Nanoco Share Discussion Threads

[notimpressed] 10/2/2018 14:31

When will we find out the terms of the deal.
American companies are not known for being charitable.
Any investment will come at a cost yet to be disclosed.

[wjs81] 10/2/2018 12:13

God forbid Crunch would turn up and be patronising.

Any thoughts Crunch on an American company choosing to link up with Nanoco? This diversification must surely give Nano even more of a competitive edge over QMC....

[nowenterprise] 10/2/2018 00:20

InVisage also do IoT connectivity, Lidar etc.

IOT
QuantumFilm image sensors for authentication, autonomy, and augmented or virtual reality

Smart devices are transforming our lives. They help us drive safely, make stories more interactive, give us a hint when we need one, and allow us to customize our environments. Optimized for the near-infrared spectrum in the Spark™ product line, QuantumFilm enables IoT devices to operate more accurately in all conditions with less system power.
Applications for near-infrared QuantumFilm cameras include:

Authentication: iris and face recognition
Autonomy: robotics and collision avoidance
Augmented and Virtual Reality: 3-D mapping and gesture, eye and head tracking

[ih_169538] 10/2/2018 00:17

Instead of guessing which is what Nanoco likes its investors to do ,here is some info on nanoparticles and optoelectronics

hxxps://www.sigmaaldrich.com/technical-documents/articles/material-matters/precise-nanoparticles.html

[nowenterprise] 10/2/2018 00:10

howl, reported previously where? I've gone back several pages of this forum and haven't yet seen anything about InVisage having their own production. Please elaborate?

[howl01] 09/2/2018 23:14

Invisage had their own production as reported previously

[howl01] 09/2/2018 23:13

I'm taking a 'device ' as meaning a film, a glass, a lens, on-chip, near-chip, tube, filter, ink etc as opposed to some end-consumer product.

[nowenterprise] 09/2/2018 23:08

As I just posted on LSE forum:

I still don't see why InVisage's Quantum Film (tm) (now owned by Apple) would not be a likely candidate, and I can easily imagine this kind of market requiring mass-production of specialised nano-particles.

"Until now, customers have paid a price in image quality for the convenience of a camera in our pockets, but InVisage has made a step change in image sensor technology that will illuminate your photographs like never before".

"QuantumFilm is a photosensitive layer that relies on InVisage£s newly invented class of materials to absorb light; specifically, the new material is made up of quantum dots, nanoparticles that can be dispersed to form a grid once they are synthesized. Just like paint, this dispersion of solid materials can be coated onto a substrate and allowed to dry".

[howl01] 09/2/2018 22:26

Taking the RNS at face value it sounds to me like a situation in which the deal is to produce a customer-developed nano particle using Nanoco's processes. The applicatiin will be related to display, lighting or possibly solar - forget talk of quantum computing and orher bizarre claims. Best fit LARGE US company widely involved in this area is Applied Materials. They are involved directly and indirectly in many applications exploiting quantum dots. Interstingly they are one of the major stakeholders in Nanosys - which some may say would suggest the hypothesis is wrong, however maybe the reason for the tie up is Nanoco's unique and superior SCALABLE seeding process (their real differentiator).

[nowenterprise] 09/2/2018 19:52

The RNS talks about mass production, hence the likelihood of a quantum computing research project being the recipient seems very unlikely to me. I cannot see how there could be any demand for mass production of any quantum computing devices at this stage of development.

RNS quote: "Nanoco will scale-up and mass produce novel nano-particles for advanced electronic devices".

[boris cobaka] 09/2/2018 17:52

'nano particles' i believe is the key word.
Was there any mention of the 'Q' term?

[bagpuss67] 09/2/2018 17:21

left field...

what about Amazon....tried QD before....

[enteleon] 09/2/2018 16:57

Kuss1/Mapocho- Good to see you back !

Posts on this board have, on the whole been extremely helpful and informative. Thanks to everybody who has dug deep to provide links.

David Blain, Nano's Chief Financial Officer, is very straight-laced and law abiding. It is my supposition that he fixed the deal with Lombard/Odier for the placing. He is not given to Edelman fantasies and snake-oil. I believe he will do his utmost to protect the SP, to maintain goodwill with LOAM and other major institutions. This is just my opinion.

Bagpuss- I hold a degree in physics as well as two other degrees in the Natural Sciences and try to keep abreast of the developments in physics and Quantum Computing. I say this only to intimate that my opinion is semi-qualified. The expectations for Q. computing are very high. The potential is enormous, but the challenges are great. The fundamental idea is to create what is known as a Quantum Superposition, which would allow the computer to follow an immense array of possible computing routes. As I understand it, there are two major challenges:
1) Generating a "coherence" wherein the Superposition can be maintained. This demands very high insulation from outside influences which would destabilize (or decohere) this very fragile superposition.
2) Because the computer would explore all Quantum routes, the end results would have built-in uncertainty and determining the "right answer" becomes problematic.

The former stipulation, if achievable, would provide an extremely sensitive security fortress, thus hacking becomes virtually impossible. This feature will become more and more important for Governments/National Defence protocols/Financial institutions.

Hopes are high, but progress is relatively slow even though there is vast interest and huge money going into Quantum Computing projects. I'm afraid I do not know how QDs might fit in here.

My hope, therefore, is that the new Nano contract is aligned towards more quick-to-be-developed devices. I fear that if it's either Quantum Computing or Pharmaceutical (the latter requires endless safety protocols insisted upon by the Federal Drug Administration), we will be waiting a very long time.

[bagpuss67] 09/2/2018 16:36

"Intel has established a supply of high quality material which includes highly purified Si-28 for long coherence times. We also have created a multi-mask integration scheme which involves custom designed masks that allow fabrication of production quality QUANTUM DOTS and spin qubits alongside reference transistors"

[notimpressed] 09/2/2018 16:32

bagpuss no, but they may be used as micro communication channels in place
of copper

[bagpuss67] 09/2/2018 15:33

does anybody on here have enough insight to know whether quantum dots for quantum computing is a conceivable option for the recent rns or not..

[jfacwc] 09/2/2018 15:17

I make it an increase of just under 3 million. Not too shabby.

[notimpressed] 09/2/2018 14:45

LO upped their holding marginally yesterday

[boris cobaka] 09/2/2018 14:44

au - trt is one typo away from being correct...

Best to ignore.

[aimingupward2] 09/2/2018 14:37

trt, you say that "revenues will exceed £100m if you do the maths".

How do you do any sort of calculation? Could you explain please. There's an absence of any figures from NANO, so what assumptions are you making?

[bagpuss67] 09/2/2018 14:10

intel...

"The 300mm fabrication process is the backbone for advanced technology nodes in the semiconductor industry. State of the art transistors most complex integration schemes are only possible using the unique patterning capabilities, high quality material deposition, and process control that are maintained at these facilities. Intel is leveraging its 300mm fabrication expertise to create spin qubit circuits for quantum computing applications. This talk will focus on three aspects: materials, integration, and characterization. Intel has established a supply of high quality material which includes highly purified Si-28 for long coherence times. We also have created a multi-mask integration scheme which involves custom designed masks that allow fabrication of production quality QUANTUM DOTS and spin qubits alongside reference transistors. We will be discussing some of the preliminary results from the 300 mm fab and lab line such as structures/features variation which is imperative for qubit devices."

[jfacwc] 09/2/2018 14:00

Notimp, it makes sense. Sphere25 = Slippy here 25p.nothing changes ...

[hannath] 09/2/2018 13:48

It would appear that this time it is a fact (orders with funding/milestone payments)and not the usual dream. Existing cash and the placing proceeds from November should see them through 2018, after that we will see.
I would imagine we will now stay in the new trading range 30-40p until the interims in April so will be holding until then and hoping for more detail.
First dip back this morning attracted buyers, and after yesterdays news there may be investors looking to buy dips. We will see !

[notimpressed] 09/2/2018 13:45

slippy has changed his name to Sphere25

[bagpuss67] 09/2/2018 13:43

"Under The Hood Of Quantum Systems

IBM and Rigetti both introduced capable general-purpose cloud-based quantum computers for public and limited access use (20- and 19-qubit systems, respectively), each with a full-stack software development toolkit (devkit). NTT introduced its cloud-based quantum dot and photonics-based architecture, with its full-stack devkit. Microsoft and Google introduced their general-purpose quantum computing R&D programs along with full-stack devkits and simulators but have not yet publicly demonstrated hardware. Intel is showing prototype chips, but has not demonstrated them yet. IonQ, Quantum Circuits, and RIKEN are investing in hardware development but have not shown their work yet. And yet, only two companies are selling dedicated systems for customer on premise use that can arguably be called quantum computers: D-Wave’s quantum annealing architecture and Atos’s dedicated quantum simulator."