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[geckotheglorious] 10/12/2020 09:40

Poikka
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"Britain is set to sign a £20bn post-Brexit trade deal with Canada that will roll over terms from an existing agreement with the EU"


Didn't Remoaners say UK would NOT be able to roll over Third party - EU trade deals on same terms????

Principle of Continuity.

There was one notable lawyer on twitter around June 2016 who was adamant that UK would not be able to achieve this at all.

[alex1621] 10/12/2020 09:40

Think about the small minded mentality of Nats and Brexiteers. Two peas in a pod. The irony is that you spend half your life slagging off people who are just as dimwitted as you. There have been no benefits of leaving the EU ... a trashed currency, lower levels of inward investment, and in a no deal scenario capital flight and decimation for a number of industries. Same small minded flag waving exceptionalism at work with both Nats and Brexiteers. If you were born north of the border you'd be one.

[grahamite2] 10/12/2020 09:36

Oh good, more Project Fear, just what we all wanted!

[cheshire pete] 10/12/2020 09:32

LLOY down >3%, starting to price in no deal.

[utrickytrees] 10/12/2020 09:17

Scruff, anywhere North of Clachan bridge used to be a bit problematic getting supplies to. In the good old days the little post office would sell everything you needed. Things have improved somewhat in recent years with more supermarkets in the larger towns. Much of the hysteria and lack of support for Brexit is panic driven with many fearing continuity of supply of heavy & square sausage but they have had their ears bent by the doom mongers. Look at Iceland & Azerbaijan both are more remote than Scotland & neither are in the EU.

[cheshire pete] 10/12/2020 09:15

Well done Liz Truss. Keep them coming. It will soon be over, free at last.

[poikka] 10/12/2020 09:11

"Why wait for over 4 years"

Frustrating for those who could see the EU's game, or should I say EU politicians' game, but if the government didn't try for a trade deal, they'd be criticised by the sad excuse for an opposition and their media cronies, which wouldn't do the Tories' election chances much good.

Aside from that, it gives the UK time to conclude trade agreements elsewhere.

[grahamite2] 10/12/2020 09:07

careful10 Dec '20 - 08:56 - 323570 of 323570

4 years and still arguing about the same issues, pathetic.

Nice to see we have some common ground!

It's quite simple, really. We have two groups with fundamentally different principles and standpoints that simply cannot be squared. When you get that it's time for a parting of the ways.

[diku] 10/12/2020 09:04

Exactly...if there was going to be a No Deal why wait for over 4 years...no wonder the FTSE and some of the household name shares have under performed big time compared to other western indexes..

[poikka] 10/12/2020 09:04

"Brexit will see a boost for Cheddar over Brie, the Tesco boss has said as the French cheese price could rise by 40 per cent in a no-deal."

Don't get it, Mr Tesco, shouldn't you be comparing French brie with Somerset Brie? Credibility issue, or maybe I missed something.

A small benefit to the UK, and the environment will be that yoghurt will no longer be transported to the continent for packaging and then shipped back again to our shops. What craziness was that.

So, yes, many opportunities for increased production in the UK.

[careful] 10/12/2020 09:03

Too much talk of trade.
financial services are just as important.

A two way trade and services war could develop, similar to the American 'buy American First' Policy.

It will take years for this to become clear.

At the end of it all there will be more general elections, (here and all over the EU).
The public a fickle and soon change their minds, particularly if many face hardship.
Democracy has always been messy, to work well it needs an intelligent electorate.

Fat chance.

[careful] 10/12/2020 08:56

Liam Fox and Dominic Raab Talking today.
It sounds to me as though they are preparing everyone for a no deal announcement.

Unless it is more last minute bluffing.
4 years and still arguing about the same issues, pathetic.

[xxxxxy] 10/12/2020 08:49

FedupsouthernerPosted December 10, 2020 at 6:31 am | PermalinkIt's simple. They want us to fail and come back begging. We have never begged before so don't start now. No other country has had to give up their sovereignty so why us? Stand fast Boris and get us out. The world will see what the EU is truly like if they make life difficult for us. We already know both from past experience and the present.

[heialex1] 10/12/2020 08:48

Correct.But watching this is fascinating... it's like watching a cult that has been convinced to blow itself up, cheering as the explosion nears... it would be funny for people outside the cult if it weren't for the fact that they will be enveloped by the same explosion.And to stretch the metaphor to breaking point, the EU might catch a bit of shrapnel, but can then start picking up the pieces that we've given up.Apparently that's what patriotism looks like.

[stansmith3] 10/12/2020 08:45

alexspot on

[xxxxxy] 10/12/2020 08:45

Pitcain Islands...Q&A | Comprehensive and Progressive Trans Pacific PartnershipWhat is it? The CPTPP is a trade agreement involving 11 Pacific Rim countries, broadly similar to the Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Partnership being negotiated between the United States and European UnionWho is involved? The agreement is an expansion of a free trade deal already in force between Brunei, Chile, New Zealand and Singapore. Since 2008 Australia, Canada, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, Peru and Vietnam also signed up. The United States joined in 2015, but withdrew under President Donald Trump.The CPTPP in its original form could originally be understood as a US-sponsored bid to counterbalance China's economic dominance in the Pacific region. The current CPTPP is the world's third-largest free trade area.What does it cover? The TPP requires signatories to significantly lower trade barriers; refrain from over-fishing; meet environmental protection standards; combat human trafficking; enforce anti-corruption laws; meet minimum international labour standards.A large tranche of regulations favoured by the US were removed when President Trump pulled out of the TPP.When does it come into force? Following US withdrawal, the 11 TPP nations, led by New Zealand and Japan, forged ahead with the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP). It was signed on 8 March 2018 and has been ratified by all signatories but Chile.Will the UK join the CPTPP? It's not impossible. The government has held exploratory talks with several members over post-Brexit membership and the UK's Pitcairn Islands territory falls within the treaty's geographic catchment area.... Daily Telegraph

[diku] 10/12/2020 08:44

Farage is very quiet on the sidelines...not heard much from him lately...

[utrickytrees] 10/12/2020 08:38

Alps is his girlfriend, they're both blokes but they have very defined gender specific roles, one of Alps is to source lube in 25 gallon drums off the internet twice a week.

[mikemichael2] 10/12/2020 08:32

ALP IS MINERVE ??