Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[grahamite2] 03/8/2019 11:03

I couldn't even be bothered to comment on it, Poikka.

I really can't make careful out. If it's trolling, it's brilliant. If it's sincere...good grief. But no nuttier than a lot of remoaners such as the Archbishop of Canterbury.

[gaffer73] 03/8/2019 10:57

What will they do with the next 20b though? All shareholders will benefit imo

[keyno] 03/8/2019 10:53

£20b in PPI claims. Commission and bonuses presumably paid on top of that on all the dodgy deals (which I realize weren't made up of the whole 20 billion). All paid for by us and Lloyds workers. No wonder AHO can afford to sell his shares at c.52p. It makes not a jot of difference to him. The ones who feel the pain are shareholders who have bought their slice and employees who have worked hard over the years for no doubt lower pay than they had hoped for.

[grahamite2] 03/8/2019 10:36

Thanks excel, that answers my question which really was whether you meant the sort of bond that's a marketable security or one that's not. What you're talking about is really a fixed term fixed rate deposit account, which makes a lot of sense although I shouldn't go for too long a term myself.

Marketable bonds, whether gilts or corporate bonds, are in theory immensely risky while interest rates are so low - there have been lurid articles about this for years now. But circumstances will need to change dramatically for this risk to turn from theoretical to real and I haven't liquidated my corporate bond funds. Anyway the risk can be managed, with Minerve's idea of sticking to short maturity instruments being a perfectly sound option.

[minerve 2] 03/8/2019 10:14

Any corrections are coming because of Trump or Brexit. And we know which bunch of morons instigated those don’t we.

[minerve 2] 03/8/2019 10:05

Anyone who thinks the US is a good example of how a country should be or that we should be comfortable with the fact it is the so-called leader of the free-world should think again. Truth is the country is a huge FAIL.

The incident is the 246th mass shooting in the US this year, according to US tracking website Gun Violence Archive.

246th!

And that buffoon Trumpty Dumpty thinks he is in the position to lambaste our knife crime. He needs a baseball bat planted squarely on that fat mouth of his.

[warranty] 03/8/2019 09:48

Can see another capitulation in the market coming down the road. FTSE pushing all time highs with all the uncertainty around, debt levels higher than 200i and so many quality companies like LLoy at seemingly oversold levels. Keeping some cash aside for another crash is wisest I believe.

[maxk] 03/8/2019 09:47

Steve Baker set to replace Jacob Rees-Mogg as chairman of ERG






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2 AUGUST 2019 • 6:33PM




Steve Baker who refused to accept a job in the Brexit department is set to be made chairman of the hardline European Research Group next month.

Mr Baker - who held the job before Mr Rees-Mogg - said that he will seek to replace him next month when MPs return to Parliament after their summer break.

Mr Baker's likely election to the role could be a headache for Boris Johnson if he seeks to bring back Theresa May's withdrawal agreement before Oct 31.

Mr Rees-Mogg insisted that there was "no conflict of interest" in him staying on as ERG chairman for a few weeks because the policies of the ERG and Government were aligned.

Mr Johnson has repeatedly stressed that he wants the European Union to agree...




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[action] 03/8/2019 09:27

Pls look in to absolutes return bondFrom templeton and other bonf provider.

[xxxxxy] 03/8/2019 09:19

Q: When is it possible to break the rules of an EU Treaty?
A: When the EU says so
Bulgarian chosen as EU candidate for IMF Chief, despite failing to get enough votes

[essentialinvestor] 02/8/2019 23:50

Come on guys, are people really suggesting the Lloyds CEO who for years
has earned a lottery win type salary, could not have afforded to retain all those shares?, Seriously?.

Now that being said it's routine for various BOD members to sell the amount
that covers tax obligations.


Mentioned a few weeks back that I thought Lloyds would be available under 50
before 31 October, almost there and more quickly than expected.
Had in mind late August/September time.

[123trev] 02/8/2019 23:02

Lol and the main man wants to buy a better house!

[cheshire pete] 02/8/2019 23:01

excell1: I have money with Slater Growth Fund. Did some research into them before investing but picked up on them from Sat. Tel. 21st Oct. '17 'Fund of the week' if still accessible (kept it for my file). Liked the approach to stock picking and 'sieves' used. Very selective, but once chosen stocks are held for a long time to realise gains. Certainly beats inflation, but maybe not your cup of tea in terms of risk.

[excell1] 02/8/2019 22:44

Thanks guys,food for thought there.
Generally took all my high risk taking years ago so do not wish to go down that route now.I guess looking for something to beat inflation.
Will look at all your options and let you know how I do (if interested).
Graham was looking at bank bonds paying about 2.5%.Not exiting I know but if interest rates are going to drop then maybe take some of that now.Minerve will definitely look at that,thanks.Cheshire I have had a quick look at corporate bonds and some pay extremely good rates of interest but not sure just how high risk they are.Used to think Woodford was the answer (not invested) but look how that turned out.
Anyway thanks again,greatly appreciated.

[cheshire pete] 02/8/2019 22:17

excell1, as any of the asset management companies that are any good would try to establish, it depends on your 'appetite for risk' where the most appropriate home would be. Some corporate bonds give good returns for relatively low risk.

[k38] 02/8/2019 22:11

39% + 10% = 49%But.. a victory it's a victory.

[sentimentrules] 02/8/2019 22:04

What's the point in low return investments? Or perceived cheap uk stocks in this climate? Or Pay a fund manager and still some risk regardless. Might as well be in the bank.

U need at least 5% to be bothered putting money into something outside of a safe 1.5-2%.

Etfs metals bud. Split the cash. Bank weighted -some to metals

Better return with the majority even locked up safely

[minerve 2] 02/8/2019 21:59

excell1

Judging by what I have seen from the BofE and Carney I expect interest rates in the UK to go lower short-term, maybe even some QE thrown in. It all depends on No Deal but I don't see interest rate hikes anytime in the next 12 months. I don't expect interest rates to be increased as a means to increase interest in the £ to curb inflation that may be caused by the £ falling further. I would therefore just sit some in short-term gilts for 12 months. A fund I use, which I have great respect for is:

PYRFORD GLOBAL TOTAL RETURN

It is made up of short term gilts with very low, conservative equity exposure. This fund has managed very well through the .com boom/bust and the 2008/2009 financial crisis. Tony Cousins runs this multi-£bn fund with top priority of capital preservation. Its charges are low and I sit money there sometimes for 12 months or so.

Personally I would stay clear of peer to peer and premium bonds, risk vs yields are not nicely balanced in either.

Why not take this opportunity to buy into cheap UK domestic stocks?

Check the balance sheets, some are priced for end-of-the-world which is simply not true. I say that even as a Remainer.

[cheshire pete] 02/8/2019 21:58

d) then consider options if there is a market correction.

In a similar situation excell1, selling properties as they become vacant then drip feeding funds (for £ cost averaging) into an Asset Management Co.(c30%), another managed growth fund (c30%), then remainder as cash and to fund own stocks and shares ISAs, which includes a LLOY holding for the juicy divis going forward and compounding up and maybe one day perhaps capital growth lol.

[grahamite2] 02/8/2019 21:38

excell - what do you mean by bonds (option a)? That can mean various things.