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[togglebrush] 10/9/2022 11:07

Ukrainian teenage girl refugees returning to School in South London reported spending their Summer holidays in Ukraine ... source their tescher, my daughter in law who speaks Russian.
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All very odd . Make of it what you will ???

[xxxxxy] 09/9/2022 23:11

Russia. Land of War Crimes.Russia is Untrustworthy.Russia has left Civilisation.Russia is Uninvestable.This isn't over until Putin and KGB Thugs are in the Hague Court.

[xxxxxy] 09/9/2022 23:10

Russia launched revenge attacks on Ukrainian towns and cities on Friday in an apparent retaliation to Ukraine's advances in the south and east, Ukrainian officials said.Three children were among at least 10 people wounded when the centre of Kharkiv, Ukraine's second city, came under Russian rocket fire.Ukraine's presidential chief of staff Andriy Yermak said the attack was revenge for the success of Ukraine's armed forces."For every success of Ukraine's armed forces, for every victory, Russians ... answer with strikes on innocent people," Mr Yermak wrote on the Telegram messaging app..... Daily Telegraph

[spacedust] 09/9/2022 22:51

Queen Elizabeth...An end of an era. From Cradle to the end Morphing clip

hxxps://youtu.be/b9nJkUZQBGA

[careful] 09/9/2022 16:01

True, good post.

It has similarities with the American Civil War.

The Southern States wished to breakaway, with their own government and slave based economy.

In that war the role of Putin was played by Abraham Lincoln.
'No, you cannot leave America said Abe, you are part of America, and we do not give a damn what you Southerners think.' (my words not his)

There followed from 1862-65 a bloody war, which was won by the North.
Abraham Lincoln and his war created a great nation.
He is still worshipped as great leader, despite the fact that the % deaths compared with the then population caused by the war was terrible. A blood bath.

[togglebrush] 09/9/2022 14:39

RE careful

After Zelenskyy became president he began "poking the bear", Russian could not be taught in schools etc after 2014 the canal supplying water to "Crimea" historic home of the Tartars, was blocked etc.

It is rather like Ireland and south v north, where Interantional or Garrison sports are discouraged, and lorry drivers from mainland are questioned has to which school they attended to determine their religon, wrong religon means problems.

Kiev was the dominaant city in the 5th century whereas Moscow only emerged in the 10th century and it began to dominate in the 16th century

It is rather like brothers fighting each other rather than fighting together to make a greater family.

[stevenrevell] 09/9/2022 13:49

Why is this not trading today have I missed something or have I bin ripped off again

[xxxxxy] 09/9/2022 13:05

Russian economy on the Road to Ruin.Russia is Untrustworthy.Russia has left Civilisation.Russia is Uninvestable

[xxxxxy] 09/9/2022 13:04

Technological sovereignty" is just the latest word salad for Russia's impotent attempts to achieve economic autonomy. It's no small irony that the Soviet economy was more complex than its Russian successor and better suited for the task. Despite its countless flaws, it still possessed institutions capable of coordinating policy choices and directing investment. Manturov is now tasked with recreating a fraction of that capacity with the caveat that he could be replaced whenever convenient.Russia can still wage war with all of these limitations. But the inadequacies of the Russian political system and its grasp of economic policy raise a question too few are asking: If the cost of victory is the destruction of the economy, can Russia afford to win?... Moscow Times

[careful] 09/9/2022 12:24

You are getting bogged down in detail.

The issue is whether or not Russia's claim that Ukraine is and always has been a region of Russia with close historic ties.
With a 1,000 mile border with Russia, given their long and troubled past, do we accept that Ukraine trying to join American led, anti Russian, NATO, the old enemy, is a worrying development and impossible to accept?

The prospect of kicking the Russian Navy out of the Crimea is obviously too provocative to accept.

We have to imagine the reaction if Trumps taunting of Mexico, which shares a long border with the USA, led to them doing a deal with China, inward investment solving their financial problems, and stationing the Chinese Navy in the Gulf of Mexico with short range missiles on the border.

It would mean WW3, nothing less.

[geckotheglorious] 09/9/2022 11:54

Logan

Half Ukrainian on Jus Sanguinis grounds. Bloodline.
:)

[loganair] 09/9/2022 11:52

zang - Gorbachev was born in Privolnoye, Stavropol Krai, to a poor peasant family of Russian and Ukrainian heritage.

At the time, Privolnoye was divided almost evenly between ethnic Russians and ethnic Ukrainians.

Therefore Gorbachev is partly of Ukrainian heritage or to put in another way he's not wholly Russian by heritage.

[careful] 09/9/2022 11:33

I have the feeling that a deal will be done in the Ukraine over the coming weeks.

Already the EU. is in crisis about the imposition of a price cap on Russian oil.
Putin has retaliated by threatening a total ban on oil/gas to the EU.
Some EU.countries think the suffering is too high for little gain.


This war is going no where right now.
And as history teaches us, people get war weary. Outsiders become bored with the whole damn thing and move on.

The issues are clear now.
It is like the settlements of union disputes.
All the posturing and waffling statements from the leaders, Zelensky and Putin, aimed only at public opinion, hide the fact that both parties know that a compromise face saving deal is the only possible outcome.

[zangdook] 09/9/2022 10:53

Not just Khrushchev:
Gorbachev was not Ukrainian
If you're going by present location of birthplace, Chernenko was not Ukrainian.
If you're going by ethnicity, Brezhnev was not Ukrainian.

So at most one out of those could, at a stretch, be considered Ukrainian.

[bluemango] 09/9/2022 10:47

Given recent military developments in Ukraine (and evidence of growing discontent against Putin), I'm slightly surprised this isn't now trading sharply higher.

[xxxxxy] 08/9/2022 14:40

Russia is War Crimes.This isn't over until Putin and KGB Thugs are in the Hague Court.Russia is Untrustworthy.Russia has left Civilisation.Russia is Uninvestable.

[xxxxxy] 08/9/2022 14:40

The body of a British aid worker who was reported to have died while being detained by Russian-backed separatists in Ukraine shows signs of "possible unspeakable torture", Ukraine's foreign minister has said.Paul Urey, 45, died in captivity in July, according to the human rights ombudsperson for the Moscow-supported leadership in Donetsk.Daria Morozova, the ombudsperson, branded Mr Urey a "mercenary" and claimed he died in captivity of chronic illnesses and stress."From our side, he was given the necessary medical assistance despite the grave crimes he committed," she added.However, Dmytro Kuleba, Ukraine's foreign minister, said on Wednesday that Mr Urey's body had been returned "with signs of possible unspeakable torture".He wrote on Twitter: ... Daily Telegraph

[togglebrush] 08/9/2022 14:10

Khrushchev was NOT a Ukranan but had much influence in the province and later as leader of Russia extended Ukrainian borders

Khrushchev was born on 15 April 1894,in Kalinovka, a village in what is now Russia's Kursk Oblast, near the present Ukrainian border.
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He was assigned in 1921 as assistant director for political affairs for the Rutchenkovo mine in the Donbass region, where he had previously worked
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Supervised building The Moscow Metro in 1930's
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Late 1937, Stalin appointed Khrushchev as head of the Communist Party in Ukraine, and Khrushchev duly left Moscow for Kiev
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Jn WW2 served on many fronts incl Khariv and Stalingrad. Khrushchev returned to his Ukraine in late 1943 to find devastation and rebuilt Ukraine after the war.
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From mid-December 1949, Khrushchev again served as head of the Party in Moscow city
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!956 to 1964 leader of Soviet union died 1971

'Extracts from Wikipedia

[loganair] 08/9/2022 11:10

Almost every thing the mms do is to either pull in the private retail investor or get him to sell in order for the ruling bankers to take their money.

[arkouda] 08/9/2022 10:31

Any thoughts on why the MMs are continuing to attract sellers, filling a big order or preparing for a moon shot?

[xxxxxy] 08/9/2022 07:32

Russia is War Crimes.This isn't over until Putin and KGB Thugs are in the Hague Court.Russia is Untrustworthy.Russia has left Civilisation.Russia is Uninvestable.