair] 20/9/2022 17:38

The MOEX Russia Index was down nearly 9% to close at a one-month low of 2,215 on Tuesday, the sharpest decline since February, following news that Moscow is moving to annex Ukrainian territory and new measures to cover Russia’s looming budget deficit.

The breakaway Donetsk and Luhansk Republics and parts of Kherson under Russian control are set to hold referendums to become a part of Russia.

In the meantime, the Kremlin wants to collect over RUB 3 trillion to cover for its expected budget deficit, with higher taxes and duties on energy exports set to raise.

Consequently, the heavy-weighing energy stocks tanked 8% on average, with Gazprom falling 11% amid the possibility of steep taxes being charged on record-setting profits this year.

[xxxxxy] 20/9/2022 17:09

Russia has lost. Lost the Heart, Mind and Soul of the Ukraine. We have all witnessed, the world has witnessed the the Barbarity, Murder, and Torture by Russia.Russia is Untrustworthy.Russia has left Civilisation.And it won't end til Putin and KGB Thugs are handed over to the Hague Court.

[xxxxxy] 20/9/2022 17:08

Referendum under duress means nothing.All sensible people know that.Politicians won't touch Russia with a barge pole.The People have witnessed the Evil of Russia.Russia has left Civilisation.Russia is Uninvestable

[careful] 20/9/2022 16:28

all stock markets are struggling today.
The reasons we can argue about.


Interesting to see the results of an honest referebum
It will expose the bulls*t and propaganda.

xxxxxy banged on on and on about the Brexit referendum with its tiny majority.
less than 40% of eligible voters voted for it.

See the reaction to the upcoming referendum.
We shall see how loathed or loved Zelensky really is.

The Russians should ensure that it is well observed, above board and monitored.
To be fair to them, the Crimean referendum was.